need advice for air setup

scope22 · 07-27-2016, 10:27 AM

i want to go with bags over coils on the front only, can someone that has dealt with this recommend something thats reasonably priced and reliable?

wulfgvng · 07-27-2016, 10:54 AM

If you just want it for the front, do an air cup kit. You'll ride at your normal height and stiffness and whenver you need to get into an entrance you can just momentarily air up

scope22 · 07-27-2016, 02:21 PM

Is air cup much cheaper then bags?

KamiSpeed · 07-27-2016, 04:36 PM

Do you currently have coilovers?

If you dont, I would recommend an air cup kit. We sell the one from Fortune Auto.

Comes with a full set of coilovers and then 2 front air cups with 2" of lift.

NorthStyle · 07-27-2016, 04:40 PM

No, it's not. Actually, going with a complete air suspension kit is pretty similar in price to getting a cup kit setup with coilovers. My setup cost around $3k (the same price as the AirLift v2 for my Lexus). I have the Stance ISM cup kit with Super Sport + Pro coilovers and Swift springs. Honestly, with all the trouble I had with this I'd recommend that if you want a cup kit to go with either Fortune Auto or Platinum VIP's Phantom cup kit.

I purchased mine through THMotorsports and they were great to deal with. Stance, on the other hand, stopped responding to me once everything was installed and I found out the wiring was COMPLETELY wrong and my solenoid/valve is a pos.

scope22 · 07-27-2016, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NorthStyle

No, it's not. Actually, going with a complete air suspension kit is pretty similar in price to getting a cup kit setup with coilovers...

But how is handling on full bags? its my understanding that there are 3 options
1. bags
2. bags over coils
3. cups over coils

currently i have stance coilovers but was thinking about upgrading to kv4's and at the same time add bags or cups just not sure whats the best option considering price and handling

NorthStyle · 07-28-2016, 06:40 AM

From the people I know who have Airlift, most have been pretty pleased with the handling. I know Airlift actually posted a video a year or so back showing how their Air struts (adjustable bag over strut, basically #2 on your list) handled compared to traditional coilovers and they seemed to do well. Marketing hype obviously, but they've come a long way from a decade ago.

For the price, full air struts/bags will "usually" be cheapest (depending on what setup/management you go for). For cups, you have the cost of the coilovers, then on top of that the cost of the cup kit. For handling, the coilover/cup kit will handle the best.

scope22 · 07-28-2016, 12:46 PM

Ok, i will go with cups over coilovers, i know that is not the cheapest but i want good handling, thanks brah

07-27-2016, 10:27 AM	#1 (permalink)
scope22 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Roswell, GA Posts: 1,179 Drives: wife crazy Rep Power: 55	need advice for air setup i want to go with bags over coils on the front only, can someone that has dealt with this recommend something thats reasonably priced and reliable?

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KamiSpeed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 5,888 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 25	Do you currently have coilovers? If you dont, I would recommend an air cup kit. We sell the one from Fortune Auto. Comes with a full set of coilovers and then 2 front air cups with 2" of lift. __________________ KAMISPEED \| SHOP 370Z PERFORMANCE PARTS & MODS \| SUPPORT@KAMISPEED.COM KAMI SPEED REVIEWS \| FINANCE YOUR PARTS WITH US \| MILITARY & FIRST RESPONDERS PRE-ORDER DEPOSIT PROGRAM \| HKS MASTER SELLER

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scope22 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Roswell, GA Posts: 1,179 Drives: wife crazy Rep Power: 55	Ok, i will go with cups over coilovers, i know that is not the cheapest but i want good handling, thanks brah KamiSpeed likes this.

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07-27-2016, 10:54 AM	#2 (permalink)
wulfgvng Base Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Miami Posts: 160 Drives: '09 Touring Sport M6 Rep Power: 10	If you just want it for the front, do an air cup kit. You'll ride at your normal height and stiffness and whenver you need to get into an entrance you can just momentarily air up

07-27-2016, 02:21 PM	#3 (permalink)
scope22 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Roswell, GA Posts: 1,179 Drives: wife crazy Rep Power: 55	Is air cup much cheaper then bags?

07-27-2016, 04:40 PM	#5 (permalink)
NorthStyle A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Deutschland + SC/FL USA Posts: 1,259 Drives: 2011 370Z Nismo Rep Power: 24277	No, it's not. Actually, going with a complete air suspension kit is pretty similar in price to getting a cup kit setup with coilovers. My setup cost around $3k (the same price as the AirLift v2 for my Lexus). I have the Stance ISM cup kit with Super Sport + Pro coilovers and Swift springs. Honestly, with all the trouble I had with this I'd recommend that if you want a cup kit to go with either Fortune Auto or Platinum VIP's Phantom cup kit. I purchased mine through THMotorsports and they were great to deal with. Stance, on the other hand, stopped responding to me once everything was installed and I found out the wiring was COMPLETELY wrong and my solenoid/valve is a pos.

07-28-2016, 06:40 AM	#7 (permalink)
NorthStyle A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Deutschland + SC/FL USA Posts: 1,259 Drives: 2011 370Z Nismo Rep Power: 24277	From the people I know who have Airlift, most have been pretty pleased with the handling. I know Airlift actually posted a video a year or so back showing how their Air struts (adjustable bag over strut, basically #2 on your list) handled compared to traditional coilovers and they seemed to do well. Marketing hype obviously, but they've come a long way from a decade ago. For the price, full air struts/bags will "usually" be cheapest (depending on what setup/management you go for). For cups, you have the cost of the coilovers, then on top of that the cost of the cup kit. For handling, the coilover/cup kit will handle the best.