6.5 Speaker Swap Questions

Elan · 06-18-2013, 08:10 PM

Hey Guys. I am about to replace the two 6.5 speakers because as you all know they suck. I am keeping the stock head unit (for now) and that leads me to a few questions. I apologize if they have been asked before, but I have been searching to avail.

1. To just replace the 6.5s, can I just use the stock wiring from the old speakers without changing anything?

2. I believe stock is 2-way speakers. If I were to get 3-way, do I have to add additional wires or am I am better off with sticking to the 2-way?

3. Are there any power limitations that I should be worried about?

Thanks guys. Sorry for being such a newbie. I don't do much electrical work let alone audio.

Looking at the Sony XS-GT1638F or Sound Ordnance P-65

Elan · 06-19-2013, 12:32 PM

Anyone with this kind of experience??

w0rM · 06-19-2013, 12:40 PM

Ideally, you'd probably want to run new speaker wire but it's not absolutely required. Fatter wires generally equal a little bit better levels but you're not likely to notice a difference if you aren't an audiophile with a high grade system.

The 2 way to 3 way doesn't really make a difference in wiring but it means you'll have less power for each of the speakers. That might degrade your bass performance a little.

Power limitations depend on speakers. Are you adding an amp or just running new speakers from a stock stereo? If you're just running the stock power, you don't really need to worry about it too much. Just make sure you don't get anything that is designed for crazy amounts of power, otherwise it'll under perform it's specs.

Elan · 06-19-2013, 02:22 PM

Thank you sir. You have answered all my questions.

Elan · 06-19-2013, 02:28 PM

Also if you don't mind me asking, what kind of difference should I expect to hear? I mean the stock sound system is pretty crappy and I want the music to sound a little crisper. I'm no audiophile, but the stock speakers are just unbearable.

kentstuh · 06-19-2013, 05:30 PM

I just did what you did.. and i can say that.... the stocks sounds better on stock HU.
i did it with the Pioneer TS-D1602R with stock headunit.. bass is gone...

kentstuh · 06-19-2013, 05:37 PM

soo yeah.. lol i just bought the following items ( eBay )
320734775106 (Custom 370Z sub box )
330850516588 ( speaker mounting brackets )
400410117925 ( Pioneer GM-D9601 Amp )
271214593593 ( TS-W3002D2 12' Sub )
271218764977 ( Sub Grill )
140662408483 ( back up camera )
271225295724 ( AppRadio 3 ) XD
300919691653 ( Pioneer TS-D1602R )

total around 1,000.00 ( lol a bit more over for wiring )

bigaudiofanat · 06-19-2013, 06:46 PM

OP

#1 You are going to want to run new speaker wire to everything to bypass the factory crossovers and make installation much simpler.

#2. As said the more speakers you have the less each one will get, I'd recommend running a 2 way COMPONENT set.

#3 Yes your stock head unit is probably putting out around 9-15 watts at best, a new head unit will at least do 22 watts and a new amp will do anywhere between 50-150 and beyond.

Your going to hear a bit better highs but your mids and lows will diminish a lot. I recommend running a new head unit and or amp.

Elan · 06-19-2013, 06:51 PM

Ok guys I appreciate the input. Looks like I'll wait to upgrade the head unit then grab speakers to go along with it.

w0rM · 06-19-2013, 10:30 PM

Couldn't agree more with bigaudiofanat.

I spent about $1000 on my system when it was all said and done and it was worth every penny. It's not going to blow anyone away but it's a good quality system. My basic setup is in my signature.

Elan · 06-19-2013, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by w0rM

Couldn't agree more with bigaudiofanat.

I spent about $1000 on my system when it was all said and done and it was worth every penny. It's not going to blow anyone away but it's a good quality system. My basic setup is in my signature.

I think when I have the money, I will invest in a system like yours. I just wish they would throw in a system like the Vettes have. My body has a Z51 package C6 and it has amazing quality and bass. Oh well. I didn't buy the car for listening to music.

.c2 · 06-23-2013, 06:14 AM

I upgraded my speakers and it is a lot crisper than the stock ones. Just used the stock wiring, and I'm sure it will sound a lot better if you run new wiring but I'm not an audiophile so it works for me. So to answer your question you can use the stock wiring if you want a bit crisper sound, and you can run a new wire if you really do want it sounding that much better but it takes that much more effort. In the end it's up to you :P I hated my stock non touring speakers, and my new ones are much better even with the crappy stock wiring.

