insulated blankets/wrapping & heat tape

bcfromfl · 12-01-2016, 12:35 PM

Hi everyone --

Haven't seen much discussion about insulation here, but came across this excellent thread on another forum where extensive testing was done...data geeks will love this: Heat Management Testing and analysis (DEI Heat Wrap, Turbo Blanket, Reflective Tape) - Honda-Tech It's a long thread, but a good read.

A few good pics here for ideas: Gimmick Motorsports Titanium Heat Wrap and Turbo Blanket (vs. DEI and PTP ) - NASIOC

The benefits from doing this seem significant. If you're considering a build, this would be infinitely easier to do while everything's apart, rather than trying to add afterwards! An interesting location for reflective tape suggested in the Honda thread was the backside of the intercooler collector tanks, to eliminate some radiant heat raising the temperature of the aluminum. Also discussed in the thread were phenolic gaskets between the intake manifold and throttle body to curb heat soak transfer, to help drop intake temps even further.

Chuck33079 · 12-01-2016, 12:50 PM

A turbo blanket and miles of heat wrap are essential on any FI build. Since our intake manifold is plastic, it doesn't really transmit heat like a metal one would.

Jayhovah · 12-01-2016, 01:52 PM

I wrapped the crap out of everything when I did my install... but I do not have turbo blankets... I have considered adding them though.... hmm. I'll have the car apart over Christmas for a few other things, maybe I need to add this to the list.

Chuck - are you running blankets on your TTs?

Chuck33079 · 12-01-2016, 02:50 PM

No, there wasn't room under the heat shields. But everything else is wrapped when possible and ceramic coated, including the hot sides of the turbo.

Jayhovah · 12-01-2016, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

No, there wasn't room under the heat shields. But everything else is wrapped when possible and ceramic coated, including the hot sides of the turbo.

Interesting - where is the placement on your kit?

On my V3, it looks like I could fit them.... Couple of pics:

Chuck33079 · 12-01-2016, 03:02 PM

It looks like it will fit, but getting it on there is a different story. At least after install.

Jayhovah · 12-01-2016, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

It looks like it will fit, but getting it on there is a different story. At least after install.

Think so? They look like they are pretty simple to wrap on....

And the knockoff versions are cheap enough it might be worth trying...
https://www.amazon.com/HM-FC-Titaniu...3+lava+blanket

I'll be pulling a bunch of crap anyway over Christmas... think I might give it a shot!

Chuck33079 · 12-01-2016, 03:15 PM

The issue would be getting it on and wired to stay. It wouldn't be too bad during the install of the kit, but the heat shields over the turbos are kinda in the way. I'm sure you could do it, but you'll have some bloody knuckles.

rovert · 12-01-2016, 04:04 PM

Depending on Turbo location, heat shields rather than blankets or wrap can be a better solution.
Turbo blankets & wrap do a great job at reducing radiant heat but can cause significant problems as well.
Corky Bell posts occasionally over on the Miata forums & gives a bit of insight, i'll post a link to a similiar discussion over there. regarding turbo blankets - MX-5 Miata Forum
Cheers, Trevor.

Jayhovah · 12-01-2016, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rovert

Depending on Turbo location, heat shields rather than blankets or wrap can be a better solution.
Turbo blankets & wrap do a great job at reducing radiant heat but can cause significant problems as well.
Corky Bell posts occasionally over on the Miata forums & gives a bit of insight, i'll post a link to a similiar discussion over there. regarding turbo blankets - MX-5 Miata Forum
Cheers, Trevor.

Thanks for this info! If Corky Bell doesn't like turbo blankets, then I don't either. I guess one less thing on the list.

edit: For anyone wondering - Corky's take is that the blanket will have a substantial negative impact on the life of the turbo itself and he suggests shielding the surrounding heat sensitive components themselves instead of blanketing the turbine.

ChaseZ · 12-03-2016, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayhovah

Thanks for this info! If Corky Bell doesn't like turbo blankets, then I don't either. I guess one less thing on the list.

edit: For anyone wondering - Corky's take is that the blanket will have a substantial negative impact on the life of the turbo itself and he suggests shielding the surrounding heat sensitive components themselves instead of blanketing the turbine.

Seems logical.

12-01-2016, 12:35 PM	#1 (permalink)
bcfromfl Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Youngstown, FL Posts: 256 Drives: 2015 PW Nismo 6MT Rep Power: 9	insulated blankets/wrapping & heat tape Hi everyone -- Haven't seen much discussion about insulation here, but came across this excellent thread on another forum where extensive testing was done...data geeks will love this: Heat Management Testing and analysis (DEI Heat Wrap, Turbo Blanket, Reflective Tape) - Honda-Tech It's a long thread, but a good read. A few good pics here for ideas: Gimmick Motorsports Titanium Heat Wrap and Turbo Blanket (vs. DEI and PTP ) - NASIOC The benefits from doing this seem significant. If you're considering a build, this would be infinitely easier to do while everything's apart, rather than trying to add afterwards! An interesting location for reflective tape suggested in the Honda thread was the backside of the intercooler collector tanks, to eliminate some radiant heat raising the temperature of the aluminum. Also discussed in the thread were phenolic gaskets between the intake manifold and throttle body to curb heat soak transfer, to help drop intake temps even further.

12-01-2016, 12:50 PM	#2 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	A turbo blanket and miles of heat wrap are essential on any FI build. Since our intake manifold is plastic, it doesn't really transmit heat like a metal one would. 2011 Nismo#91 likes this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

12-01-2016, 02:50 PM	#4 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	No, there wasn't room under the heat shields. But everything else is wrapped when possible and ceramic coated, including the hot sides of the turbo. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

12-01-2016, 03:02 PM	#6 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	It looks like it will fit, but getting it on there is a different story. At least after install. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

12-01-2016, 03:15 PM	#8 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	The issue would be getting it on and wired to stay. It wouldn't be too bad during the install of the kit, but the heat shields over the turbos are kinda in the way. I'm sure you could do it, but you'll have some bloody knuckles. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

12-01-2016, 04:04 PM	#9 (permalink)
rovert Base Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Australia Posts: 64 Drives: 08 Skyline 370GT Rep Power: 10	Depending on Turbo location, heat shields rather than blankets or wrap can be a better solution. Turbo blankets & wrap do a great job at reducing radiant heat but can cause significant problems as well. Corky Bell posts occasionally over on the Miata forums & gives a bit of insight, i'll post a link to a similiar discussion over there. regarding turbo blankets - MX-5 Miata Forum Cheers, Trevor. __________________ 08 Skyline 370GT SP Coupe 5AT: Diy TT

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