Ap bbk

Originally Posted by Race_Tech

Well thank you for your well thought out post. Considering this is your first post we can all assume you are trying to hide behind another screen name and bash for no good reason.

If you paid any attention to the posts on this thread you would have easily come across posts that stated that no information would be disclosed as we have not paid advertisement fees for this forum at this time and did not intend to do so unless certain amount of interest was shown in a product like I have mentioned. So your wrong in 'your assumption' that I am here to pump my product and bash other companies. My goal is to see what, if any interest is out there for a 2 piece floating set up of rotors or full competition kit.

I also find it interesting to see that in addition to the above assumption you have so easily made that you also have made assumptions about this kit, who we are and what we do. Pretty ignorant if you ask me.

Your also wrong in your assumption that to offer something cheaper than the other options means that corners need to be cut or sub par parts need to be sold. Actually the parts we use are superior to Alcon and Stoptech. I can assure you that selling parts like this does not save me money. Selling kits like this saves you money as a consumer. We dont jack are prices up through the roof like Alcon, Stoptech and Brembo do. For the price that you can pay for an Alcon street kit we could put together a kit custom tailored to the 370z crowd. Featuring competition calipers, custom full floating rotors (which Alcon, Brembo & Stoptech do not offer BTW) and all associated hardware and brackets etc.

Sure ALMS, Grand AM prototypes use monobloc calipers. Whats your point. AP racing offers single piece monobloc, forged two piece, two piece cast, billet two piece calipers. They have the widest range of rotors and they have a healthy range of calipers as well. Alcon does not offer rotors in different vane counts nore does Stoptech and their calipers are off the shelf units with enlarged piston diameters which most of the time work against keeping factory bias.

Thanks for your comments.

Originally Posted by RockyRoad

That's exactly my point. You're trying to convince us to buy this kit and how it's superior to the others listed but there are no details.
--Im not trying to convince you to buy anything. That is a judgment you can make on your own. All I am doing is telling you that high quality parts can be made and sold for far cheaper than the competition does. I know this for a fact because I sell all of those components to people when they are appropriate or requested for. AP racing BBK is not suited for everyone for obvious reasons.

I'm not bashing but expressing my frustration in the unneeded mystery of your claims. Somehow your kit is superior to all others but you offer no evidence why. How is it that your kit is superior to the others? How are the components superior?
--I don’t see why you are so frustrated. I have explained more than once that that thread sole purpose was to gauge how many people would be interested in seeing a product like that available for purchase. I have also explained several times that no information would be disclosed as I am not yet a paid advertiser on the site and doing so would directly violate the agreement I have with the moderators and owners. I also stated in the thread THAT I CLOSED that information would be available for you and everyone else once the final product was complete and that also a new thread would be started for that purpose and also to allow people to participate in a GB to get good savings if they desired to purchase either one of the kits. The other thread served its purpose as a thread to see if their was interest and it no longer needed to be open because I had made the decision to become an advertiser on this site and also to go ahead with the project.

You've stated some blatantly incorrect information. For example, most of the vendors offer different vane counts... Alcon alone offers at least 48 and 72 off the top of my head. While I agree that StopTech compromises their piston sizes, AP, Alcon, and Brembo offer a wide variety.
--Specifically, Alcon does not make a wide range of rotors in anything other than 48 vane count. Also Alcon has ONE six piston option and they use on every single street kit they sell. They also throw together street kits with ridiculously sized rotors which further the bias from OEM specs. Stoptech uses smaller pistons and has several different calipers using different sized pistons but they also only sell kits with 48 vane count rotors and usually have to offset cooling capabilities by using excessively large rotors as well. Brembo out of the bunch which by the way is the brother company of AP Racing, sells a stiff caliper and offers rotors in various different sizes and vane count.
Case Study: x Company has created a BBk for the B8 S4 2010+ model, consisting of 370 or 390mm rotors and a 6 piston caliper with a piston area that is ~5% larger. The combination of these two things has increased the torque on that axle by ~20%. Keep in mind that factory tuners already run excessive front bias set ups because it is safer and easier for drivers to keep control essentially underbraking the rear axle. Team the kit up with a higher coefficient brake pad compound and that percentage of front bias increases further!


Hey I'm sure your kit will be priced attractively... but bear in mind that there are those of us shopping that know enough to want details. I have looked at these kits extensively and feel you are being misleading by claiming superiority without offering a shred of evidence. I spoke with reps from Brembo and Alcon and in fact really like them because they DO look at the stock car bias and select piston sizes that conform rather than just a generic kit for all cars with just different adapters (ala Tire Rack).

Not interested in a flame war, but buyer beware... The moment your thread to generate business received some negative thoughts, it's closed.... We don't know who you are, what your capacity is, etc... ...but want us to spend thousands with you? Do you offer service parts and technical support like the manufacturers? These are questions *I* would want answered before spending my money.