Wicked CAS · 06-24-2013, 04:57 PM

Please check out the 370Z Stage 1 , stage 2 and stage 3 systems I have available.

Stage 1 system I can do an upgrade to HERTZ ESK165 components for less the $50 let me know if it catches your interest...

I also can make the packages available without the sub and enclosure.

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06-18-2013, 08:10 PM	#1 (permalink)
Elan Track Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Alpharetta, GA Posts: 906 Drives: Airplanes Rep Power: 16	6.5 Speaker Swap Questions Hey Guys. I am about to replace the two 6.5 speakers because as you all know they suck. I am keeping the stock head unit (for now) and that leads me to a few questions. I apologize if they have been asked before, but I have been searching to avail. 1. To just replace the 6.5s, can I just use the stock wiring from the old speakers without changing anything? 2. I believe stock is 2-way speakers. If I were to get 3-way, do I have to add additional wires or am I am better off with sticking to the 2-way? 3. Are there any power limitations that I should be worried about? Thanks guys. Sorry for being such a newbie. I don't do much electrical work let alone audio. Looking at the Sony XS-GT1638F or Sound Ordnance P-65 __________________ 2009 370Z NISMO #477 \| AAM Competition Short Tails \| AAM Competition HFCs \| K&N Typhoon CAI \| Kenwood DPX300U \| Rockford Fosgate PRIME R300-4 \| Rockford Fosgate Punch P165 \| Rockford Fosgate Punch P300-12 \| Polk Audio db1001 \| 15% Tints \| GTR Start Button \| Last edited by Elan; 06-18-2013 at 08:14 PM.

06-19-2013, 12:32 PM	#2 (permalink)
Elan Track Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Alpharetta, GA Posts: 906 Drives: Airplanes Rep Power: 16	Anyone with this kind of experience?? __________________ 2009 370Z NISMO #477 \| AAM Competition Short Tails \| AAM Competition HFCs \| K&N Typhoon CAI \| Kenwood DPX300U \| Rockford Fosgate PRIME R300-4 \| Rockford Fosgate Punch P165 \| Rockford Fosgate Punch P300-12 \| Polk Audio db1001 \| 15% Tints \| GTR Start Button \|

06-19-2013, 12:40 PM	#3 (permalink)
w0rM A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2012 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,198 Drives: 2015 Corvette Z06 Rep Power: 36	Ideally, you'd probably want to run new speaker wire but it's not absolutely required. Fatter wires generally equal a little bit better levels but you're not likely to notice a difference if you aren't an audiophile with a high grade system. The 2 way to 3 way doesn't really make a difference in wiring but it means you'll have less power for each of the speakers. That might degrade your bass performance a little. Power limitations depend on speakers. Are you adding an amp or just running new speakers from a stock stereo? If you're just running the stock power, you don't really need to worry about it too much. Just make sure you don't get anything that is designed for crazy amounts of power, otherwise it'll under perform it's specs. Elan likes this. __________________ \| SOLD September 14th, 2013 \| My Build Journal

06-19-2013, 02:22 PM	#4 (permalink)
Elan Track Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Alpharetta, GA Posts: 906 Drives: Airplanes Rep Power: 16	Thank you sir. You have answered all my questions. __________________ 2009 370Z NISMO #477 \| AAM Competition Short Tails \| AAM Competition HFCs \| K&N Typhoon CAI \| Kenwood DPX300U \| Rockford Fosgate PRIME R300-4 \| Rockford Fosgate Punch P165 \| Rockford Fosgate Punch P300-12 \| Polk Audio db1001 \| 15% Tints \| GTR Start Button \|

06-19-2013, 02:28 PM	#5 (permalink)
Elan Track Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Alpharetta, GA Posts: 906 Drives: Airplanes Rep Power: 16	Also if you don't mind me asking, what kind of difference should I expect to hear? I mean the stock sound system is pretty crappy and I want the music to sound a little crisper. I'm no audiophile, but the stock speakers are just unbearable. __________________ 2009 370Z NISMO #477 \| AAM Competition Short Tails \| AAM Competition HFCs \| K&N Typhoon CAI \| Kenwood DPX300U \| Rockford Fosgate PRIME R300-4 \| Rockford Fosgate Punch P165 \| Rockford Fosgate Punch P300-12 \| Polk Audio db1001 \| 15% Tints \| GTR Start Button \|

06-19-2013, 05:30 PM	#6 (permalink)
kentstuh Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: San Gabriel Age: 35 Posts: 254 Drives: 12 Nissan 370Z MG M6 Rep Power: 13	I just did what you did.. and i can say that.... the stocks sounds better on stock HU. i did it with the Pioneer TS-D1602R with stock headunit.. bass is gone...

