Gtm S/C Stg 1.5, help?

megalapagas · 05-30-2013, 05:29 PM

im debating if I should go ahead and purchase this s/c, seeing as my 370z is A/t I assume it"ll have a big advantage with this

. Anyways whats the difference between the Tuner and Turn Key package am Confused, also im assuming I need a transmission cooler but whats the difference with this cooler and the 25 row oil cooler??? Thx I really need some advise from FI users or preferably Gtm (seeing as I know you guys have phone calls from left and right

) like I said Thx and hope ya'll can guide me with this before I go ahead and purchase this system.

olddudesrule · 05-30-2013, 05:42 PM

Don't take this negatively, but first off, you need to do a lot of reading on this forum and on the web in general about the available systems out there. Use the search function. Yesterday, I read a 39 page thread on S/C vs. twin turbos for our engines that's on this forum (GTM's original release thread from 2011). I thought I knew a lot already, but learned some specific knowledge reference how our cars react to both these systems.

Secondly, by your post we can tell that you have a lot to learn, in general, about performance upgrades (difference between a 25 row oil cooler and a trans cooler...).

Again, I don't mean to sound like I'm digging on you, but if your considering adding a s/c to your car, you better educate yourself. That's a ton of $$$ to think about spending, especially if you aren't knowledgable about these cars, the 3.7L motor, what's needed pre/post installation, etc, etc.

Get reading and good luck with the search!!

Chuck33079 · 05-30-2013, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by olddudesrule

Don't take this negatively, but first off, you need to do a lot of reading on this forum and on the web in general about the available systems out there. Use the search function. Yesterday, I read a 39 page thread on S/C vs. twin turbos for our engines that's on this forum (GTM's original release thread from 2011). I thought I knew a lot already, but learned some specific knowledge reference how our cars react to both these systems.

Secondly, by your post we can tell that you have a lot to learn, in general, about performance upgrades (difference between a 25 row oil cooler and a trans cooler...).

Again, I don't mean to sound like I'm digging on you, but if your considering adding a s/c to your car, you better educate yourself. That's a ton of $$$ to think about spending, especially if you aren't knowledgable about these cars, the 3.7L motor, what's needed pre/post installation, etc, etc.

Get reading and good luck with the search!!

All of this. Plus, the AT does not do well with power over the 400-450whp mark. You can tinker with line pressure and a cooler, but you'll still have to deal with the clutch packs being too small in the higher gears. If you're set on this, figure the cost of the kit to be about half of the total build cost. There's a lot of other stuff you need, and it adds up quickly.

megalapagas · 05-30-2013, 06:08 PM

Thx pretty much answered everything.

Chuck33079 · 05-30-2013, 06:17 PM

If you really want to bring yourself up to speed on the concepts in general, order these.

Maximum Boost: Designing, Testing, and Installing Turbocharger Systems (Engineering and Performance): Corky Bell: 9780837601601: Amazon.com: Books

Supercharged! Design, Testing and Installation of Supercharger Systems: Corky Bell: 9780837601687: Amazon.com: Books

They're not Z specific and some info can be a little dated, but it's pretty much required reading for forced induction, specifically aftermarket forced induction.

Baer383 · 05-30-2013, 08:26 PM

I had my Stage 1.5 kit on my 2010 sport/touring 7at with 470 rwhp you will need a 25 row trans cooler (mine had a Spal 6.5in electric fan)and you should strongly consider at least a VB upgrade and if funds allow it a stage 4 trans from GTM.

The reason I have a Nismo now is b/c the trans started slipping 6 months after install with some pretty hard abuse.

megalapagas · 05-31-2013, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383

I had my Stage 1.5 kit on my 2010 sport/touring 7at with 470 rwhp you will need a 25 row trans cooler (mine had a Spal 6.5in electric fan)and you should strongly consider at least a VB upgrade and if funds allow it a stage 4 trans from GTM.

The reason I have a Nismo now is b/c the trans started slipping 6 months after install with some pretty hard abuse.

Thx, this is basically what i was asking and i spoke to mike from gtm and he told me the same thing Vb with a 25 row oil cooler and the (Turn Key) kit should be ok, OBVIOUSLY theres some more upgrades i need to do ofcourse but thats just the necessities for now and naa im not about hard abuse on my car since it is my DD i try keeping it in tip top shape. Thx brotha much appreciated on your advice!

Baer383 · 05-31-2013, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by megalapagas

im not about hard abuse on my car since it is my DD i try keeping it in tip top shape.

Thats what we all said till we had boost,now you can't keep your foot out of it.

elperuano · 05-31-2013, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383

Thats what we all said till we had boost,now you can't keep your foot out of it.

True story

Tombonombona · 05-31-2013, 08:15 PM

Is this your first boosted car? Also, I wouldn't look into doing this if it is your DD. Adding that kind of power effects reliability no matter how gentle you are.... Plus the time between ordering and getting the kit is roughly five months (mine just shipped today)

Chuck33079 · 05-31-2013, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombonombona

Is this your first boosted car? Also, I wouldn't look into doing this if it is your DD. Adding that kind of power effects reliability no matter how gentle you are.... Plus the time between ordering and getting the kit is roughly five months (mine just shipped today)

If you get a good conservative tune and keep on maintenance, using it for a DD is fine.

