Tracking the car, Oil cooler questions

tommyguns · 02-05-2011, 12:31 PM

Hi all,
I'm having the short block replacement done next week, so I thought I would have the Z1 oil cooler installed at the same time being that I intend to start taking the car to the track when the weather breaks. With my current short block my temps sit around 230 with some spirited driving. Should I expect that to change once the shorty is done or will it still be an issue.
I have a few questions I need answers to.
1) How many of you track your car without the cooler and what were your temps?
2)How many of you track your car with the cooler and what were your temps?
3) My dealer is telling me that I should be fine without it. Is he correct?
4) In my situation meaning that the engine is getting pulled, how long should the cooler install take.
Thank you in advance and kindest regards,
Tom

Trips · 02-05-2011, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tommyguns

Hi all,
I'm having the short block replacement done next week, so I thought I would have the Z1 oil cooler installed at the same time being that I intend to start taking the car to the track when the weather breaks. With my current short block my temps sit around 230 with some spirited driving. Should I expect that to change once the shorty is done or will it still be an issue.
I have a few questions I need answers to.
1) How many of you track your car without the cooler and what were your temps?
2)How many of you track your car with the cooler and what were your temps?
3) My dealer is telling me that I should be fine without it. Is he correct?
4) In my situation meaning that the engine is getting pulled, how long should the cooler install take.
Thank you in advance and kindest regards,
Tom

1. I've not tracked yet but have done plenty of Canyon Carving in hot and cool temps
2. All depends on ambient temp? on avg 20-25 degree drop in temp for me on a GTM Comp 34 row oil cooler
3. You're dealers kinda right if you're doing one lap, and the day is cool? other than that a cooler is a must
4. 1hr to 1 1/2hr

christian370z · 02-05-2011, 01:27 PM

My experiences with a Stillen 25 row oil cooler custom mounted to the driver's side:

1) Same as Triple's, I ran the car in canyon driving without a cooler in hot ambient temperatures and got very close to 280 degrees and I wasn't pushing the car super hard.
2) With the cooler, I saw 30-40 degree drop in temperature everywhere, especially when pushing the car to its max. Pushing the car hard, I saw a 60 degree drop in oil temperatures and the car never goes past 220 degrees now.
3) You need a cooler, don't even listen to the dealer.
4) It should be an hour and a half most like since they have to drill the two holes in the plastic fairing. Other than that, it is just a matter of connecting lines and bolting on the cooler and sandwich adapter.

tommyguns · 02-06-2011, 12:47 PM

Thank you for the info. Looks like I will be installing an oil cooler after all!
Kindest regards,
Tom

cossie1600 · 02-06-2011, 04:46 PM

I am running off memory here, but I recall the car started to creep over 250F with a 25R oil cooler after 3 hard laps at VIR (shifts at redline). When I took it easy, it steadied around 220-240F. That was at 70-80F weather

StealthZ · 02-07-2011, 05:30 PM

I have had nothing but great results with the AE kit. I pushed it as hard as could, and the kit just out right worked great.

SPOHN · 02-07-2011, 07:24 PM

I just hit 220 in 55 degree weather in stop and go traffic. So I also just ordered a GTM 34 row oil cooler. Be perfect for the GA summers.

daisuke149 · 02-07-2011, 08:08 PM

yeah i would hit 220-250 just driving around. put in the biggest z1 cooler i could get and at the track i didnt go above 210 that i remember seeing.

tommyguns · 02-07-2011, 08:44 PM

I'm glad I didn't order mine yet, I was going to get th Z1 25 row but it looks like I will need the 34 row.
Thanks again guys!

cossie1600 · 02-07-2011, 09:24 PM

Get a block off plate for the oil cooler, oil will have a hard time to come up to temperature

SPOHN · 02-07-2011, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daisuke149

yeah i would hit 220-250 just driving around. put in the biggest z1 cooler i could get and at the track i didnt go above 210 that i remember seeing.

That's good to know. I can't wait to get on a track. Been a long time. Then after my wreak three years ago I still have some fears to over come. Course it isn't helping that I haven't had much time to push it due to breaking it in and the down time I've had. Just got my headlights installed back in today. Plus my coilovers come in this week I hope. They were post to be shipped out friday but haven't heard. You know how that goes. They even said they were in stock. But I doubt they were. Good thing for a beautiful weekend coming up.

tommyguns · 02-07-2011, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cossie1600

Get a block off plate for the oil cooler, oil will have a hard time to come up to temperature

Thanks for the input, I'm ordering the thermostatic oil plate with the 34 row cooler from Z1

cossie1600 · 02-07-2011, 11:26 PM

Get a block off plate made, I regret for not doing it. I have a 25R and I have a tough time getting it up past 180F as soon as I get on the highway.

daisuke149 · 02-07-2011, 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cossie1600

Get a block off plate made, I regret for not doing it. I have a 25R and I have a tough time getting it up past 180F as soon as I get on the highway.

Theres a thread with Dustin explaining how once you install an oil cooler the oil temps you reading arent exactly accurate. The temp sensor is on the return line. I forget the exact stuff behind it, but I think they are working on a solution.

Worth a check though.

