Ecutek tune

Danny.xl · 12-14-2019, 09:40 PM

I have a local VQ tuner here thats barely starting up. He is offering me a free tune/ sponsorship with me having to stay committed to him and bringing my car to him every-time i add a mod. We will be going the ecutek route, the only thing is i would have to pay for my own license. My question is, if i end up not liking the tune or he ends up being unreliable, can i take that same license somewhere else? Or will my license be locked in his ecutek master cable? He doesnt have a dyno so we would be doing data logging doing street pulls if that matters.

husam2012 · 12-14-2019, 10:05 PM

The license will stay on your ECU

ltullos · 12-15-2019, 11:40 AM

If he doesn't have a dyno, forget about him and find someone that does. There is too much to risk in having someone that is ill equipped to analyze and recover from their mistakes to try to save money on a damn tune. Their is no substitute for real experience over someone that is trying to fake it until they make it. This is the kind of decision we later call teachable moments.

JARblue · 12-15-2019, 12:33 PM

There is absolutely nothing wrong with a street tune from a competent tuner. There is no real need for a dyno when tuning a NA Z. That being said, OP's tuner sounds inexperienced to say the least. I would feel much more comfortable doing a remote tune with Seb at Specialty Z.

Memphis370Z · 12-15-2019, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

There is absolutely nothing wrong with a street tune from a competent tuner. There is no real need for a dyno when tuning a NA Z. That being said, OP's tuner sounds inexperienced to say the least. I would feel much more comfortable doing a remote tune with Seb at Specialty Z.

Hotrodz · 12-16-2019, 12:31 PM

What shop are you dealing with? Just curious mostly. I have some work completed by Precision Garage and Racing. They are very competent but Seb at Specialtyz does all my my tuning and is building my motor. He has a dyno if you want to make the drive or he can remote tune you. He is one of the best if not the Ecutek tuners and has remotely tuned Zs all of the world!

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Danny.xl · 12-16-2019, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

What shop are you dealing with? Just curious mostly. I have some work completed by Precision Garage and Racing. They are very competent but Seb at Specialtyz does all my my tuning and is building my motor. He has a dyno if you want to make the drive or he can remote tune you. He is one of the best if not the Ecutek tuners and has remotely tuned Zs all of the world!

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They go by CRG. Again, they are just starting. They’ve tuned built subies and EVos. They have tuned a few VQs via uprev including my cousins G37. He seems happy with it.
I’m ok with letting him tune my car. He will be giving me free retunes as well if i add ported manifolds or decide to go e85. Basically using my car as a guinea pig.

My main concern would be being able to take that same license and using it somewhere else like specialty Z if i dont like the work CRG does on my car

redondoaveb · 12-16-2019, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny.xl

They go by CRG. Again, they are just starting. They’ve tuned built subies and EVos. They have tuned a few VQs via uprev including my cousins G37. He seems happy with it.
I’m ok with letting him tune my car. He will be giving me free retunes as well if i add ported manifolds or decide to go e85. Basically using my car as a guinea pig.

My main concern would be being able to take that same license and using it somewhere else like specialty Z if i dont like the work CRG does on my car

You would be able to use you license but most tuners lock their tunes so you wouldn't be able to modify their tunes if you go to another tuner. I assume you would have to reflash it back to stock and start from scratch but I'm not positive about that.

Hotrodz · 12-16-2019, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb

You would be able to use you license but most tuners lock their tunes so you wouldn't be able to modify their tunes if you go to another tuner. I assume you would have to reflash it back to stock and start from scratch but I'm not positive about that.

^^^This in spades! No tuner is going to give up their recipes!!!

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BettyZ · 12-16-2019, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny.xl

They go by CRG. Again, they are just starting. They’ve tuned built subies and EVos. They have tuned a few VQs via uprev including my cousins G37. He seems happy with it.

I’m ok with letting him tune my car. He will be giving me free retunes as well if i add ported manifolds or decide to go e85. Basically using my car as a guinea pig.

