CNet Review on 370z

KarbonXX · 12-01-2008, 06:03 PM

I dont know if anybody has posted this but below is a link to cnet review on the 370Z

2009 Nissan 370Z Coupe/Hatchback reviews - CNET Reviews

RCZ · 12-01-2008, 06:18 PM

cool

AK370Z · 12-01-2008, 07:58 PM

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The good: With responsive steering, a short wheelbase, and its SynchroRev Matching feature on the manual transmission, the 2009 Nissan 370Z is an excellent car for cornering. An impressive hard drive-based navigation system with traffic and onboard music storage is available.

The bad: Without cabin tech options, the stereo doesn't even play MP3 CDs. The engine sound grates at high rpms and the fuel economy is weak.

The bottom lineThe bottom line: A two-seater, the 2009 Nissan 370Z works best as a weekend sport driver and track day car, or, with the cabin tech package, a grand tourer good for short road trips.

Specifications: Trim levels: 370Z; Available Engine: Gas

CNET editors' review

* Reviewed by: Wayne Cunningham
* Reviewed on: 12/01/2008

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Nissan's Z car tradition goes back to 1969, when the company was called Datsun and the Z launched with a 240 designation. At the 2008 Los Angeles Auto Show, the latest Z came out as the 2009 Nissan 370Z, its new name reflecting a bigger engine and the long ago jettisoning of the Datsun brand. In all those years, Nissan stuck to a naming convention representative of the car's engine displacement, putting the 370Z at 3.7-liters, the biggest engine yet in a Z.

We would expect this Z to be an improvement over that original 240Z, given the nearly 40 years of power-train technology in between them. But the 370Z is also a significant improvement over the 350Z, its immediate predecessor, which is not always the case with new model launches. Not only does the 370Z get a bigger engine, it features some impressive new transmission technology, along with the option of Nissan's excellent suite of cabin technology, which we saw most recently in the new Nissan Maxima.

Unfortunately, our review car was optionless in the cabin, so we didn't get to try out that infotainment center, but even worse, the stock CD player wouldn't read an MP3 CD, a big surprise for a 2009 model from any automaker. But the car makes up for that omission with new styling--an elongated nose and faster back--giving it the appearance of a mini GT-R.

Test the tech: California road trip
Someone once said it's more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car fast. Well, the Nissan 370Z is a fast car so maybe it would be more fun on a road trip. We picked up the keys in Los Angeles and took it up to San Francisco, a drive of a little over 400 miles with the route we chose. The first thing we noticed about the little Z as we drove it out of the parking garage was its extremely smooth shifts. In racy little sports cars, we expect to feel some orneriness at low speeds, with temperamental gas pedals that make first and second gear shifts difficult when you need to drive at 5 or 10 mph. Not the 370Z. It was easy creeping out the driveway, then shifting up to second into typical Los Angeles street traffic.

This reasonable behavior made the following succession of stop lights, before we were able to open it up on the freeway, easy to deal with. On the big arteries, we used the 370Z's impressive acceleration and nimble handling to merge with traffic and change lanes adroitly. The shifter, while not a precision short throw like we've seen in some Hondas, is solid and sufficiently notchy. We put it into fourth, then fifth, then its sixth and top gear, finding usable acceleration in each powerband. This six-speed manual has a neat little trick called SynchroRev Match, which maintains engine speed between downshifts, matching revs to the next gear. As we played with the gearbox, shifting from sixth to fifth, then down to fourth, the revs didn't drop as we lifted off the gas to engage the clutch, making very smooth transitions.

These smooth shifts came into play as we entered the Grapevine, the series of mountains between Los Angeles and California's Central Valley that takes you through the over 4,000-foot-high Tejon Pass. As lesser cars around us slowed at the grades, we put the 370Z in fifth, gave a little more gas, and didn't lose a single mile per hour as we ascended, the powerful V-6 engine propelling the little car without complaint. There are a lot of curves on this section, along with lane changes necessitated by slow trucks, and in maneuvering we found a decent amount of oversteer with the wheel. The car wanted a steady grip, as any accidental pull on the wheel would send it careening into another lane.

Once out of the moderately interesting section of road, we were presented with the long, straight stretch of freeway, the only solace being the 70 mph speed limit. Here the sporty handling and the notchy shifter of the 370Z didn't come into play, but the rigid sports car suspension made itself known. We began to envy our colleague, following the same route in a Lexus RX400h. For entertainment, we plugged an MP3 player into the car's auxiliary input, conveniently placed on the radio face plate just below a big dashboard hatch where all those optional cabin electronics we lusted over would normally go. Well, at least that hatch was a good place to keep the MP3 player.

