caddy ats?

370zproject · 10-19-2012, 02:02 AM

how would the ATS-V caddy stack up against the z? or even the frs? im to lazy to surf XD

Lug · 10-19-2012, 02:09 AM

over 3300 lbs @ 200 hp? Physics say no way Jose'.

370Z Purist · 10-19-2012, 02:34 AM

Correction, physics say SLOW.

shadoquad · 10-19-2012, 09:23 AM

It's competing with the base BMW 328i.

It's not "fast".

There will be an ATS-V

370zproject · 10-19-2012, 12:10 PM

ok maybe it was the V model XD

nuTinmuch · 10-19-2012, 12:23 PM

The ATS is actually really, really nice. It's not a sports car though.

The V will probably be a monster.

UNKNOWN_370 · 10-19-2012, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadoquad

It's competing with the base BMW 328i.

It's not "fast".

There will be an ATS-V

This... here's a vid so guys on here can see how much the bimmer compares...

2013 Cadillac ATS 2.0T vs. 2013 BMW 328i - Comparison Test - CAR and DRIVER - YouTube

DCNISMO · 10-19-2012, 06:15 PM

There is no ATS-V yet. I have looked at the ATS for a friend and it was a nice car. You can get the RWD 2 liter turbo with 6 speed and magnetic ride along with navigation for about 46k. It's about 3500 pounds so it's not slow, but not fast either. It's a sports sedan not a sports car. For tht same price you can find a used CTS V now. Most of them hardly driven by rich old farts or ladies that putted around in them.

LakeShow · 10-19-2012, 07:06 PM

Cadillac's are way overpriced. Would rather have the German equivalent of anything they offer.

bigsix · 10-19-2012, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LakeShow

Cadillac's are way overpriced. Would rather have the German equivalent of anything they offer.

Cadillac sedans seem to demand the same prices as BMW or Mercedes. It'd be hard to justify buying American over German, for sure. I've thought it could be cool to buy a used (2004+) CTS-V sedan for a fun daily driver where nobody knows the kind of performance the car is capable of...

On a side note ***

My Mom has test-driven a 3-series and a C-class 4-door. I'd like her to try an ATS, too. I'm curious to see how close the ATS can compete w/ the 328i and C300 sedans . ? . ? . ? .

bigsix · 10-21-2012, 12:27 PM

We test-drove the ATS 3.6 allwheeldrive yesterday:

It had a smoother ride than the 328i, but much less refined than the C300's. The engine was rated @ 321 hp, but the car felt 'weighed down' by the all wheel drive system- my Mom's 290 hp Maxima feels faster (VQ35DE). Very nice interior w/ a futuristic look, but the seats were too hard & the side bolsters didn't hug me ( designed for a larger/fat person ?)
The car did have great balance in tight corners w/ good grip. Good neutral handling w/ little understeer.
The car was an Automatic tranny: decently smooth shifts, but a little slow.

***Overall, much less refined than the Mercedes C-class in all aspects, but nice handling balance that could be compared to a 3-series.

Shamu · 10-22-2012, 10:47 PM

Sweet car! Finally a caddy I could live with!

370zproject · 10-22-2012, 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigsix

We test-drove the ATS 3.6 allwheeldrive yesterday:

It had a smoother ride than the 328i, but much less refined than the C300's. The engine was rated @ 321 hp, but the car felt 'weighed down' by the all wheel drive system- my Mom's 290 hp Maxima feels faster (VQ35DE). Very nice interior w/ a futuristic look, but the seats were too hard & the side bolsters didn't hug me ( designed for a larger/fat person ?)
The car did have great balance in tight corners w/ good grip. Good neutral handling w/ little understeer.
The car was an Automatic tranny: decently smooth shifts, but a little slow.

***Overall, much less refined than the Mercedes C-class in all aspects, but nice handling balance that could be compared to a 3-series.

bigsix · 10-23-2012, 05:46 PM

370zproject,

The ATS definitely competes w/ other small sports sedans rather than sports cars ( 370z/ FR-S/ Genesis).

It's quite impressive that GM builds a car like this, now. Both the drive-train (engine + transmission) and ride quality is lacking in refinement, but would be fun to drive because of its handling and good looks (inside & out). . .