My main concern would be being able to take that same license and using it somewhere else like specialty Z if i dont like the work CRG does on my car

Soooooo, my 2 cents:

If you needed heart surgery, would you want the most experienced cardiac surgeon you could find, or would you go to a teaching hospital bc its cheaper?

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DrBacon · 12-17-2019, 06:32 AM

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Soooooo, my 2 cents:

If you needed heart surgery, would you want the most experienced cardiac surgeon you could find, or would you go to a teaching hospital bc its cheaper?

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Terrible comparison. With the cost of American healthcare you'd be better off taking your chances at a teaching hospital, because if you actually survived due to an experienced surgeon you'd be in debt the rest of your life.

JARblue · 12-17-2019, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Danny.xl

Again, they are just starting.

FWIW, I did the same thing you are considering back in 2013. Don't do it.

I got a free tune for a guy that mostly does Miatas and wanted to break into the Z tuning market with Ecutek when it was brand new to the platform. He promised a lot and delivered on very little. He was too busy with the Miata platform and it was impossible to ever coordinate with him for additional tuning when I added mods or the dyno comparison that he promised me. Per our agreement I still owed him $175 for the actual license, but he couldn't even be bothered to return my phone calls to take my money when I tried to reach out to him.

I bought a cable so I can data log on my own and moved on to Seb at Specialty Z for all my tuning needs. Well worth it!!

JARblue · 12-17-2019, 09:10 AM

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Terrible comparison. With the cost of American healthcare you'd be better off taking your chances at a teaching hospital, because if you actually survived due to an experienced surgeon you'd be in debt the rest of your life.

Only if you actually have a job and make money. If you are broke, you won't pay a dime for your healthcare costs. Buddy of mine broke his neck just a year ago. Guy had $300 in his bank account and the federal government covered 100% of his $100K hospital bill.

12-14-2019, 09:40 PM	#1 (permalink)
Danny.xl Base Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 30 Drives: 2015 370z Rep Power: 7	Ecutek tune I have a local VQ tuner here thats barely starting up. He is offering me a free tune/ sponsorship with me having to stay committed to him and bringing my car to him every-time i add a mod. We will be going the ecutek route, the only thing is i would have to pay for my own license. My question is, if i end up not liking the tune or he ends up being unreliable, can i take that same license somewhere else? Or will my license be locked in his ecutek master cable? He doesnt have a dyno so we would be doing data logging doing street pulls if that matters.

12-14-2019, 10:05 PM	#2 (permalink)
husam2012 Track Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Michigan Posts: 549 Drives: 370Z Nismo Rep Power: 9469	The license will stay on your ECU wideglideleon likes this. __________________ Creator of the GTR TT Conversion Kit, NA Record Holder (401WHP) Ecutek Master Tuner (VQ37, VR30, VR38, B58, S55, S58) BTWTuning

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ltullos Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: DFW Posts: 312 Drives: 2016 Nismo Tech MT Rep Power: 14	If he doesn't have a dyno, forget about him and find someone that does. There is too much to risk in having someone that is ill equipped to analyze and recover from their mistakes to try to save money on a damn tune. Their is no substitute for real experience over someone that is trying to fake it until they make it. This is the kind of decision we later call teachable moments. BettyZ likes this. Last edited by ltullos; 12-15-2019 at 11:44 AM.

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JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 43 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684440	There is absolutely nothing wrong with a street tune from a competent tuner. There is no real need for a dyno when tuning a NA Z. That being said, OP's tuner sounds inexperienced to say the least. I would feel much more comfortable doing a remote tune with Seb at Specialty Z. SouthArk370Z, Hotrodz, Memphis370Z and 1 others like this. __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

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Hotrodz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684385	What shop are you dealing with? Just curious mostly. I have some work completed by Precision Garage and Racing. They are very competent but Seb at Specialtyz does all my my tuning and is building my motor. He has a dyno if you want to make the drive or he can remote tune you. He is one of the best if not the Ecutek tuners and has remotely tuned Zs all of the world! Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk JARblue, Rusty, wideglideleon and 1 others like this. __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\| Last edited by Hotrodz; 12-16-2019 at 12:36 PM.*

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