StopTech & Hawk Setup

Bshields22 · 05-11-2016, 03:41 PM

Hey guys,

Does anyone have the sport package brake setup using StopTech Slotted Rotors and Hawk Pads? If so how do you like them? I am thinking of getting that setup.

Which Hawk Pads do you recommend for Street and Track use?

People may chime in with Carbotech...I'm cool with that but also have a budget. I believe Carbotechs are much more expensive. Only looking to buy 1 set of pads (4 wheels), not have separate racing pads.

Let me know what you guys think!

JARblue · 05-11-2016, 03:47 PM

You're not the first person to ask this question ... but if you push your braking at all on the track, there is no brake pad that will be acceptable for you on both the street and the track.

Why are you opposed to having separate pads? The sport package calipers make it very easy to swap them out the night before or at track. Gotta pay to play, and separate pads for street and track will make you safer in both scenarios

jcosta79 · 05-11-2016, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Bshields22

Hey guys,

Does anyone have the sport package brake setup using StopTech Slotted Rotors and Hawk Pads? If so how do you like them? I am thinking of getting that setup.

Which Hawk Pads do you recommend for Street and Track use?

People may chime in with Carbotech...I'm cool with that but also have a budget. I believe Carbotechs are much more expensive. Only looking to buy 1 set of pads (4 wheels), not have separate racing pads.

Let me know what you guys think!

I do. I have the slotted rotors, SS lines, pads, and Motul RBF 600. I have to check the invoice to see exactly what pads I have but I only use my car for the street so I believe it's HPS pads. On the street, it's a big improvement over stock. On the stock setup I would put deposits on the rotors every time I pushed the car even slightly hard. Now with the StopTechs I have done a couple 140 mph stops with moderately hard pressure and they didn't skip a beat. Excellent brake feel and pressure.

JARblue · 05-11-2016, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jcosta79

I do. I have the slotted rotors, SS lines, pads, and Motul RBF 600. I have to check the invoice to see exactly what pads I have but I only use my car for the street so I believe it's HPS pads. On the street, it's a big improvement over stock. On the stock setup I would put deposits on the rotors every time I pushed the car even slightly hard. Now with the StopTechs I have done a couple 140 mph stops with moderately hard pressure and they didn't skip a beat. Excellent brake feel and pressure.

You sure they're not the HP+ pads? I've heard more than one person complain that the HPS don't hold up on the track.

OP, as long as you're not pushing your brakes too hard on the track, there are a good variety of pads available for use. Hawk HP+ pads are probably the best Hawk pads for you. But something like EBC Yellowstuff would probably do just fine as well.

Rusty · 05-11-2016, 05:05 PM

Yeah, the Yellowstuff pads are a good DD and light track pad. I've used them for about 3 years now. Just switch to the Carbotechs.

Bshields22 · 05-11-2016, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

You're not the first person to ask this question ... but if you push your braking at all on the track, there is no brake pad that will be acceptable for you on both the street and the track.

Why are you opposed to having separate pads? The sport package calipers make it very easy to swap them out the night before or at track. Gotta pay to play, and separate pads for street and track will make you safer in both scenarios

When using racing pads on stoptech rotors, are the rotors and street tires up for all that extra stopping power?

Bshields22 · 05-11-2016, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

Yeah, the Yellowstuff pads are a good DD and light track pad. I've used them for about 3 years now. Just switch to the Carbotechs.

What is the equivalent Carbotech pads to Hawk HP+? Which one is better and why? Looking for the longest lasting track/DD pads. If its out of budget Ill just go with the cheaper of the two. They both seem to satisfy what I need out of them. This is a weekend/track car, about 5k miles a year or less...

Rusty · 05-11-2016, 08:16 PM

What is the equivalent Carbotech pads to Hawk HP+? I don't know that answer.

As for the longest lasting track/DD pads. That depends on the track and your experience. The more track time you get. The faster you become. The shorter your pad life. I've known guys to change pads after each track day. Rotors play a part in this to. I have Racing Brake 2 piece rotors. Which is a HARD rotor. I haven't tracked yet with the Carbotech's and these rotors. So I may be changing the pads to something with more bit. Most of the other rotors out there are a softer iron.

jcosta79 · 05-11-2016, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

You sure they're not the HP+ pads? I've heard more than one person complain that the HPS don't hold up on the track.

OP, as long as you're not pushing your brakes too hard on the track, there are a good variety of pads available for use. Hawk HP+ pads are probably the best Hawk pads for you. But something like EBC Yellowstuff would probably do just fine as well.

Yes, I don't track the car. If you are going to track it, get the HP+

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Elmo370z · 05-12-2016, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Bshields22

Hey guys,

Does anyone have the sport package brake setup using StopTech Slotted Rotors and Hawk Pads? If so how do you like them? I am thinking of getting that setup.

Which Hawk Pads do you recommend for Street and Track use?

People may chime in with Carbotech...I'm cool with that but also have a budget. I believe Carbotechs are much more expensive. Only looking to buy 1 set of pads (4 wheels), not have separate racing pads.

Let me know what you guys think!

You spend 2k plus on your current mods and complaining about couple bucks difference on pads. You want pads to last stay off the track and just drive on the streets. These people are trying to give you advise.

