Outer tire wear after track day

Bshields22 · 03-21-2016, 08:15 PM

Hey guys,

Do you guys find that after some hard track days you find your outer tire tread wears a little bit? What do you consider normal?

Currently use Bridgestone Potenza S-04 Pole Position's on Sport Packaging rims

POS VETT · 03-21-2016, 08:25 PM

Sounds normal. Your alignment specs are not optimized for track duty.

kenchan · 03-21-2016, 08:38 PM

Give it a tad more neg camber

dP3NGU1N · 03-21-2016, 08:42 PM

Or more air in your tires if you're properly cambered.

jliu · 03-21-2016, 09:22 PM

My 14 with Swift springs also has outer tire wear on both the fronts and the rears.

I had an alignment done and below are my specs.

Front R L

Camber -1.55 -1.60
Caster 5.7 5.00
Toe -1/32" 1/16"

Rear

Camber -2.20 -2.50
Toe 1/16" 1/8"

BuckeyeZ · 03-21-2016, 09:25 PM

I always had problems with outer tire wear on the front until I got camber arms. With about -1.8* problem solved and handling greatly improved!

Brendan · 03-21-2016, 10:56 PM

That's normal for stock 370Z. These cars need more front camber to make the tires wear evenly when driven in high performance conditions.

Wonka2581 · 03-21-2016, 11:15 PM

I'm at

F
Camber -2.00
Caster +8
Toe 0.00

R

Camber 2-25
Toe 1/16

Love my set up..

Bshields22 · 03-23-2016, 06:15 PM

Great info! Thanks guys!

Bshields22 · 03-24-2016, 07:41 PM

one more follow up question that I thought about. It's obvious when you need new tires based on normal tread wear in the center part of the tires, when does the outside get be be a little "iffy"? The tread thickness is a fraction of the depth of the normal tread on the outer part of the tire, even as brand new tires.

Rusty · 03-24-2016, 10:13 PM

Do you have the stock upper control arms?

Bshields22 · 03-25-2016, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty

Do you have the stock upper control arms?

I have stock sport package suspension if that helps answer your question.

osbornsm · 03-25-2016, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bshields22

I have stock sport package suspension if that helps answer your question.

To summarize the nonsense above...

You cannot get the tires to wear evenly with OEM suspension. No matter how much tire pressure you have, (ive tried 50 PSI hot)
The only remedy for chewing the outside of your tires is to get more camber, or turn slower .
That's why i bought SPL camber arms.

Rusty · 03-25-2016, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by osbornsm

To summarize the nonsense above...

You cannot get the tires to wear evenly with OEM suspension. No matter how much tire pressure you have, (ive tried 50 PSI hot)
The only remedy for chewing the outside of your tires is to get more camber, or turn slower .
That's why i bought SPL camber arms.

That's why I asked the question if he had the stock arms. If we know what he has. Better the answers.

birdman71 · 03-25-2016, 04:49 PM

I went with the SPC camber arms but SPL and/or SPC will do just fine for you to be able to adjust the camber farther than about -1.5

03-21-2016, 08:15 PM	#1 (permalink)
Bshields22 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Anaheim, CA Posts: 422 Drives: 2012 Black 370Z-R Rep Power: 698	Outer tire wear after track day Hey guys, Do you guys find that after some hard track days you find your outer tire tread wears a little bit? What do you consider normal? Currently use Bridgestone Potenza S-04 Pole Position's on Sport Packaging rims __________________ 308 rwhp \| 252 rwtq \| Fast Intentions CBE 18" Res \| Stillen Gen 3 CAI \| EcuTek Tune \| Stoptech Slotted Rotors and Sport Pads \| KW V3 Coilovers \| SPL Upper Control Arms & Lower Rear Arms \| Seibon CF TS Hood \| Vossen CVT \| SPC Toe bolts

03-21-2016, 08:25 PM	#2 (permalink)
POS VETT Track Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Columbus OH Posts: 612 Drives: Z34\|C4LT4\|C6Z06\|V25 Rep Power: 3366	Sounds normal. Your alignment specs are not optimized for track duty. Brendan likes this.

