Dual DXV3D installed & steering wheel wiring question

atomic aces · 06-14-2014, 02:31 PM

I installed the Dual DXV3D today. It took me a little under an hour using TenneeseeZ's DIY, so thanks to him. However I did not find it necessary to unplug the hazards, S-drive or AC panel plug.

Fitment is absolutely perfect and I love all of the features.

One question though: If you look at the last few pictures below of the steering wheel control wires coming out of the back of the head-unit, do I need a 3rd party adapter or is there a way to wire these direct?

Any input is appreciated.

Thanks.

RonRizz · 06-15-2014, 06:16 AM

No. You need the interface.

atomic aces · 06-15-2014, 09:17 AM

Thanks for the info. When this unit was listed on Crutchfield they had it under the "built in" filter, rather than "adapter required", but I realize that information is not always accurate.

Thanks again.

RonRizz · 06-15-2014, 12:48 PM

Edit my prior post... Dual's website claims that it has the programmable interface built in, as you stated, but the manual wiring diagram calls out those wires as steering wheel control interface input. Seems like a bit of a gray area to me. You can always call Dual directly, or email them....
I'm betting $$ you need that interface, though.

atomic aces · 06-16-2014, 09:51 AM

Thanks.

I'm sure this is covered elsewhere, but the smaller plug that I unplugged from the factory stereo during the swap, is that the steering wheel control?

The owners manual for the Dual states that you can just wire the new control wires to the factory wiring, but obviously they don't know what car you own. Upon powering everything back up, you then initiate a setup sequence where each button and it's function are programmed.

I will try giving them a call directly.

bigaudiofanat · 06-16-2014, 11:34 PM

You have to splice into the harness that your radio is getting power too, 3 wires in that harness are what you need.

Not sure how I feel about wiring a Dual radio directly into my computers network. Just my opinion.

RonRizz · 06-17-2014, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

Not sure how I feel about wiring a Dual radio directly into my computers network. Just my opinion.

For Fear of...........

bigaudiofanat · 06-17-2014, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RonRizz

For Fear of...........

Lower end brand head unit directly being connected into part of the z's network.

RonRizz · 06-17-2014, 08:29 PM

I got that part of it, but what exactly does the price or brand of the head unit have to do with hooking it up to the cars "network".... Are we afraid it will install a virus, and make it run like a Prius?
What could it possibly harm?
OP, disregard and carry on. Matt seems to be overthinking this one.

bigaudiofanat · 06-17-2014, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RonRizz

I got that part of it, but what exactly does the price or brand of the head unit have to do with hooking it up to the cars "network".... Are we afraid it will install a virus, and make it run like a Prius?
What could it possibly harm?
OP, disregard and carry on. Matt seems to be overthinking this one.

I have no problem carrying on with the install, just thinking if wired wrong it could damage the computers in the car. Of course I could be over thinking it.

eastwest2300 · 06-23-2014, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

Lower end brand head unit directly being connected into part of the z's network.

You cant say it any better than that.. I didnt even know Dual made double din head units..

Fountainhead · 06-23-2014, 02:37 PM

Hey, most steering wheel controls, SWC, are independent of the rest of the car. If the radio has "Programmable" SWC then there will be 3 wires, or 4. 1. +5V, 2. SWCA 3. SWCB 4. SWC GND.
Usually use +5, SWC A, and GND to the correct wires from the buttons on the Steering wheel and you're good to go....IF the head unit has programmable SWC. GM and other cars can use CAN enabled SWC, as well as some VW and Toyotas. Usually they're resistive ladder type, I'd check further.

06-15-2014, 06:16 AM	#2 (permalink)
RonRizz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Pine grove, Pa Posts: 2,136 Drives: 2 feet, 3 pedals Rep Power: 6775	No. You need the interface. __________________ P99rs Head Unit--- Amps- 2 Pioneer Prs800d --- Zapco ST1000MX---Zapco ST-4XSQ---- SI BM mk5 Subs---SI TM65v2 Midbass--- SI M3 mids--- SI M25 xbl2 tweeters ----- 2016 MECA street class 3rd place at world finals

06-15-2014, 12:48 PM	#4 (permalink)
RonRizz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Pine grove, Pa Posts: 2,136 Drives: 2 feet, 3 pedals Rep Power: 6775	Edit my prior post... Dual's website claims that it has the programmable interface built in, as you stated, but the manual wiring diagram calls out those wires as steering wheel control interface input. Seems like a bit of a gray area to me. You can always call Dual directly, or email them.... I'm betting $$ you need that interface, though. __________________ P99rs Head Unit--- Amps- 2 Pioneer Prs800d --- Zapco ST1000MX---Zapco ST-4XSQ---- SI BM mk5 Subs---SI TM65v2 Midbass--- SI M3 mids--- SI M25 xbl2 tweeters ----- 2016 MECA street class 3rd place at world finals

06-16-2014, 11:34 PM	#6 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 853	You have to splice into the harness that your radio is getting power too, 3 wires in that harness are what you need. Not sure how I feel about wiring a Dual radio directly into my computers network. Just my opinion. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

06-17-2014, 08:29 PM	#9 (permalink)
RonRizz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Pine grove, Pa Posts: 2,136 Drives: 2 feet, 3 pedals Rep Power: 6775	I got that part of it, but what exactly does the price or brand of the head unit have to do with hooking it up to the cars "network".... Are we afraid it will install a virus, and make it run like a Prius? What could it possibly harm? OP, disregard and carry on. Matt seems to be overthinking this one. __________________ P99rs Head Unit--- Amps- 2 Pioneer Prs800d --- Zapco ST1000MX---Zapco ST-4XSQ---- SI BM mk5 Subs---SI TM65v2 Midbass--- SI M3 mids--- SI M25 xbl2 tweeters ----- 2016 MECA street class 3rd place at world finals

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06-15-2014, 09:17 AM	#3 (permalink)
atomic aces Base Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: GA Posts: 54 Drives: '09 335i E92 6MT Rep Power: 11	Thanks for the info. When this unit was listed on Crutchfield they had it under the "built in" filter, rather than "adapter required", but I realize that information is not always accurate. Thanks again.

06-16-2014, 09:51 AM	#5 (permalink)
atomic aces Base Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: GA Posts: 54 Drives: '09 335i E92 6MT Rep Power: 11	Thanks. I'm sure this is covered elsewhere, but the smaller plug that I unplugged from the factory stereo during the swap, is that the steering wheel control? The owners manual for the Dual states that you can just wire the new control wires to the factory wiring, but obviously they don't know what car you own. Upon powering everything back up, you then initiate a setup sequence where each button and it's function are programmed. I will try giving them a call directly.

06-23-2014, 02:37 PM	#12 (permalink)
Fountainhead Track Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: FL Posts: 834 Drives: 2019 Civic Type R Rep Power: 14	Hey, most steering wheel controls, SWC, are independent of the rest of the car. If the radio has "Programmable" SWC then there will be 3 wires, or 4. 1. +5V, 2. SWCA 3. SWCB 4. SWC GND. Usually use +5, SWC A, and GND to the correct wires from the buttons on the Steering wheel and you're good to go....IF the head unit has programmable SWC. GM and other cars can use CAN enabled SWC, as well as some VW and Toyotas. Usually they're resistive ladder type, I'd check further.