What to do?

Garrett63 · 07-21-2021, 07:37 PM

I have a super clean 2010 40th anniversary with 58k miles on it.

Big bummer that the clearcoat is peeling in a few areas.

Option 1: sell it

1A: Sell as is, deal with the glaring clearcoat peeling issue.

1B: restoration paint job for ~4k shop estimate because the bumper and fenders would need touch ups according to the shop.

1C: Wrap it. This one is super intriguing because it would cost around the same, but would provide protection and give it a fresh look, too. The only issue I have with wrapping is covering up that 40th edition gray, and I don't know how a wrap would affect resale.

Option 2: Keep it

2A: Paint it - keep the 40th look.

2B: Wrap it - haven't looked into cost or options or even thought about it before 10 minutes ago, really.

Just curious on what you other 370 enthusiasts think on the issue, or if you have an information that will help make my decision easier.

Thanks!

JARblue · 07-21-2021, 07:45 PM

If you wrap it go with something normal and nothing crazy if you aren't keeping the car. Make sure it will appeal to as many potential buyers as possible.

Wrapping it is a way to protect the paint from further degradation if you aren't going to fix the clear coat now. So if anything that's a positive for the seller. You can choose whether or not to disclose the condition of the paint underneath the wrap but many buyers won't even care.

I say keep it and fix the paint. Unless you want to wrap it with something unique.

viiv · 07-21-2021, 08:08 PM

What about wrapping with clear PPF? New 'clearcoat', get to keep the colour and original factory paint.

Sadly unless anyone can correct me, I don't think it's possible for a bodyshop to redo the clearcoat while keeping the factory base coat intact?

cv129 · 07-21-2021, 08:30 PM

Another option here, let’s see if it’s feasible…

First picture is that little water channel above the door, edge of the roof, right?
Second pic is the corner of the hood obviously.

Those are such small small areas, heck, level clear coat off those two areas, good polish for the rest of the car (no compounding, I’m afraid your clear coat may already be thin in other areas), ceramic coat the car entirely. Even luckier if you can find a good 40th hood on eBay.

PPF’s are great, but they do have a life span and become a super pita to remove, especially if they get real dry.

I would wrap if cc is failing all over the car.

Garrett63 · 07-21-2021, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by cv129

Another option here, let’s see if it’s feasible…

First picture is that little water channel above the door, edge of the roof, right?
Second pic is the corner of the hood obviously.

Those are such small small areas, heck, level clear coat off those two areas, good polish for the rest of the car (no compounding, I’m afraid your clear coat may already be thin in other areas), ceramic coat the car entirely. Even luckier if you can find a good 40th hood on eBay.

PPF’s are great, but they do have a life span and become a super pita to remove, especially if they get real dry.

I would wrap if cc is failing all over the car.

Yep its the channel above the door. There are tiny signs of it failing in other areas. I did put a ceramic coat on it about 4 years ago. I think a wrap is the way to go now that I think about it.

I didn't even consider a wrap as an option before finding out how hard this problem is to deal with and repair.

If I was to sell it, I guess I'm trying to figure out if it is even worth it to put the money into it to wrap it. If I'm going to keep it, its already an 11 year old car so wrapping it something unique would be an option.

I'm just kinda thinking out loud here. I was hoping this would be a quick $1500 fix, now everything is up in the air.. haha

cv129 · 07-21-2021, 08:42 PM

Ceramic coated before, 58k miles, and clear coat is failing? Wtf…you park in the dessert with acid rain or something? Lol

Best of luck man. Sucks.

Edit: little bit off topic…did you get it paint corrected as well? Some detailers go to town on compounding, taking more than necessary amount of clear coat off. I wonder if that’s the case.

Garrett63 · 07-21-2021, 08:52 PM

Here are some additonal photos for context- taken today.

I don't know why they are coming in upside down...

BORNGEARHEAD · 07-21-2021, 08:54 PM

Sell it as is or keep it and get it painted.

Tractionless · 07-22-2021, 08:51 AM

Your paint guy is killing you. Been using mine for 10 years and charges $275 per panel for PPG products.

2011 Nismo#91 · 07-22-2021, 01:18 PM

A Matte wrap might be able to hide it but wraps in general take the surface they are placed on so it will show and rough areas. Sell it as is and just have a quote for repair handy for low ballers. Or if you want to keep it you can fix it correctly and wrap it to prevent future damage or save money where you feel it's ok to.

Hotrodz · 07-22-2021, 03:19 PM

LMAO, Set on fire and collect the insurance!

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nis350 · 07-22-2021, 03:40 PM

OP - I think the key factor is whether you want to keep the car. That's a decision only you can make. It doesn't make a lot of sense spending money to remedy the issues only to sell it. Just factor the issue in the sale price so that the buyer can do whatever he/she chooses.

