Camber arms LOUD ??

osbornsm · 01-25-2016, 11:04 AM

I installed SPL front camber arms on the 370z this weekend.
Got an alignment done.
It sounds like my tires are rubbing on the fender liners.
- Or is this increased noise what happens when you replace the OEM control arm rubber bushings with aluminum bushings in the SPL?

Alignment Specs:
== Front ==

Camber: -2.0
Caster: 5.1
Toe: 0.08

== Rear ==

Camber: -1.8
Toe: 0.12

Wonka2581 · 01-25-2016, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by osbornsm

I installed SPL front camber arms on the 370z this weekend.
Got an alignment done.
It sounds like my tires are rubbing on the fender liners.
- Or is this increased noise what happens when you replace the OEM control arm rubber bushings with aluminum bushings in the SPL?

Alignment Specs:
== Front ==

Camber: -2.0
Caster: 5.1
Toe: 0.08

== Rear ==

Camber: -1.8
Toe: 0.12

Drive you car for a good bit and check to see if your tires are rubbing the fenders, if that's not the case its totally normal due to the metal bushings.

Hotrodz · 01-26-2016, 12:06 AM

My initial squeaks and clunks went away after I drove her really hard and replacing most of my bushings with SPL they started to squeak again after about six months so I took into my shop and had them lube everything as best they could and it all went away.

osbornsm · 01-26-2016, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hotrodz

My initial squeaks and clunks went away after I drove her really hard and replacing most of my bushings with SPL they started to squeak again after about six months so I took into my shop and had them lube everything as best they could and it all went away.

Innnnnnteresting... i shall see what the local shop says about lithium grease.

kenchan · 01-26-2016, 10:22 AM

white lithium grease works great for bushings. i use it all the time on my swaybars and stuff.

Hotrodz · 01-26-2016, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by osbornsm

Innnnnnteresting... i shall see what the local shop says about lithium grease.

The mechanic that works on my Z said the front A-arms reminded him of those on trophy trucks and that there is no go way to grease them but he did the best he could. He did the whole whole suspension as had number of squeaks and clunks, because SPL...$45 and done.

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cv129 · 01-26-2016, 01:00 PM

How loud are we talking about? Most likely it's nothing, but road noise increase from just the FUCA shouldn't be so much that causes concern...your car is still stock arms and springs all around except for the SPL FUCA yea?

I replaced a few arms and coilovers, then switch back to stock, then back to all SPL arms and coilovers. I could tell the difference in noise level, but nothing severe enough to make me think something is rubbing.

Rusty · 01-27-2016, 12:11 AM

I've never notice any increase in noise with my SPL arms and lower bearings. Maybe because of my exhaust set-up. I lube my bearings with a spray lube, because there is no grease fittings to do otherwise.

RN SHARK · 01-27-2016, 01:05 AM

I had a few clunks after my front SPL arms were installed, to the point where I brought it back to the shop. They checked it out (probably knowing nothing was wrong, but to shut me up) and informed me these are performance parts. NV&H are not part of performance. So yes, normal.

NoHyperbole · 01-27-2016, 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by osbornsm

Alignment Specs:
== Front ==

Camber: -2.0
Caster: 5.1
Toe: 0.08

== Rear ==

Camber: -1.8
Toe: 0.12

Your camber and toe numbers are almost exactly what most recommend (-2.0/-1.5 and .04/.08).

osbornsm · 01-27-2016, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cv129

How loud are we talking about? Most likely it's nothing, but road noise increase from just the FUCA shouldn't be so much that causes concern...your car is still stock arms and springs all around except for the SPL FUCA yea?

I replaced a few arms and coilovers, then switch back to stock, then back to all SPL arms and coilovers. I could tell the difference in noise level, but nothing severe enough to make me think something is rubbing.

Well crap... this is not helping ease my concern, i must say.

osbornsm · 01-27-2016, 10:13 AM

Is there a torque spec for the bolts that hold the A-arm on?

- I used the German torque spec of "gutentite".

kenchan · 01-27-2016, 02:45 PM

did you check the service manual? should use the same as factory, id assume.

osbornsm · 02-04-2016, 10:13 AM

::Partial Resolution::

Possible Issue
I had found the spherical bushing had been spun all the way clock-wise (on the arm side). I presume this had happened when the alignment guys were tinkering.

The Fix:
Re-centered the arm on the spherical bushing
Removed the bolts that hold the SPL arm to the frame and applied a liberal coating of White Lithium, then re-tightened said bolts.