We cut across to Paso Robles, a town nestled in the mountains, and took a little time out to put the 370Z on some twisties. Forget about all those long miles on the freeway--this side trip was what the car was made for. A fast start broke the rear tires loose until traction control could settle the car down. The big front calipers took some speed off as we entered a turn, and that SynchroRev Match kept us from losing any power on the downshift. A helpful little display on the tachometer showed which gear we were in, leading us to conclude that the 370Z was a good beginner sports car. With its short wheelbase and rear-wheel drive, it was a joy to take it through what corners we could find, and the grip was good enough that we didn't shake the tail out.

But then we had to get back to the long, boring cruise. With little drama we made it the next 200 miles to San Francisco, with the trip computer reporting an unimpressive 18.5 mpg. In the end, we decided that a fast car is not necessarily more fun on a road trip, unless you can make a stop-over to mess around on some good twisty roads.

In the cabin
You know that you are in a sports car when you are sitting in the 2009 Nissan 370Z. The seats are low to the ground, and have knobs to manually raise or lower the front and back of the seat, optimizing driving position. Three pods for gauges rise up from the center of the dashboard--an element held over from the 350Z. One of these pods holds a digital clock, while the other two host gauges for temperature and battery. Switchgear on the steering wheel spokes for audio and cruise control feels solid, reflecting the general quality of fit and finish in the cabin.

This fuel gauge is difficult to read with the sun glaring on it.

One element we aren't crazy about is the multidisplay on the left side of the instrument cluster, next to the center-positioned tachometer. It has a cool-looking metal face plate with an orange monochrome display showing useful information from the trip computer, which is all fine, but the fuel gauge is a row of 16 orange lights along the top of the display. Although it might look cool at night, you can't read it when the sun is bright and glaring through the large back glass.

Because of the angle of that back glass, rearward visibility is poor. Looking in the rear view mirror, you get a gun-slit view out the back. With an SUV right behind us, all we could see were headlights and a strip of grille.

The stock stereo in the 370Z's only saving grace is the auxiliary input in the face plate.

Our car lacked any cabin tech options and had no navigation or cell phone integration, so we were stuck with a basic stereo head unit with a single CD slot. As the CD player couldn't read an MP3 CD, the only saving grace to this system was the auxiliary input on the face plate. The audio system itself was pretty weak, producing muddy sound from two tweeters on the dashboard and four woofers around the cabin. The system had some power to it, giving some oomph to the bass, but overall it lacked separation and clarity

Normally we would slam a car with such limited cabin tech, but we give the 370Z credit for its optional navigation and audio system. Where some automakers limit the cabin tech option on their sports cars, Nissan makes its newest suite of tech available. We used a similar system in the 2009 Nissan Maxima, so got a taste of what's available in the 370Z. That includes a hard drive-based navigation system with traffic and weather, music storage on that hard drive, a good iPod connector, Bose audio system, and Bluetooth cell phone integration.

The VVEL stamp on the engine stands for Variable Valve Event and Lift, one of Nissan's valve technologies for optimizing engine performance.

Under the hood
As a two-seater, the raison d'etre of the 2009 Nissan 370Z is sport driving. Nissan actually shortened the wheelbase by almost 4 inches and lightened the car compared to its predecessor. And they put a bigger engine in it. Nissan has won awards for its 3.5-liter V-6 engine, and used it in many Nissan and Infiniti models. The 370Z gets a tuned and bored-out version of that engine with displacement increased to 3.7-liters. Its 332 horsepower comes at 7,000rpm, and 270 pound-feet of torque peak at 5,200rpm-- more than enough to break grip on the back tires in a fast start.

When we ran the revs up over 6,000 in second gear, the engine sounded rough, making an unpleasant whine. With a redline of 7,500rpm, the engine shouldn't have trouble at these speeds. Nissan uses its latest valve-timing technology on it, which includes variable lift on the intake valves.

We mentioned the six-speed manual above. Its SynchroRev Match option makes attacking corners extraordinarily easy, especially coupled with the gear indicator on the tachometer. Similar to how the Nissan GT-R is a supercar for moderately skilled drivers, Nissan seems to have designed the 370Z as a good beginner track day car. It makes it hard to screw up in a fast corner. Although the 370Z seems like a pure sports car, an automatic transmission is available. But this automatic has seven gears and paddle shifters, so we expect it performs better than a traditional slushbox.

The steering feels very solid, with no drift in the wheel during long stretches at speed. But you have to be ready for oversteer, as each movement of the wheel translates immediately to a new direction for the car. We threw the car into some turns, and were impressed by its grip and the lack of body roll. The 370Z's oversteer meant we could use minimal input on the steering wheel to negotiate a corner. The car has a big brace across its front shock towers, along with a brace under the rear of the car, helping rigidity.

The S-Mode button engages the SynchroRev Match feature.

Our car was equipped with the Sport package, so it had big, four-piston calipers on the front discs. The rear two-piston calipers looked inadequate by comparison. We also had 19-inch RAYS wheels on the car, which looked particularly good, the spokes allowing a clear view of the wide inner rim.

