2013 oil cooler install

Dayzed · 03-02-2015, 01:48 PM

Has anyone installed an oil cooler on a 2012 -15 Z. I'm curious to know what the cooler's thermo-plate does with the water collar at the oil filter on these late models.

Does it just stack on or do you delete the water cooled plate?

Thanks,

Greg

Juan@Fontana · 03-02-2015, 02:00 PM

Hey Greg,

according to Stillen's instructions and how we have done it here; it stacks on. you'll have to use an Oil filter from a GMC truck in order to clear the frame rail, some customers order a non thermostatic plate from mishimoto (thinner profile) to be able to retain the OE Nissan Filter.

Dayzed · 03-02-2015, 04:19 PM

Thank you Juan.

Spooler · 03-03-2015, 12:24 PM

Look at Z1motorsports website, they have install instructions.

Super Werty · 03-03-2015, 12:30 PM

You can remove the factory cooler completely like I did with the fast intentions oil cooler.

This allows you to use a longer filter than oem and get rid of the useless 12+ cooler. Call Tony at fast intentions!

FLUJOKE · 03-05-2015, 03:04 AM

No point in using an aftermarket oil cooler with our oil "cooler" it's more of a stabilizer. Not only does it cool but it also gets the temps up to where it's suppose to be. Putting on a cooler without removing oem is a bandaid on a chest would. Just gonna cancel it out.

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bleunetizen · 03-07-2015, 06:19 AM

I have stillen large kit, and mine still over heats and goes into the limp mode after about 10~12min of running. ambient temp was only 23degC or so. I need to keep my aircon at max temp with fan on to help it run cooler

Might need a shield to create a box around the core to force more air fed through

FLUJOKE · 03-07-2015, 07:28 PM

Did u uninstall the oem oil stabilizer b4 installing the aftermarket oil cooler other wise they cancel each other out. What ur z u got?

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bleunetizen · 03-08-2015, 03:45 AM

nope I kept it in place.. how can it possibly cancel each other out? the oem sandwich runs coolant through it, which is cooler than oil when the car is driven hard.. and it in fact should help the oil reach the optimum temperature as oil takes ages to heat up compared to water.

the car runs too 'cold' when driven normally, it will never go over 90degC, hardly reachs 80degC while water is around 90 deg all the time. It probably will be even worse if I remove the stock sandwich "heater" haha (I dont think it should be considered as a cooler)

juld0zer · 03-08-2015, 08:04 AM

bleunetizen, i assume you have a 2011 or later model since you have the stock oil 'cooler'.

Not that i dont believe you but I find it hard to figure how you are overheating your oil at 23*c ambient. Even at 35*c or warmer, my oil doesn't go over 100*c and that's with just the stock cooler in heavy traffic so hardly any airflow in the engine bay. Even on a spirited drive on a warmish day i never encountered limp mode. i even simulated 108*c oil temp using a fixed resistor and there was no significant loss of power. Are you talking about full on limp mode or just a throttle lag?

But then in your later post you say the oil struggles to reach 80+? Over cooling the oil can be detrimental too!

bleunetizen · 03-08-2015, 08:09 AM

Oh sorry I didn't word it properly haha I meant 10min of track time, it won't see anywhere near that on the street even with very spirited back roads .

Yes I am not happy with the stilled kits thermostat, it has almost no difference than non thermostatic sandwich

I might make up a cover for the cooler so I can block the air for street driving

FLUJOKE · 03-17-2015, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bleunetizen

nope I kept it in place.. how can it possibly cancel each other out? the oem sandwich runs coolant through it, which is cooler than oil when the car is driven hard.. and it in fact should help the oil reach the optimum temperature as oil takes ages to heat up compared to water.

the car runs too 'cold' when driven normally, it will never go over 90degC, hardly reachs 80degC while water is around 90 deg all the time. It probably will be even worse if I remove the stock sandwich "heater" haha (I dont think it should be considered as a cooler)

Runs coolant through it which may be Warmer than what the oil cooler is bring in this increasing that temp. Don't believe me? Call tony at fast intentions and I told u so.

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bleunetizen · 03-18-2015, 07:15 PM

hmm interesting! that sounds pretty logical. I wonder what the temperature difference is between the inlet and outlet of front mounted oil coolers.

either way, I think creating some sort of shroud to box in the cooler probably will help a lot too, forcing more air fed through..

nvdave04 · 06-04-2015, 03:21 AM

I love my z1 34 row oil cooler -

Before - oil Cooler -

Same day after install - this is hwy 80mph cruise for 45 min

KatmanII · 06-04-2015, 11:05 AM

Even with the added thickness of a Mocal T-stat sandwich plate on top of the OEM temp stabilizer, I can fit up a PL 14610.

03-02-2015, 01:48 PM	#1 (permalink)
Dayzed Base Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: PA Posts: 7 Drives: 2013 base coupe Rep Power: 12	2013 oil cooler install Has anyone installed an oil cooler on a 2012 -15 Z. I'm curious to know what the cooler's thermo-plate does with the water collar at the oil filter on these late models. Does it just stack on or do you delete the water cooled plate? Thanks, Greg Slinky likes this.