06-19-2013, 05:37 PM	#7 (permalink)
kentstuh Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: San Gabriel Age: 35 Posts: 254 Drives: 12 Nissan 370Z MG M6 Rep Power: 13	soo yeah.. lol i just bought the following items ( eBay ) 320734775106 (Custom 370Z sub box ) 330850516588 ( speaker mounting brackets ) 400410117925 ( Pioneer GM-D9601 Amp ) 271214593593 ( TS-W3002D2 12' Sub ) 271218764977 ( Sub Grill ) 140662408483 ( back up camera ) 271225295724 ( AppRadio 3 ) XD 300919691653 ( Pioneer TS-D1602R ) total around 1,000.00 ( lol a bit more over for wiring )

06-19-2013, 06:46 PM	#8 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 853	OP #1 You are going to want to run new speaker wire to everything to bypass the factory crossovers and make installation much simpler. #2. As said the more speakers you have the less each one will get, I'd recommend running a 2 way COMPONENT set. #3 Yes your stock head unit is probably putting out around 9-15 watts at best, a new head unit will at least do 22 watts and a new amp will do anywhere between 50-150 and beyond. Your going to hear a bit better highs but your mids and lows will diminish a lot. I recommend running a new head unit and or amp. w0rM likes this. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

06-19-2013, 06:51 PM	#9 (permalink)
Elan Track Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Alpharetta, GA Posts: 906 Drives: Airplanes Rep Power: 16	Ok guys I appreciate the input. Looks like I'll wait to upgrade the head unit then grab speakers to go along with it. __________________ 2009 370Z NISMO #477 \| AAM Competition Short Tails \| AAM Competition HFCs \| K&N Typhoon CAI \| Kenwood DPX300U \| Rockford Fosgate PRIME R300-4 \| Rockford Fosgate Punch P165 \| Rockford Fosgate Punch P300-12 \| Polk Audio db1001 \| 15% Tints \| GTR Start Button \|

06-19-2013, 10:30 PM	#10 (permalink)
w0rM A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2012 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,198 Drives: 2015 Corvette Z06 Rep Power: 36	Couldn't agree more with bigaudiofanat. I spent about $1000 on my system when it was all said and done and it was worth every penny. It's not going to blow anyone away but it's a good quality system. My basic setup is in my signature. __________________ \| SOLD September 14th, 2013 \| My Build Journal

06-23-2013, 06:14 AM	#12 (permalink)
.c2 Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: BC Canada Posts: 414 Drives: 09 370z MB 6MT Rep Power: 13	I upgraded my speakers and it is a lot crisper than the stock ones. Just used the stock wiring, and I'm sure it will sound a lot better if you run new wiring but I'm not an audiophile so it works for me. So to answer your question you can use the stock wiring if you want a bit crisper sound, and you can run a new wire if you really do want it sounding that much better but it takes that much more effort. In the end it's up to you :P I hated my stock non touring speakers, and my new ones are much better even with the crappy stock wiring. __________________ Instagram // Build Thread Amuse / Mines / Bride / Momo / KW / Hotchkis / Motordyne / Invidia / Injen

06-24-2013, 04:57 PM	#13 (permalink)
Wicked CAS The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Kingston, NH. Posts: 469 Drives: 98 Supra 1036 RWHP Rep Power: 15	Please check out the 370Z Stage 1 , stage 2 and stage 3 systems I have available. Stage 1 system I can do an upgrade to HERTZ ESK165 components for less the $50 let me know if it catches your interest... I also can make the packages available without the sub and enclosure. Wicked C.A.S.::Search results click above __________________ www.wickedcas.com Call: 603-642-4222 E-mail: Wickedcas@aol.com *DIRECT AUTHORIZED DEALER FOR:* AUDISON, HERTZ, JL AUDIO, JL AUDIO MARINE, KENWOOD EXCELON, COMPUSTAR, DIAMOND AUDIO, CACHE, ARC AUDIO, K40, PASSPORT ESCORT.

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