Make the most important decision first - keep or sell, then go from there. Good luck.

07-21-2021, 07:45 PM	#2 (permalink)
JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 43 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684440	If you wrap it go with something normal and nothing crazy if you aren't keeping the car. Make sure it will appeal to as many potential buyers as possible. Wrapping it is a way to protect the paint from further degradation if you aren't going to fix the clear coat now. So if anything that's a positive for the seller. You can choose whether or not to disclose the condition of the paint underneath the wrap but many buyers won't even care. I say keep it and fix the paint. Unless you want to wrap it with something unique. Spartan 1771, cv129, Garrett63 and 1 others like this. __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

07-21-2021, 08:08 PM	#3 (permalink)
viiv Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Montreal Posts: 294 Drives: 20 Nissan 370Z PR M6 Rep Power: 34016	What about wrapping with clear PPF? New 'clearcoat', get to keep the colour and original factory paint. Sadly unless anyone can correct me, I don't think it's possible for a bodyshop to redo the clearcoat while keeping the factory base coat intact? Garrett63 likes this. Last edited by viiv; 07-21-2021 at 08:22 PM.

07-21-2021, 08:30 PM	#4 (permalink)
cv129 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,222 Drives: 09 Nismo, 16 Nismo Rep Power: 163995	Another option here, let’s see if it’s feasible… First picture is that little water channel above the door, edge of the roof, right? Second pic is the corner of the hood obviously. Those are such small small areas, heck, level clear coat off those two areas, good polish for the rest of the car (no compounding, I’m afraid your clear coat may already be thin in other areas), ceramic coat the car entirely. Even luckier if you can find a good 40th hood on eBay. PPF’s are great, but they do have a life span and become a super pita to remove, especially if they get real dry. I would wrap if cc is failing all over the car. Garrett63 likes this. __________________ Setrab \| RE-71 \| SPL \| JRZ \| Nismo \| ARK \| Whiteline \| RacingBrake \| CJM Oil Pan \| Ti shield

07-21-2021, 08:42 PM	#6 (permalink)
cv129 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,222 Drives: 09 Nismo, 16 Nismo Rep Power: 163995	Ceramic coated before, 58k miles, and clear coat is failing? Wtf…you park in the dessert with acid rain or something? Lol Best of luck man. Sucks. Edit: little bit off topic…did you get it paint corrected as well? Some detailers go to town on compounding, taking more than necessary amount of clear coat off. I wonder if that’s the case. JARblue likes this. __________________ Setrab \| RE-71 \| SPL \| JRZ \| Nismo \| ARK \| Whiteline \| RacingBrake \| CJM Oil Pan \| Ti shield Last edited by cv129; 07-21-2021 at 08:44 PM.

07-21-2021, 08:54 PM	#8 (permalink)
BORNGEARHEAD Base Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: WI Posts: 58 Drives: 2020 370z Passion Rep Power: 3360	Sell it as is or keep it and get it painted. Hotrodz likes this. __________________ '20 370Z Sport - '15 Frontier - '04 350Z Roadster - '79 Datsun 620

07-22-2021, 08:51 AM	#9 (permalink)
Tractionless A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Atlantic SE Posts: 1,322 Drives: '10 K23 ST 7AT Rep Power: 30525	Your paint guy is killing you. Been using mine for 10 years and charges $275 per panel for PPG products. __________________ Toys Not Tots

07-22-2021, 01:18 PM	#10 (permalink)
2011 Nismo#91 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NJ Posts: 2,400 Drives: slowly Rep Power: 40569	A Matte wrap might be able to hide it but wraps in general take the surface they are placed on so it will show and rough areas. Sell it as is and just have a quote for repair handy for low ballers. Or if you want to keep it you can fix it correctly and wrap it to prevent future damage or save money where you feel it's ok to. __________________ GTR TT 493Whp/431lbft, Ecutek, Southbend 6puck,Quaife, RPM RollBar 4Point, R888R, JRZ RSPro F(10R/10C) R(10R/6C) 1000f500r inlbs+150inlbs Tender, SPL everywhere.Full Specs

07-22-2021, 03:19 PM	#11 (permalink)
Hotrodz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684385	LMAO, Set on fire and collect the insurance! Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk JARblue likes this. __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

07-22-2021, 03:40 PM	#12 (permalink)
nis350 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: socal Posts: 1,104 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 13435	OP - I think the key factor is whether you want to keep the car. That's a decision only you can make. It doesn't make a lot of sense spending money to remedy the issues only to sell it. Just factor the issue in the sale price so that the buyer can do whatever he/she chooses. Make the most important decision first - keep or sell, then go from there. Good luck.