10-19-2012, 02:02 AM	#1 (permalink)
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10-19-2012, 02:09 AM	#2 (permalink)
Lug A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 1,926 Drives: 2006 350Z Rep Power: 20	over 3300 lbs @ 200 hp? Physics say no way Jose'. __________________ keep Chubbs in your pocket - Chubbs

10-19-2012, 02:34 AM	#3 (permalink)
370Z Purist A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Zion, Illinois Posts: 1,873 Drives: '09 370Z-T BS M6 Rep Power: 19	Correction, physics say SLOW. __________________ -Phil "Since one of my brake light bulbs just went out, the forum told me that my piston rings are about to blow."

10-19-2012, 12:10 PM	#5 (permalink)
370zproject A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Memphis Age: 35 Posts: 16,104 Drives: 09 A/T 370z blue Rep Power: 53	ok maybe it was the V model XD __________________ Brake Upgrade Package ate blue, hawk hp ceramic pads, and slotted rotors

10-19-2012, 12:23 PM	#6 (permalink)
nuTinmuch A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,092 Drives: PG 7AT 370Z Rep Power: 18	The ATS is actually really, really nice. It's not a sports car though. The V will probably be a monster. m4a1mustang likes this. __________________ nuTinmuch! -- Platinum Graphite 370Z -- Check out my Gallery thread here!

10-19-2012, 09:23 AM	#4 (permalink)
shadoquad A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: . Posts: 42,608 Drives: . Rep Power: 3886	It's competing with the base BMW 328i. It's not "fast". There will be an ATS-V

10-19-2012, 06:15 PM	#8 (permalink)
DCNISMO Track Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: washington dc Posts: 995 Drives: Nismo Z Rep Power: 179	There is no ATS-V yet. I have looked at the ATS for a friend and it was a nice car. You can get the RWD 2 liter turbo with 6 speed and magnetic ride along with navigation for about 46k. It's about 3500 pounds so it's not slow, but not fast either. It's a sports sedan not a sports car. For tht same price you can find a used CTS V now. Most of them hardly driven by rich old farts or ladies that putted around in them.

10-19-2012, 07:06 PM	#9 (permalink)
LakeShow A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: L.I., NY Posts: 5,307 Drives: Everything Rep Power: 26	Cadillac's are way overpriced. Would rather have the German equivalent of anything they offer. __________________ \|2013 Audi S4\|Ibis White/Black\|S-Tronic P+\| \|2013 370z\|PearlWhite/Persimmon\|Touring/Sport/Nav\|F.I. CBE 18" CF\| \|Sold\|2011 370z\|Gun Metallic\|Touring/Sport/Nav\|

10-21-2012, 12:27 PM	#11 (permalink)
bigsix A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Thailand Posts: 2,227 Drives: Honda City/Mazda 2 Rep Power: 19	We test-drove the ATS 3.6 allwheeldrive yesterday: It had a smoother ride than the 328i, but much less refined than the C300's. The engine was rated @ 321 hp, but the car felt 'weighed down' by the all wheel drive system- my Mom's 290 hp Maxima feels faster (VQ35DE). Very nice interior w/ a futuristic look, but the seats were too hard & the side bolsters didn't hug me ( designed for a larger/fat person ?) The car did have great balance in tight corners w/ good grip. Good neutral handling w/ little understeer. The car was an Automatic tranny: decently smooth shifts, but a little slow. ***Overall, much less refined than the Mercedes C-class in all aspects, but nice handling balance that could be compared to a 3-series.

10-22-2012, 10:47 PM	#12 (permalink)
Shamu A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 1,059 Drives: 370Z Racecar Rep Power: 19	Sweet car! Finally a caddy I could live with! __________________ Grant

10-23-2012, 05:46 PM	#14 (permalink)
bigsix A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Thailand Posts: 2,227 Drives: Honda City/Mazda 2 Rep Power: 19	370zproject, The ATS definitely competes w/ other small sports sedans rather than sports cars ( 370z/ FR-S/ Genesis). It's quite impressive that GM builds a car like this, now. Both the drive-train (engine + transmission) and ride quality is lacking in refinement, but would be fun to drive because of its handling and good looks (inside & out). . .