Bshields22 · 05-12-2016, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z

You spend 2k plus on your current mods and complaining about couple bucks difference on pads. You want pads to last stay off the track and just drive on the streets. These people are trying to give you advise.

Are you under the impression I am rejecting advise? I'm just outlining my parameters. No matter what the need or want in life there is always going to be a cost limitation. Furthermore, the reason I am asking is because I have used OEM pads and rotors for several track days and am putting up some good times. I don't have a goal in mind to become a Joe Pro race car driver, just want a good set of pads and rotors on and off the track.

Bshields22 · 05-12-2016, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

What is the equivalent Carbotech pads to Hawk HP+? I don't know that answer.

As for the longest lasting track/DD pads. That depends on the track and your experience. The more track time you get. The faster you become. The shorter your pad life. I've known guys to change pads after each track day. Rotors play a part in this to. I have Racing Brake 2 piece rotors. Which is a HARD rotor. I haven't tracked yet with the Carbotech's and these rotors. So I may be changing the pads to something with more bit. Most of the other rotors out there are a softer iron.

Thanks Rusty! You always seem to reply to my posts with a solid perspective. Honestly, I think either combo will be fine based on some info ive read here and now online recently. If I have lasted this long with OEM rotors and pads I'm sure a small upgrade like this will yield the same longevity. I'm just a casual track day guy (3-4 times a year). Might start braking a LITTLE harder with a better setup. Props to those who go balls out and have deep "car parts budget" pockets.

Spooler · 05-12-2016, 02:51 PM

CarboTech's are great pads. I use XP8's all the way around. The only issue is the amount of brake dust you get. I have no issues with that.

JARblue · 05-12-2016, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bshields22

I'm just outlining my parameters.

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Furthermore, the reason I am asking is because I have used OEM pads and rotors for several track days and am putting up some good times. I don't have a goal in mind to become a Joe Pro race car driver, just want a good set of pads and rotors on and off the track.

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Originally Posted by Bshields22

I'm just a casual track day guy (3-4 times a year). Might start braking a LITTLE harder with a better setup. Props to those who go balls out and have deep "car parts budget" pockets.

So you go to the track 3-4 times a year. Got it.
So you have been reasonably pleased with OEM pads so far. Got it.
So you don't push your braking on the track. Got it.

This is all very relevant information that you did not provide in your OP

The Hawk HP+ pads should be fine for you. Lots of other pad options out there as well. Carbotech has the right idea though: they say their street pads are not suitable for any track use.

Bshields22 · 05-12-2016, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

So you go to the track 3-4 times a year. Got it.
So you have been reasonably pleased with OEM pads so far. Got it.
So you don't push your braking on the track. Got it.

This is all very relevant information that you did not provide in your OP

The Hawk HP+ pads should be fine for you. Lots of other pad options out there as well. Carbotech has the right idea though: they say their street pads are not suitable for any track use.

Sweet! Thanks

05-11-2016, 03:41 PM	#1 (permalink)
Bshields22 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Anaheim, CA Posts: 422 Drives: 2012 Black 370Z-R Rep Power: 697	StopTech & Hawk Setup Hey guys, Does anyone have the sport package brake setup using StopTech Slotted Rotors and Hawk Pads? If so how do you like them? I am thinking of getting that setup. Which Hawk Pads do you recommend for Street and Track use? People may chime in with Carbotech...I'm cool with that but also have a budget. I believe Carbotechs are much more expensive. Only looking to buy 1 set of pads (4 wheels), not have separate racing pads. Let me know what you guys think! __________________ 308 rwhp \| 252 rwtq \| Fast Intentions CBE 18" Res \| Stillen Gen 3 CAI \| EcuTek Tune \| Stoptech Slotted Rotors and Sport Pads \| KW V3 Coilovers \| SPL Upper Control Arms & Lower Rear Arms \| Seibon CF TS Hood \| Vossen CVT \| SPC Toe bolts

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JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 43 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684440	You're not the first person to ask this question ... but if you push your braking at all on the track, there is no brake pad that will be acceptable for you on both the street and the track. Why are you opposed to having separate pads? The sport package calipers make it very easy to swap them out the night before or at track. Gotta pay to play, and separate pads for street and track will make you safer in both scenarios __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

05-11-2016, 05:05 PM	#5 (permalink)
Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 68 Posts: 35,146 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684437	Yeah, the Yellowstuff pads are a good DD and light track pad. I've used them for about 3 years now. Just switch to the Carbotechs. Hotrodz and Bshields22 like this. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

05-11-2016, 08:16 PM	#8 (permalink)
Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 68 Posts: 35,146 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684437	What is the equivalent Carbotech pads to Hawk HP+? I don't know that answer. As for the longest lasting track/DD pads. That depends on the track and your experience. The more track time you get. The faster you become. The shorter your pad life. I've known guys to change pads after each track day. Rotors play a part in this to. I have Racing Brake 2 piece rotors. Which is a HARD rotor. I haven't tracked yet with the Carbotech's and these rotors. So I may be changing the pads to something with more bit. Most of the other rotors out there are a softer iron. JARblue likes this. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

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