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Using electric supercharger to keep IAT down

i got this crazy idea but since electric superchargers are nothing more than just fans, couldnt you in theory use one to help keep IAT down on the stock airbox

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Old 08-04-2013, 03:48 AM   #1 (permalink)
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i got this crazy idea but since electric superchargers are nothing more than just fans, couldnt you in theory use one to help keep IAT down on the stock airbox or SRI?(like installing it before the filter since we all know those things generally create a restriction)

you would always be pulling in cooler air from the bumper helping cool the IAT

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i got this crazy idea but since electric superchargers are nothing more than just fans, couldnt you in theory use one to help keep IAT down on the stock airbox or SRI?(like installing it before the filter since we all know those things generally create a restriction)

you would always be pulling in cooler air from the bumper helping cool the IAT

any thoughts?
Most of those electric "superchargers" don't cause enough suction to do much. Some even installed onto an air box or the end of an intake can bottle neck the amount of air your engine can actually pull in. The DIY CAI is a better choice as there's nothing to restrict the air but it does allow you to direct cold air from the bumper up towards the intake boxes. The DIY CAI actually works very well. Dropped my temps from about 60-70 above ambient temps with the K&N intake to about 20 degrees above ambient after.
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Most of those electric "superchargers" don't cause enough suction to do much. Some even installed onto an air box or the end of an intake can bottle neck the amount of air your engine can actually pull in. The DIY CAI is a better choice as there's nothing to restrict the air but it does allow you to direct cold air from the bumper up towards the intake boxes. The DIY CAI actually works very well. Dropped my temps from about 60-70 above ambient temps with the K&N intake to about 20 degrees above ambient after.
while i agree that a true CAI/filter relocation is the best way to reduce IAT, i still think this might help

i wouldnt ever install the fan on the intake itself because it is nothing more than a fan and it will create a restriction since it will never be able to move air faster than what the engine can suck air in at but my basic idea was to have it mounted in front of the bumper(kind of like modshack's cold air ducts) where the inlets are for the intake(not on the inlet but in front of it or off to the side so airflow is not restricted)

it is a fan after all and if its on, it should in theory help reduce IAT
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I think the only reason it would be useful is in dead stop traffic or city driving. like you said, it'd be a restriction in any other scenario. Especially since we know the fan won't flow anywhere near as much cold air, even at 30mph
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i got this crazy idea but since electric superchargers are nothing more than just fans, couldnt you in theory use one to help keep IAT down on the stock airbox or SRI?(like installing it before the filter since we all know those things generally create a restriction)

you would always be pulling in cooler air from the bumper helping cool the IAT

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More like just a cooling fan into your bumper.

Ull get lower iat, but your ecu compensates so not sure if ud feel anything.
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Not worth it. As someone else said, it would cause restriction at higher rpm.
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More like just a cooling fan into your bumper.

Ull get lower iat, but your ecu compensates so not sure if ud feel anything.
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Just route your AC to the intake.
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Thanks for the reply everyone.

I was looking around at fans on eBay and for 2 its going to cost more than $100

No thanks. I'll just fabricate some LTI or something. If it would have cost like $30 for both fans I would have done it just to mess around and experiment.
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IAT or Intake Air Temperature Sensor. And it is still Greek.

I set my intakes to cold.
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Just route your AC to the intake.
I just hang a bag of Sonic ice in front of mine. I find that Sonic ice, with it's tiny cubes, allows for more cooling surface area than those bigger cubes form Burger King or McDonald's. Sonic ice is the one performance mod you can't afford to skip. :straightfacedsmilie:
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There are real electric supercharges, but they won't reduce heat. No matter how you compress air, heat is a byproduct
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There are real electric supercharges, but they won't reduce heat. No matter how you compress air, heat is a byproduct
That is very true but those cost way more than $100.

Im talking about those binge blowers marketed at electric superchargers.
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