Stillen supercharger ???

Cj7379 · 10-11-2018, 10:15 PM

Can someone explain to me why the stock water cooled stillen supercharger is bad and that one needs to the air cool kit to make it work properly.

wideglideleon · 10-12-2018, 04:31 PM

Search will help you best. start here ->
Topgunz - air to air upgrade

I would have NEVER gone with their system if it hadn't been for TopgunZ's upgrade, way too many popped motors with Stillens stock system. He also has a complete package with SC etc here-> Topgunz full supercharger kits!!

Cj7379 · 10-22-2018, 08:03 PM

what causes the stock stillen supercharger to ruin engines?

JARblue · 10-22-2018, 08:24 PM

Poor design. Also a lot of people are idiots and drive it on Stillen's canned tune.

Spooler · 10-22-2018, 10:53 PM

The MAF's are at the front bumper and before the supercharger. They should be right after the CAC. The air density/temp is way different causing the issue of running lean under different boost conditions. The water to air CAC is in the intake. No place to put the MAF's. That's what causes the issue when folks try to turn them up. They end up blowing the engine. The A2A doesn't have this issue. Most tuners use a hybrid system to tune them also with the MAF's and using speed density. Clear as mud probably.

Luciano13 · 11-01-2018, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Cj7379

Can someone explain to me why the stock water cooled stillen supercharger is bad and that one needs to the air cool kit to make it work properly.

If you leave it bone stock and are happy with the power it will last forever with proper maintenance

Chuck33079 · 11-01-2018, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Luciano13

If you leave it bone stock and are happy with the power it will last forever with proper maintenance

That is not true. The MAF location and the crappy canned tune had led to a lot of failures with the system right out of the box. If you ditch the canned tune you may be ok with the kit as designed, but the combo doesn't work.

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Cj7379 Base Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 38 Drives: 2017 370z Rep Power: 60	Stillen supercharger ??? Can someone explain to me why the stock water cooled stillen supercharger is bad and that one needs to the air cool kit to make it work properly.

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wideglideleon Track Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Tucson AZ Posts: 569 Drives: SC 09 370Z LG 7AT Rep Power: 64085	Search will help you best. start here -> Topgunz - air to air upgrade I would have NEVER gone with their system if it hadn't been for TopgunZ's upgrade, way too many popped motors with Stillens stock system. He also has a complete package with SC etc here-> Topgunz full supercharger kits!! Rusty and redondoaveb like this. Last edited by wideglideleon; 10-23-2018 at 02:23 PM.

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JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 43 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684440	Poor design. Also a lot of people are idiots and drive it on Stillen's canned tune. Chuck33079 and redondoaveb like this. __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

10-22-2018, 10:53 PM	#5 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,830 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684392	The MAF's are at the front bumper and before the supercharger. They should be right after the CAC. The air density/temp is way different causing the issue of running lean under different boost conditions. The water to air CAC is in the intake. No place to put the MAF's. That's what causes the issue when folks try to turn them up. They end up blowing the engine. The A2A doesn't have this issue. Most tuners use a hybrid system to tune them also with the MAF's and using speed density. Clear as mud probably. redondoaveb likes this. Last edited by Spooler; 10-22-2018 at 10:58 PM.

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