There are no EPA fuel economy ratings for the 2009 Nissan 370Z as of this review, but in our testing we averaged around 18.5 mpg--not a great number, but not surprising for this engine. Emissions ratings also haven't been published for the 370Z.

In sum
We don't have full pricing information for the 2009 Nissan 370Z at this point, but the car should base at about $29,000. Expect to add around $2,500 for the navigation and Bose audio system, and probably a similar amount for the Sport package. It would cost about 10 grand more for the BMW 135i, a car with some similar performance aspects to the 370Z. For about the same money as the 370Z, you could get a Honda S2000, but that roadster lacks any decent cabin tech.

Although we had a few criticisms, there is a lot we like about the 370Z. It not only performs well in sport driving, it uses some interesting tech to help the driver. As for cabin tech, Nissan has been making great strides in this area over the past few years. Our test car might not have been impressive with its basic stereo system, but we give the 370Z plenty of points for the available cabin tech. Design is also a win, as we like the looks of this car, especially in comparison to its predecessor.

Namir · 12-01-2008, 10:17 PM

First video review that was actually entertaining/exciting to watch!
The rest of the video reviews have been Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.... meaning, if it weren't for the sex-Z car I would have fallen asleep because the presenters were lame.

cstr_Cali · 12-01-2008, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Namir

The rest of the video reviews have been Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.... meaning, if

That characterizes pretty much all Cnet reviews. I wouldn't expect them to like the Z. Its not a car for old men.

AK370Z · 12-01-2008, 10:29 PM

Heck, I didn't even knew they do car review now! I thought they did Cell phones and camera reviews only!

jaesung83 · 12-02-2008, 12:08 AM

o0javi0o · 12-02-2008, 12:11 AM

kind of informative and lots of personal opinions.

good review anyway. I really need to try that controversial Rev Matching Tranny.

jaesung83 · 12-02-2008, 12:11 AM

there u go the video on the cnet site!!!~

AK370Z · 12-02-2008, 12:16 AM

Nice video!

He is very enthusiastic about the car. Cool

jaesung83 · 12-02-2008, 12:22 AM

at least this person from cnet has some emotions n' u know.... then the other two videos i saw on here motortread guy n' that idiot on salt place f***ing up the car~

KarbonXX · 12-02-2008, 02:07 AM

Cnet has really good car video reviews. you should check them out.

Dav · 12-02-2008, 02:12 AM

The most important and newest thing he said is about the limited slip differential. He said it is an option, for top version only! If you want/need it, you'd better remember it as you sign at the dealer!

Namir · 12-03-2008, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Dav

The most important and newest thing he said is about the limited slip differential. He said it is an option, for top version only! If you want/need it, you'd better remember it as you sign at the dealer!

Isn't that how the 350z was? The base didn't have LSD but the higher versions did.
I think the g37 only has LSD on the sport models as well.

Dav · 12-03-2008, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Namir

Isn't that how the 350z was? The base didn't have LSD but the higher versions did.
I think the g37 only has LSD on the sport models as well.

Hmmm... I used to have a 2004 "LEV2" 350Z (18" Rays rims, Bose and leather package, don't know how you call it in the US), it had LSD and I guess that LEV1 has got it too.. But it could be different for your country, so it would be for 370Z.. dunno..

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AK370Z Administrator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 9,930 Drives: 09 370Z MB Sports M6 Rep Power: 10	Nice video! He is very enthusiastic about the car. Cool __________________ The370Z Signature Pictures ll Want to rock our forum decals on your car? Then click here! ll How to Embed YouTube Videos In a Post STOP! (Hammertime) ll Become a Premium Member Click HERE ll F.A.Q. Are You a Nissan Dealer? Click Here to Become A "Supporting Dealer" and Start Listing Your 370Zs In Our Inventory Section My Monterey Blue Z ll My Exhaust --> My Intake --> G3 Nissan's Official Response Regarding Oil Temp Issue: CLICK HERE Need a Set of Cheap Winter wheels /Tires? Then Visit The Banner Link Below and Place Your Order. You'll Help Keep The370Z Alive.

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o0javi0o Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Dallas, Tx Posts: 458 Drives: '15 ///M3 6MT Rep Power: 17	kind of informative and lots of personal opinions. good review anyway. I really need to try that controversial Rev Matching Tranny.

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jaesung83 Base Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 49 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 17	there u go the video on the cnet site!!!~

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jaesung83 Base Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 49 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 17	at least this person from cnet has some emotions n' u know.... then the other two videos i saw on here motortread guy n' that idiot on salt place f***ing up the car~

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KarbonXX Base Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 14 Drives: Scooter Rep Power: 17	Cnet has really good car video reviews. you should check them out.

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Dav Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: N Italy, lake Maggiore Posts: 399 Drives: black Lev2 370Z Rep Power: 17	The most important and newest thing he said is about the limited slip differential. He said it is an option, for top version only! If you want/need it, you'd better remember it as you sign at the dealer!