03-21-2016, 08:42 PM	#4 (permalink)
dP3NGU1N A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Irvine Posts: 1,682 Drives: 13 PW sport 6mt Rep Power: 18	Or more air in your tires if you're properly cambered. __________________ 35% Hooper Optik \| Takeda Attack CAI \| F.I. HFC \| Hotchkis Sway Bar \| Stillen 24row \| OS Giken Super Lock LSD \| TK Shift Knob \| EVO-R Carbon Diffuser

03-21-2016, 09:25 PM	#6 (permalink)
BuckeyeZ Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Music City Posts: 291 Drives: 370Z BMW M4 Rep Power: 66	I always had problems with outer tire wear on the front until I got camber arms. With about -1.8* problem solved and handling greatly improved! __________________ Stillen \| EVO-R \| HPS \| K&N \| Hotchkis \| Modshack Oil Cooler \| SPL

03-21-2016, 10:56 PM	#7 (permalink)
Brendan Track Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Colorado Posts: 642 Drives: Poor man's Porsche Rep Power: 542	That's normal for stock 370Z. These cars need more front camber to make the tires wear evenly when driven in high performance conditions. Last edited by Brendan; 03-21-2016 at 11:03 PM.

03-21-2016, 08:38 PM	#3 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	Give it a tad more neg camber

03-21-2016, 09:22 PM	#5 (permalink)
jliu Base Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: N. CA Posts: 107 Drives: 2014 370z Touring Rep Power: 9	My 14 with Swift springs also has outer tire wear on both the fronts and the rears. I had an alignment done and below are my specs. Front R L Camber -1.55 -1.60 Caster 5.7 5.00 Toe -1/32" 1/16" Rear Camber -2.20 -2.50 Toe 1/16" 1/8"

03-21-2016, 11:15 PM	#8 (permalink)
Wonka2581 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 3,083 Drives: MY WIFE CRAZY.... Rep Power: 2612	I'm at F Camber -2.00 Caster +8 Toe 0.00 R Camber 2-25 Toe 1/16 Love my set up.. __________________ "I have nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears and sweat""Winston Churchill"

03-23-2016, 06:15 PM	#9 (permalink)
Bshields22 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Anaheim, CA Posts: 422 Drives: 2012 Black 370Z-R Rep Power: 698	Great info! Thanks guys! __________________ 308 rwhp \| 252 rwtq \| Fast Intentions CBE 18" Res \| Stillen Gen 3 CAI \| EcuTek Tune \| Stoptech Slotted Rotors and Sport Pads \| KW V3 Coilovers \| SPL Upper Control Arms & Lower Rear Arms \| Seibon CF TS Hood \| Vossen CVT \| SPC Toe bolts

03-24-2016, 07:41 PM	#10 (permalink)
Bshields22 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Anaheim, CA Posts: 422 Drives: 2012 Black 370Z-R Rep Power: 698	one more follow up question that I thought about. It's obvious when you need new tires based on normal tread wear in the center part of the tires, when does the outside get be be a little "iffy"? The tread thickness is a fraction of the depth of the normal tread on the outer part of the tire, even as brand new tires. __________________ 308 rwhp \| 252 rwtq \| Fast Intentions CBE 18" Res \| Stillen Gen 3 CAI \| EcuTek Tune \| Stoptech Slotted Rotors and Sport Pads \| KW V3 Coilovers \| SPL Upper Control Arms & Lower Rear Arms \| Seibon CF TS Hood \| Vossen CVT \| SPC Toe bolts

03-24-2016, 10:13 PM	#11 (permalink)
Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 68 Posts: 35,217 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684438	Do you have the stock upper control arms? __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

03-25-2016, 04:49 PM	#15 (permalink)
birdman71 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,579 Drives: People Crazy! Rep Power: 40	I went with the SPC camber arms but SPL and/or SPC will do just fine for you to be able to adjust the camber farther than about -1.5 __________________ *Birdman's Build:* Powerhouse Amuse/ Nismo/ Eibach/ ACT/ Tommy Kaira/ Avant Garde/ Fast Intentions/ Project Kics/ Fly 1 Motorsports/ EVO-R/ Z1 Motorsports/ Weber Sports/ Zoom/ Zele Japan

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