The Result
I do believe i have significantly reduced the HUMMMMMMMMM noise i previously had.

Just a note for those who have noise issues like myself

01-25-2016, 11:04 AM	#1 (permalink)
osbornsm A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: WHAT Posts: 2,551 Drives: 2018 Camaro SS 1LE Rep Power: 424	Camber arms LOUD ?? I installed SPL front camber arms on the 370z this weekend. Got an alignment done. It sounds like my tires are rubbing on the fender liners. - Or is this increased noise what happens when you replace the OEM control arm rubber bushings with aluminum bushings in the SPL? Alignment Specs: == Front == Camber: -2.0 Caster: 5.1 Toe: 0.08 == Rear == Camber: -1.8 Toe: 0.12 __________________ 2018 Camaro SS 1LE (455hp) - 2011 Nissan 370z (333hp) - 2004 VW R32 (240hp) - 2000 Civic Si (160hp)

01-26-2016, 12:06 AM	#3 (permalink)
Hotrodz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684385	My initial squeaks and clunks went away after I drove her really hard and replacing most of my bushings with SPL they started to squeak again after about six months so I took into my shop and had them lube everything as best they could and it all went away. __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

01-26-2016, 10:22 AM	#5 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	white lithium grease works great for bushings. i use it all the time on my swaybars and stuff. DEpointfive0 and Hotrodz like this.

01-26-2016, 01:00 PM	#7 (permalink)
cv129 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,236 Drives: 09 Nismo, 16 Nismo Rep Power: 163995	How loud are we talking about? Most likely it's nothing, but road noise increase from just the FUCA shouldn't be so much that causes concern...your car is still stock arms and springs all around except for the SPL FUCA yea? I replaced a few arms and coilovers, then switch back to stock, then back to all SPL arms and coilovers. I could tell the difference in noise level, but nothing severe enough to make me think something is rubbing. BuckeyeZ likes this. __________________ Setrab \| RE-71 \| SPL \| JRZ \| Nismo \| ARK \| Whiteline \| RacingBrake \| CJM Oil Pan \| Ti shield

01-27-2016, 12:11 AM	#8 (permalink)
Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 68 Posts: 35,219 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684438	I've never notice any increase in noise with my SPL arms and lower bearings. Maybe because of my exhaust set-up. I lube my bearings with a spray lube, because there is no grease fittings to do otherwise. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

01-27-2016, 01:05 AM	#9 (permalink)
RN SHARK Track Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Delafield, WI Age: 44 Posts: 618 Drives: 09 370Z, 14 SRT GC Rep Power: 35	I had a few clunks after my front SPL arms were installed, to the point where I brought it back to the shop. They checked it out (probably knowing nothing was wrong, but to shut me up) and informed me these are performance parts. NV&H are not part of performance. So yes, normal. __________________ ___________ '09 6sp/Z1/PowerTrix/SPL/Swift/SRP/Whiteline/F.I.LTH&CBE/UpRev by Seb/CJM/Stillen/Ings+1/RJM/TrackSpec/Sparco/Motul/Wavetrac/Coolerworx/Verus/CraftSquare '14 SRT Grand Cherokee; '08 TL Type-S

01-27-2016, 10:13 AM	#12 (permalink)
osbornsm A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: WHAT Posts: 2,551 Drives: 2018 Camaro SS 1LE Rep Power: 424	Is there a torque spec for the bolts that hold the A-arm on? - I used the German torque spec of "gutentite". Last edited by osbornsm; 01-27-2016 at 02:04 PM.

01-27-2016, 02:45 PM	#13 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	did you check the service manual? should use the same as factory, id assume.

02-04-2016, 10:13 AM	#14 (permalink)
osbornsm A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: WHAT Posts: 2,551 Drives: 2018 Camaro SS 1LE Rep Power: 424	::Partial Resolution:: Possible Issue I had found the spherical bushing had been spun all the way clock-wise (on the arm side). I presume this had happened when the alignment guys were tinkering. The Fix: Re-centered the arm on the spherical bushing Removed the bolts that hold the SPL arm to the frame and applied a liberal coating of White Lithium, then re-tightened said bolts. The Result I do believe i have significantly reduced the HUMMMMMMMMM noise i previously had. Just a note for those who have noise issues like myself __________________ 2018 Camaro SS 1LE (455hp) - 2011 Nissan 370z (333hp) - 2004 VW R32 (240hp) - 2000 Civic Si (160hp)

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