02-05-2011, 12:31 PM	#1 (permalink)
tommyguns Track Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: New York Age: 65 Posts: 914 Drives: 370Z/Sport/Black/MT Rep Power: 17	Tracking the car, Oil cooler questions Hi all, I'm having the short block replacement done next week, so I thought I would have the Z1 oil cooler installed at the same time being that I intend to start taking the car to the track when the weather breaks. With my current short block my temps sit around 230 with some spirited driving. Should I expect that to change once the shorty is done or will it still be an issue. I have a few questions I need answers to. 1) How many of you track your car without the cooler and what were your temps? 2)How many of you track your car with the cooler and what were your temps? 3) My dealer is telling me that I should be fine without it. Is he correct? 4) In my situation meaning that the engine is getting pulled, how long should the cooler install take. Thank you in advance and kindest regards, Tom __________________ 09 Sport / MB / 6sd / Nismo"R" Intake / Eibach Pro Kit / Z1 25 row cooler / JWT LW FW / New Short Block 3/11/11 /H&R 15fr 20rr/DBA 4000/FI CB with 12"res./Morel/JL/"Division"mod/SPC/EcuTek/M370/ZEX C SHOT/ART's/NRG

02-05-2011, 01:27 PM	#3 (permalink)
christian370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Newport Beach Posts: 3,900 Drives: 2010 370Z/Saab 900se Rep Power: 432	My experiences with a Stillen 25 row oil cooler custom mounted to the driver's side: 1) Same as Triple's, I ran the car in canyon driving without a cooler in hot ambient temperatures and got very close to 280 degrees and I wasn't pushing the car super hard. 2) With the cooler, I saw 30-40 degree drop in temperature everywhere, especially when pushing the car to its max. Pushing the car hard, I saw a 60 degree drop in oil temperatures and the car never goes past 220 degrees now. 3) You need a cooler, don't even listen to the dealer. 4) It should be an hour and a half most like since they have to drill the two holes in the plastic fairing. Other than that, it is just a matter of connecting lines and bolting on the cooler and sandwich adapter. __________________ -320whp / 259wftlbs- SP Rays -- RE-11s -- SpecialtyZ Tune -- Swift Springs -- Stillen 25R Oil Cooler -- Stillen G3 Intakes -- Berk HFCs -- F.I. 12" CBE -- Stillen Sway Bars -- Es14 Spring -- INGS+1 lip -- CF Spoiler -- GTR Start Button -- VLED Parking Lights -- PWJDM V2 shift knob

02-06-2011, 12:47 PM	#4 (permalink)
tommyguns Track Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: New York Age: 65 Posts: 914 Drives: 370Z/Sport/Black/MT Rep Power: 17	Thank you for the info. Looks like I will be installing an oil cooler after all! Kindest regards, Tom __________________ 09 Sport / MB / 6sd / Nismo"R" Intake / Eibach Pro Kit / Z1 25 row cooler / JWT LW FW / New Short Block 3/11/11 /H&R 15fr 20rr/DBA 4000/FI CB with 12"res./Morel/JL/"Division"mod/SPC/EcuTek/M370/ZEX C SHOT/ART's/NRG

02-07-2011, 05:30 PM	#6 (permalink)
StealthZ Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 356 Drives: '14 GTR Premium Rep Power: 17	I have had nothing but great results with the AE kit. I pushed it as hard as could, and the kit just out right worked great. __________________ Past rides: '07 350Z San Marino blue, '09 370z Brilliant silver, '11 Evo X Phantom Black (felt like a brick but did anything) '13 BRZ Satin white (so much fun) now driving the dream.

02-07-2011, 07:24 PM	#7 (permalink)
SPOHN A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Covington, GA Age: 45 Posts: 14,844 Drives: Waiting on next Z Rep Power: 221	I just hit 220 in 55 degree weather in stop and go traffic. So I also just ordered a GTM 34 row oil cooler. Be perfect for the GA summers. __________________

02-06-2011, 04:46 PM	#5 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 30	I am running off memory here, but I recall the car started to creep over 250F with a 25R oil cooler after 3 hard laps at VIR (shifts at redline). When I took it easy, it steadied around 220-240F. That was at 70-80F weather

02-07-2011, 08:08 PM	#8 (permalink)
daisuke149 My *** is famous! Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Alpharetta, GA Posts: 4,849 Drives: 2013 Boss 302 PW Rep Power: 31	yeah i would hit 220-250 just driving around. put in the biggest z1 cooler i could get and at the track i didnt go above 210 that i remember seeing.

02-07-2011, 08:44 PM	#9 (permalink)
tommyguns Track Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: New York Age: 65 Posts: 914 Drives: 370Z/Sport/Black/MT Rep Power: 17	I'm glad I didn't order mine yet, I was going to get th Z1 25 row but it looks like I will need the 34 row. Thanks again guys! __________________ 09 Sport / MB / 6sd / Nismo"R" Intake / Eibach Pro Kit / Z1 25 row cooler / JWT LW FW / New Short Block 3/11/11 /H&R 15fr 20rr/DBA 4000/FI CB with 12"res./Morel/JL/"Division"mod/SPC/EcuTek/M370/ZEX C SHOT/ART's/NRG

02-07-2011, 09:24 PM	#10 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 30	Get a block off plate for the oil cooler, oil will have a hard time to come up to temperature

02-07-2011, 11:26 PM	#13 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 30	Get a block off plate made, I regret for not doing it. I have a 25R and I have a tough time getting it up past 180F as soon as I get on the highway.

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