Decided against ceramic coating...

Machina · 12-11-2017, 12:57 AM

Synthetic wax with black magic eclipse wax on top seem ok as a decent option even thought I will have to re apply frequently (which I don’t mind)?

Asus_ · 12-12-2017, 03:19 AM

As long as you don't mind applying as frequently then the wax will do just fine. Ceramic coating is nice if you don't want to keep applying wax, makes in between washing easier too since stuff doesn't want to stick to the ceramic coating as easily.

I myself prefer the ceramic coating and will be doing cquarts ceramic coating in the spring.

If you'd like there is also a Ceramic/Wax hybrid product
Kamikaze Collection Infinity Wax Hybrid | Carnauba Wax + Ceramic Sealant Hybrid

I personally haven't used it but looks like its best of both

ZWorks · 12-13-2017, 04:26 PM

Surprised you went against it. I switch every customer from general sealant and waxes to coatings, especially when they see a demo in action of what self heal coating can do; https://www.facebook.com/zworklights...5858480666360/

Machina · 12-15-2017, 05:56 PM

I’ll look at that. Thanks for the info! Is it ok if there is already sealant and wax on the car? Or should I use dawn to remove it?

ChocSoldier · 12-30-2017, 09:24 PM

Why not do both? You can always layer on waxes and sealants on top of the coating, it never hurts to have more "protective layers".

~Edit - verify this first, research the coatings used.

Junkman2008 · 01-03-2018, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ChocSoldier

Why not do both? You can always layer on waxes and sealants on top of the coating, it never hurts to have more "protective layers".

NO YOU CAN'T.

Some coatings explicitly state that putting anything on top of them will not only cause an adverse reaction but will also void your warranty.

ChocSoldier · 01-12-2018, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Junkman2008

NO YOU CAN'T.

Some coatings explicitly state that putting anything on top of them will not only cause an adverse reaction but will also void your warranty.

Wasn't aware of this, which ones?

I was thinking more along the lines of carnauba wax on top of most general ceramic coatings (mostly safe, but I guess the disclaimer is to research first).

RyanWest · 01-31-2018, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ChocSoldier

Wasn't aware of this, which ones?

I was thinking more along the lines of carnauba wax on top of most general ceramic coatings (mostly safe, but I guess the disclaimer is to research first).

There is no need to apply a Wax or Sealant on top of a Ceramic Coating. It can disrupt the Hydrophobic ability of the coating.

bigaudiofanat · 01-31-2018, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Junkman2008

NO YOU CAN'T.

Some coatings explicitly state that putting anything on top of them will not only cause an adverse reaction but will also void your warranty.

Yep, furthermore you're actually lowering your hydrophobic properties of your coating. This goes for almost any wax over top of a coating. Now, there are toppers such as sonaz netsheild, Gyeon One, Kamikaze and polishangel these were made to increase the performance of your coating and for the most part are capable of working with each other. The ONLY company I know of that is recommending layering is AMMONYC but I've tried many times to ask him why he recommends it and how his products are able to work with one another. But no reply.

OP as much as I love waxing my car, you simply can not beat the protection of a coating. My advise would be to go to a coating and use a topper as your (monthly wax) go to.

12-11-2017, 12:57 AM	#1 (permalink)
Machina Base Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Memphis Posts: 36 Drives: 2013 camaro SS Rep Power: 8	Decided against ceramic coating... Synthetic wax with black magic eclipse wax on top seem ok as a decent option even thought I will have to re apply frequently (which I don’t mind)? Last edited by Machina; 12-11-2017 at 12:45 PM.

12-12-2017, 03:19 AM	#2 (permalink)
Asus_ Enthusiast Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: neverland. Posts: 348 Drives: 2011 370z T/S Rep Power: 1171	As long as you don't mind applying as frequently then the wax will do just fine. Ceramic coating is nice if you don't want to keep applying wax, makes in between washing easier too since stuff doesn't want to stick to the ceramic coating as easily. I myself prefer the ceramic coating and will be doing cquarts ceramic coating in the spring. If you'd like there is also a Ceramic/Wax hybrid product Kamikaze Collection Infinity Wax Hybrid \| Carnauba Wax + Ceramic Sealant Hybrid I personally haven't used it but looks like its best of both killrain likes this.

12-30-2017, 09:24 PM	#5 (permalink)
ChocSoldier Base Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 14 Drives: 09 370Z G41 M6 Rep Power: 8	Why not do both? You can always layer on waxes and sealants on top of the coating, it never hurts to have more "protective layers". ~Edit - verify this first, research the coatings used. Asus_ likes this. Last edited by ChocSoldier; 01-12-2018 at 10:58 PM. Reason: Disclaimer - research first as per below post

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12-13-2017, 04:26 PM	#3 (permalink)
ZWorks Base Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Carol Stream, IL Posts: 86 Drives: E60 M5 Rep Power: 10	Surprised you went against it. I switch every customer from general sealant and waxes to coatings, especially when they see a demo in action of what self heal coating can do; https://www.facebook.com/zworklights...5858480666360/

12-15-2017, 05:56 PM	#4 (permalink)
Machina Base Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Memphis Posts: 36 Drives: 2013 camaro SS Rep Power: 8	I’ll look at that. Thanks for the info! Is it ok if there is already sealant and wax on the car? Or should I use dawn to remove it?