2023 Nissan Z external CSC retrofit on 370Z

viiv · 05-19-2022, 07:19 AM

I know that there are already a plethora of aftermarket options. But it would be interesting to see if it would be possible to retrofit the new Z external CSC onto the 370Z.

Ofcourse the big question is would it just bolt on, but if it did, it would be an interesting way to go using OEM parts.

Spooler · 05-19-2022, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by viiv

I know that there are already a plethora of aftermarket options. But it would be interesting to see if it would be possible to retrofit the new Z external CSC onto the 370Z.

Ofcourse the big question is would it just bolt on, but if it did, it would be an interesting way to go using OEM parts.

There are kits already available. Zspeed has one and ATS has one. We don't really talk about the one Z1 offers because of durability issues with the CSC itself. JarBlue didn't have much luck with his at all.

cv129 · 05-19-2022, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

There are kits already available. Zspeed has one and ATS has one. We don't really talk about the one Z1 offers because of durability issues with the CSC itself. JarBlue didn't have much luck with his at all.

Plus Z1 kit requires periodic manual adjustments, which isn’t needed with the ZSpeed kit.

fryzia23 · 05-19-2022, 05:48 PM

If Nissan couldn’t make a good internal csc for the 370z for so many years there is a good chance the new external design won’t be that much better. I wouldn’t bother to find out even if it’s possible especially there’s a quality aftermarket option.

viiv · 05-19-2022, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

There are kits already available. Zspeed has one and ATS has one. We don't really talk about the one Z1 offers because of durability issues with the CSC itself. JarBlue didn't have much luck with his at all.

Just to be clear, I am talking about the yet unreleased OEM parts for the external CSC from the new 2023 Z, not the CSC from Z1 Motorsports.

Spooler · 05-19-2022, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by viiv

Just to be clear, I am talking about the yet unreleased OEM parts for the external CSC from the new 2023 Z, not the CSC from Z1 Motorsports.

So, two very good options listed above.

nis350 · 05-19-2022, 07:57 PM

hopefully the new Z's external CSC is much easier to replace.

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Originally Posted by fryzia23

If Nissan couldn’t make a good internal csc for the 370z for so many years there is a good chance the new external design won’t be that much better. I wouldn’t bother to find out even if it’s possible especially there’s a quality aftermarket option.

Dreadnaught · 05-21-2022, 06:19 PM

If it's external I'd bet it's a lot less work than having to drop the transmission to do the internal style.

ZoomZ · 05-22-2022, 10:20 AM

How can it be an EXTERNAL CONCENTRIC cylinder? Help me picture that.

adjective: concentric
of or denoting circles, arcs, or other shapes which share the same center, the larger often completely surrounding the smaller.

I think you mean a traditional Linear Slave cylinder.

Here is the best info I found on it. As quoted by Z1:

"Although it isn't visible here we now know that the clutch hydraulics have been redesigned, moving the clutch slave cylinder back outside the transmission and solving the dreaded CSC problem that plagued the last generation Z."

https://www.instagram.com/p/CS9sMDKL...d-428c9a0ab91f

THE BULL · 05-23-2022, 03:45 PM

Looking at the external view of the engine I can't seem to find any inlet/outlet into the transmission for a pressure plate release mechanism

This being shown it looks like another variance of the CD/JK transmission
another loss in my opinion

SeeThruHead · 05-23-2022, 04:58 PM

ZoomZ · 05-24-2022, 01:06 PM

^^OK, so it's linear, not an EXTERNAL CSC as OP stated.

THE BULL · 06-09-2022, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ZoomZ

^^OK, so it's linear, not an EXTERNAL CSC as OP stated.

Location of the hole for the hose has also changed as well.

05-19-2022, 07:19 AM	#1 (permalink)
viiv Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Montreal Posts: 294 Drives: 20 Nissan 370Z PR M6 Rep Power: 34016	2023 Nissan Z external CSC retrofit on 370Z I know that there are already a plethora of aftermarket options. But it would be interesting to see if it would be possible to retrofit the new Z external CSC onto the 370Z. Ofcourse the big question is would it just bolt on, but if it did, it would be an interesting way to go using OEM parts. SeeThruHead likes this.

05-19-2022, 05:48 PM	#4 (permalink)
fryzia23 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: new jersey Posts: 452 Drives: 2011 MB 370Z NISMO Rep Power: 1246	If Nissan couldn’t make a good internal csc for the 370z for so many years there is a good chance the new external design won’t be that much better. I wouldn’t bother to find out even if it’s possible especially there’s a quality aftermarket option. sx moneypit likes this.

05-21-2022, 06:19 PM	#8 (permalink)
Dreadnaught Track Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Farmington, Utah Posts: 582 Drives: 14 SR 370z 6MT Rep Power: 10140	If it's external I'd bet it's a lot less work than having to drop the transmission to do the internal style. abm89 likes this. __________________ Ford Diesel and Heavy Line Technician at your service. Last edited by Dreadnaught; 05-22-2022 at 11:23 PM.

05-22-2022, 10:20 AM	#9 (permalink)
ZoomZ Track Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 761 Drives: 17' 370Z Nismo Rep Power: 40617	How can it be an EXTERNAL CONCENTRIC cylinder? Help me picture that. adjective: concentric of or denoting circles, arcs, or other shapes which share the same center, the larger often completely surrounding the smaller. I think you mean a traditional Linear Slave cylinder. Here is the best info I found on it. As quoted by Z1: "Although it isn't visible here we now know that the clutch hydraulics have been redesigned, moving the clutch slave cylinder back outside the transmission and solving the dreaded CSC problem that plagued the last generation Z." https://www.instagram.com/p/CS9sMDKL...d-428c9a0ab91f Last edited by ZoomZ; 05-22-2022 at 10:28 AM.

05-23-2022, 04:58 PM	#11 (permalink)
SeeThruHead Track Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Toronto Posts: 716 Drives: Red '18 Sport Manual Rep Power: 23498	__________________ My Build thread STH Build Plan Thread Images too big fix here

05-23-2022, 03:45 PM	#10 (permalink)
THE BULL Base Member Join Date: Apr 2021 Location: Florida Posts: 217 Drives: G37S Rep Power: 26848	Looking at the external view of the engine I can't seem to find any inlet/outlet into the transmission for a pressure plate release mechanism This being shown it looks like another variance of the CD/JK transmission another loss in my opinion

05-24-2022, 01:06 PM	#12 (permalink)
ZoomZ Track Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 761 Drives: 17' 370Z Nismo Rep Power: 40617	^^OK, so it's linear, not an EXTERNAL CSC as OP stated.

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