Tombonombona · 05-31-2013, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

If you get a good conservative tune and keep on maintenance, using it for a DD is fine.

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Yeah but how many people actually do that. Well the smart ones at least. I know too many people that boost their cars, don't do any maint or supporting mods (cooling and such). And then bitch to the company when their motor pops.

chrischhorn · 05-31-2013, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombonombona

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Yeah but how many people actually do that. Well the smart ones at least. I know too many people that boost their cars, don't do any maint or supporting mods (cooling and such). And then bitch to the company when their motor pops.

Guy on here Niztalgic, has been running his supercharged Nismo as his daily for a years now. Pretty conservative tune I believe around 440whp and he romps on it pretty often. Not that he doesn't make quite a bit of money and has plenty of vehicles to back up but he's never had any down time since the install.

Chuck33079 · 05-31-2013, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombonombona

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Yeah but how many people actually do that. Well the smart ones at least. I know too many people that boost their cars, don't do any maint or supporting mods (cooling and such). And then bitch to the company when their motor pops.

If you don't do all the supporting mods and cooling mods, it's owner error. If you buy everything you need and get a good conservative tune, you'll be fine.

05-30-2013, 05:29 PM	#1 (permalink)
megalapagas Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: McAllen,TX Posts: 457 Drives: '10 370Z Tour A/T Rep Power: 12	Gtm S/C Stg 1.5, help? im debating if I should go ahead and purchase this s/c, seeing as my 370z is A/t I assume it"ll have a big advantage with this . Anyways whats the difference between the Tuner and Turn Key package am Confused, also im assuming I need a transmission cooler but whats the difference with this cooler and the 25 row oil cooler??? Thx I really need some advise from FI users or preferably Gtm (seeing as I know you guys have phone calls from left and right ) like I said Thx and hope ya'll can guide me with this before I go ahead and purchase this system.

05-30-2013, 05:42 PM	#2 (permalink)
olddudesrule Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 252 Drives: 2012 Nismo Rep Power: 12	Don't take this negatively, but first off, you need to do a lot of reading on this forum and on the web in general about the available systems out there. Use the search function. Yesterday, I read a 39 page thread on S/C vs. twin turbos for our engines that's on this forum (GTM's original release thread from 2011). I thought I knew a lot already, but learned some specific knowledge reference how our cars react to both these systems. Secondly, by your post we can tell that you have a lot to learn, in general, about performance upgrades (difference between a 25 row oil cooler and a trans cooler...). Again, I don't mean to sound like I'm digging on you, but if your considering adding a s/c to your car, you better educate yourself. That's a ton of $$$ to think about spending, especially if you aren't knowledgable about these cars, the 3.7L motor, what's needed pre/post installation, etc, etc. Get reading and good luck with the search!! Stino, elperuano and megalapagas like this.

05-30-2013, 06:17 PM	#5 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	If you really want to bring yourself up to speed on the concepts in general, order these. Maximum Boost: Designing, Testing, and Installing Turbocharger Systems (Engineering and Performance): Corky Bell: 9780837601601: Amazon.com: Books Supercharged! Design, Testing and Installation of Supercharger Systems: Corky Bell: 9780837601687: Amazon.com: Books They're not Z specific and some info can be a little dated, but it's pretty much required reading for forced induction, specifically aftermarket forced induction. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

05-30-2013, 08:26 PM	#6 (permalink)
Baer383 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Lawrenceville,Ga Posts: 4,293 Drives: My foot up your azz Rep Power: 30	I had my Stage 1.5 kit on my 2010 sport/touring 7at with 470 rwhp you will need a 25 row trans cooler (mine had a Spal 6.5in electric fan)and you should strongly consider at least a VB upgrade and if funds allow it a stage 4 trans from GTM. The reason I have a Nismo now is b/c the trans started slipping 6 months after install with some pretty hard abuse. DEpointfive0 and megalapagas like this. __________________ 2013 ZL1 754 rwhp 747 rwtq

05-31-2013, 08:15 PM	#10 (permalink)
Tombonombona Base Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Sk, Canada Posts: 159 Drives: 2012 370z Mag Black Rep Power: 13	Is this your first boosted car? Also, I wouldn't look into doing this if it is your DD. Adding that kind of power effects reliability no matter how gentle you are.... Plus the time between ordering and getting the kit is roughly five months (mine just shipped today) __________________ Tom B. Exotic Speed R2 Titan Catback-GTM Stage 2 Supercharger 522 whp on a mustang dyno 2004 Subaru STi **SOLD WRITTEN OFF**

05-30-2013, 06:08 PM	#4 (permalink)
megalapagas Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: McAllen,TX Posts: 457 Drives: '10 370Z Tour A/T Rep Power: 12	Thx pretty much answered everything.