03-02-2015, 02:00 PM	#2 (permalink)
Juan@Fontana Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Fontana Posts: 315 Drives: Z32 Rep Power: 21	Hey Greg, according to Stillen's instructions and how we have done it here; it stacks on. you'll have to use an Oil filter from a GMC truck in order to clear the frame rail, some customers order a non thermostatic plate from mishimoto (thinner profile) to be able to retain the OE Nissan Filter. Slinky likes this.

03-03-2015, 12:30 PM	#5 (permalink)
Super Werty Track Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: AZ Posts: 668 Drives: '13 Sport Rep Power: 13	You can remove the factory cooler completely like I did with the fast intentions oil cooler. This allows you to use a longer filter than oem and get rid of the useless 12+ cooler. Call Tony at fast intentions! FLUJOKE likes this. __________________ The Build

06-04-2015, 03:21 AM	#14 (permalink)
nvdave04 Base Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Covington LA- NOLA Posts: 108 Drives: 2013 370z base Rep Power: 12	I love my z1 34 row oil cooler - Before - oil Cooler - Same day after install - this is hwy 80mph cruise for 45 min Elmo370z likes this. __________________ 2013 370z base brilliant silver - AT -stillen supercharger kit -upgraded impeller, csf radiator,GTR injectors, walboro fuel pump, berks HFC, AAM S-line midpipe AAM S-line axleback - Z1 34 row oil cooler -stillen trans cooler, custom UpRev tune avantgarde m310 wheels

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Dayzed Base Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: PA Posts: 7 Drives: 2013 base coupe Rep Power: 12	Thank you Juan.

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03-05-2015, 03:04 AM	#6 (permalink)
FLUJOKE Track Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: earth Posts: 770 Drives: car Rep Power: 2067	No point in using an aftermarket oil cooler with our oil "cooler" it's more of a stabilizer. Not only does it cool but it also gets the temps up to where it's suppose to be. Putting on a cooler without removing oem is a bandaid on a chest would. Just gonna cancel it out. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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bleunetizen Base Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: NZ Posts: 138 Drives: BMW M6, 530i, 370z Rep Power: 11	I have stillen large kit, and mine still over heats and goes into the limp mode after about 10~12min of running. ambient temp was only 23degC or so. I need to keep my aircon at max temp with fan on to help it run cooler Might need a shield to create a box around the core to force more air fed through

03-07-2015, 07:28 PM	#8 (permalink)
FLUJOKE Track Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: earth Posts: 770 Drives: car Rep Power: 2067	Did u uninstall the oem oil stabilizer b4 installing the aftermarket oil cooler other wise they cancel each other out. What ur z u got? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

03-08-2015, 03:45 AM	#9 (permalink)
bleunetizen Base Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: NZ Posts: 138 Drives: BMW M6, 530i, 370z Rep Power: 11	nope I kept it in place.. how can it possibly cancel each other out? the oem sandwich runs coolant through it, which is cooler than oil when the car is driven hard.. and it in fact should help the oil reach the optimum temperature as oil takes ages to heat up compared to water. the car runs too 'cold' when driven normally, it will never go over 90degC, hardly reachs 80degC while water is around 90 deg all the time. It probably will be even worse if I remove the stock sandwich "heater" haha (I dont think it should be considered as a cooler)

03-08-2015, 08:04 AM	#10 (permalink)
juld0zer Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Sydney Posts: 428 Drives: 11 Nissan 370Z MB M6 Rep Power: 139	bleunetizen, i assume you have a 2011 or later model since you have the stock oil 'cooler'. Not that i dont believe you but I find it hard to figure how you are overheating your oil at 23c ambient. Even at 35c or warmer, my oil doesn't go over 100c and that's with just the stock cooler in heavy traffic so hardly any airflow in the engine bay. Even on a spirited drive on a warmish day i never encountered limp mode. i even simulated 108c oil temp using a fixed resistor and there was no significant loss of power. Are you talking about full on limp mode or just a throttle lag? But then in your later post you say the oil struggles to reach 80+? Over cooling the oil can be detrimental too!

03-08-2015, 08:09 AM	#11 (permalink)
bleunetizen Base Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: NZ Posts: 138 Drives: BMW M6, 530i, 370z Rep Power: 11	Oh sorry I didn't word it properly haha I meant 10min of track time, it won't see anywhere near that on the street even with very spirited back roads . Yes I am not happy with the stilled kits thermostat, it has almost no difference than non thermostatic sandwich I might make up a cover for the cooler so I can block the air for street driving

03-18-2015, 07:15 PM	#13 (permalink)
bleunetizen Base Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: NZ Posts: 138 Drives: BMW M6, 530i, 370z Rep Power: 11	hmm interesting! that sounds pretty logical. I wonder what the temperature difference is between the inlet and outlet of front mounted oil coolers. either way, I think creating some sort of shroud to box in the cooler probably will help a lot too, forcing more air fed through..

06-04-2015, 11:05 AM	#15 (permalink)
KatmanII Base Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Virginia Posts: 17 Drives: 2014 370Z PW Rep Power: 10	Even with the added thickness of a Mocal T-stat sandwich plate on top of the OEM temp stabilizer, I can fit up a PL 14610.