Upgrade sports Akebono for TT or are they OK?

shadow85 · 09-06-2017, 02:44 AM

Are the OEM sports package Akebono BBK already on my Sport model 370Z enough stopping power for a TT setup.

I won't be tracking my z anytime soon, just DD use and some spirited driving through out the week. So I wanted to know if the Akebono is enough stopping power for a 450-500whp Z?

If not, should I upgrade rotors, pads and SS line or spend the money elsewhere?

BGTV8 · 09-06-2017, 03:43 AM

Yes

KngScottieV · 09-06-2017, 03:54 AM

I'd upgrade the pads, go to stainless lines, and DOT4 fluid, but the sport brakes are really good.

shadow85 · 09-06-2017, 04:13 AM

Ok, I was thinking upgrade to SS line, Fluid and pads. Wouldn't also mind the Z1 Brake master brace cylinder for only $88, but seem to only be for LHD

Hotrodz · 09-06-2017, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by KngScottieV

I'd upgrade the pads, go to stainless lines, and DOT4 fluid, but the sport brakes are really good.

I have added brake cooling ducts as I do track and have never had an issue with stopping power or brake fade!

Chuck33079 · 09-06-2017, 08:23 AM

For DD use and occasional spirited driving, the stock sport brakes are fine. Fluid is a consumable, go ahead and swap that out. Lines only get you better pedal feel, so that's a personal call. For normal driving, the stock pads are very good. When you upgrade to more track-focused pads, often times they are not as good at regular driving. There's no magic bullet with pads. The ones that will take the best beating often don't stop worth a damn until you get some heat in them. There is a noticeable performance difference with two piece rotors, but that's mostly just from reducing unsprung weight.

Also, brakes don't stop the car. Tires stop the car. If you want shorter stopping distances, get stickier rubber.

2011 Nismo#91 · 09-06-2017, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

For DD use and occasional spirited driving, the stock sport brakes are fine. Fluid is a consumable, go ahead and swap that out. Lines only get you better pedal feel, so that's a personal call. For normal driving, the stock pads are very good. When you upgrade to more track-focused pads, often times they are not as good at regular driving. There's no magic bullet with pads. The ones that will take the best beating often don't stop worth a damn until you get some heat in them. There is a noticeable performance difference with two piece rotors, but that's mostly just from reducing unsprung weight.

Also, brakes don't stop the car. Tires stop the car. If you want shorter stopping distances, get stickier rubber.

Spooler · 09-06-2017, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Also, brakes don't stop the car. Tires stop the car. If you want shorter stopping distances, get stickier rubber.

Wider, Wider stickier rubber. Pads will overheat also. I would recommend upgrading them also. Which ones, well that is a personal choice.

Rusty · 09-06-2017, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

For DD use and occasional spirited driving, the stock sport brakes are fine. Fluid is a consumable, go ahead and swap that out. Lines only get you better pedal feel, so that's a personal call. For normal driving, the stock pads are very good. When you upgrade to more track-focused pads, often times they are not as good at regular driving. There's no magic bullet with pads. The ones that will take the best beating often don't stop worth a damn until you get some heat in them. There is a noticeable performance difference with two piece rotors, but that's mostly just from reducing unsprung weight.

Also, brakes don't stop the car. Tires stop the car. If you want shorter stopping distances, get stickier rubber.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spooler

Wider, Wider stickier rubber. Pads will overheat also. I would recommend upgrading them also. Which ones, well that is a personal choice.

Change tires, change pads. Change pads, change tires. That's easy enough to remember.

Hotrodz · 09-06-2017, 11:22 PM

It is amazing the difference in stopping distance and acceleration on soft compound tire. My re11's are pretty good but nothing like r888's and my initial impression of nt01's are they are better than r888's. Then again my nt01's are meaty 315 18 on 11x18 wheel. It takes me a few laps to get my braking points right because I tend to brake to early until I get it figured out.

shadow85 · 09-07-2017, 10:11 PM

Well thanks guys, very helpful info here. I will save the money onto some other stuff and just upgrade the SS lines, pads and fluid.

09-06-2017, 02:44 AM	#1 (permalink)
shadow85 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: South Australia, Austra Posts: 918 Drives: 15' 370Z A/T AMM TT Rep Power: 25	Upgrade sports Akebono for TT or are they OK? Are the OEM sports package Akebono BBK already on my Sport model 370Z enough stopping power for a TT setup. I won't be tracking my z anytime soon, just DD use and some spirited driving through out the week. So I wanted to know if the Akebono is enough stopping power for a 450-500whp Z? If not, should I upgrade rotors, pads and SS line or spend the money elsewhere?

09-06-2017, 03:43 AM	#2 (permalink)
BGTV8 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: 03350 Australia Posts: 1,514 Drives: 09 Nissan 370Z M6 Rep Power: 39973	Yes Rusty and Brendan like this.

09-06-2017, 03:54 AM	#3 (permalink)
KngScottieV Base Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Utah Age: 40 Posts: 155 Drives: 13 370z MagmaRed M6S Rep Power: 22	I'd upgrade the pads, go to stainless lines, and DOT4 fluid, but the sport brakes are really good. shadow85 likes this. __________________ 2013 Nissan 370z Magma Red Base w/Sport package 6speed. AAM intakes (S-line for now, still needs tuned), Berk HFC's, ARK DT-S cat-back, CJM baffled oil pan, and FI 34 row oil cooler.

09-06-2017, 08:23 AM	#6 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	For DD use and occasional spirited driving, the stock sport brakes are fine. Fluid is a consumable, go ahead and swap that out. Lines only get you better pedal feel, so that's a personal call. For normal driving, the stock pads are very good. When you upgrade to more track-focused pads, often times they are not as good at regular driving. There's no magic bullet with pads. The ones that will take the best beating often don't stop worth a damn until you get some heat in them. There is a noticeable performance difference with two piece rotors, but that's mostly just from reducing unsprung weight. Also, brakes don't stop the car. Tires stop the car. If you want shorter stopping distances, get stickier rubber. 2011 Nismo#91, EZT, Jayhovah and 3 others like this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

09-06-2017, 11:22 PM	#10 (permalink)
Hotrodz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684385	It is amazing the difference in stopping distance and acceleration on soft compound tire. My re11's are pretty good but nothing like r888's and my initial impression of nt01's are they are better than r888's. Then again my nt01's are meaty 315 18 on 11x18 wheel. It takes me a few laps to get my braking points right because I tend to brake to early until I get it figured out. __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

09-06-2017, 04:13 AM	#4 (permalink)
shadow85 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: South Australia, Austra Posts: 918 Drives: 15' 370Z A/T AMM TT Rep Power: 25	Ok, I was thinking upgrade to SS line, Fluid and pads. Wouldn't also mind the Z1 Brake master brace cylinder for only $88, but seem to only be for LHD

09-07-2017, 10:11 PM	#11 (permalink)
shadow85 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: South Australia, Austra Posts: 918 Drives: 15' 370Z A/T AMM TT Rep Power: 25	Well thanks guys, very helpful info here. I will save the money onto some other stuff and just upgrade the SS lines, pads and fluid.

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