Question about audio.....

discusfan · 11-06-2016, 04:16 PM

So, I swung by my local Custom Sounds dealer to give me some advise on replacing the front components in my new/used Z....
That was my first mistake, no need to go into detail. Won't be back ever...........

So my question to you experts is, having two 12 inch subs in the back, and a JL XD400 driving the fronts, is Focal really worth the bucks? What about JL or Polk or Alpine? What would be a good replacement?

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alangoooo · 11-06-2016, 04:38 PM

This thread will probably get moved to the Audio section.

I'm not an expert, but from my personal experience, 2 12's in the back is way too much and it will be hard to find a box with enough air space for each sub unless you get one that's custom built. I'm sure it varies from sub to sub, but when I had two 12" Sundowns, I was restricting both of them too much; I had to downsize and remove one all together to get better bass.

Are you going for SPL or SQL?

discusfan · 11-06-2016, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alangoooo

This thread will probably get moved to the Audio section.

I'm not an expert, but from my personal experience, 2 12's in the back is way too much and it will be hard to find a box with enough air space for each sub unless you get one that's custom built. I'm sure it varies from sub to sub, but when I had two 12" Sundowns, I was restricting both of them too much; I had to downsize and remove one all together to get better bass.

Are you going for SPL or SQL?

Did not see the audio section. Sorry.
I did not build this system, just trying to replace some blown components on a custom build. The subs are built into the trunk. Here is a pic of the subs.20161022_234503.jpg

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white37014 · 11-07-2016, 12:21 PM

Its all up to your own personal preference and what you want, IMO two 12s would be way to much, but some people want that real "thump thump" I went with a single jl 10 and its just enough for what I want some added bass to the music.

YzGyz · 11-07-2016, 04:11 PM

If the system is already built and sounding decent, I would simply do the easiest thing, change the blown drivers. Why rebuild and redesign when it's not needed. Focal are with it yes. They cost a lump buy they sound nice. Ali the cars at home have a sound system and the focal stands out.

YzGyz

scope22 · 11-07-2016, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by white37014

Its all up to your own personal preference and what you want, IMO two 12s would be way to much, but some people want that real "thump thump" I went with a single jl 10 and its just enough for what I want some added bass to the music.

Same here single JL 10 and its way more than i'll ever need.

discusfan · 11-07-2016, 08:49 PM

Well, I pulled the trigger on some JL ZR 6 1/2 components. Seemed to fit the amp nicely, and it had Z in it. Just kidding... Will post a review once installed...

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white37014 · 11-07-2016, 11:32 PM

Nice! Those zrs should really sing, I went with c5 components and they sound awesome.

zmanelite · 11-08-2016, 12:12 AM

From my experience
Focal were really nice but needed LOTS of power to get them to there potential

2 - 12's tho . you will need more than 1 set of components to keep up the vocals

bigaudiofanat · 11-09-2016, 01:28 PM

I personally say yes they're worth the money. However which model focals? That's another question in itself. I run a set of focal krx2's and love them.

discusfan · 11-09-2016, 02:20 PM

It has KRX2's currently. Blown ones.....

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discusfan · 11-14-2016, 08:20 PM

They came in today!!!

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discusfan · 11-23-2016, 09:42 PM

Well, I just finished the install.
The tweeters are a little taller than I expected. Spacer/adapters will have to be thinned.
So, compared to the Focals, they hold their own in mids, but, the highs are quite a bit different. More subdued...
Still an absolute bad *** stereo system in an absolute bad *** sports car!!!!!!!!

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bigaudiofanat · 12-06-2016, 09:15 AM

I'm a little late to the party but, higher end speakers can be worth it DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU WANT. Also it would be a good idea to amp them. Focal is more for the audio file and seeing that you have 2 12's you really want something that will keep up with them in the decibel levels. Your JL's are a good choice

Also if you have blown speakers already, i'd highly recommend you get your gains set properly and make sure you aren't using things like bass boost and LOUD settings, these can send clipped or boosted signals to your speakers causing damage to them.

discusfan · 12-06-2016, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

I'm a little late to the party but, higher end speakers can be worth it DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU WANT. Also it would be a good idea to amp them. Focal is more for the audio file and seeing that you have 2 12's you really want something that will keep up with them in the decibel levels. Your JL's are a good choice

Also if you have blown speakers already, i'd highly recommend you get your gains set properly and make sure you aren't using things like bass boost and LOUD settings, these can send clipped or boosted signals to your speakers causing damage to them.

Yes , totally need to have the system tuned/gains set... The JL's are driven by a JL 4600, so plenty of power.... The Focal's were partially blown when I got them, so no idea what happened.

The JL's are sweet, and clean, but they seem to be a class or so lower than the Focal's. Once I got them out of the car, you can visibly see a difference in the methods and materials used to make them. Given what I have seen and what I hear, my honest opinoin, for what it is worth, the Focal's, even if they are not the newest version, they still stand above the brand new JL's..........
Grabbed a new OEM carpet, now to find an upholstery shop to cover that ugly fiber board they used........

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11-06-2016, 04:16 PM	#1 (permalink)
discusfan Base Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 31 Drives: 09 370Z RD M6 Rep Power: 9	Question about audio..... So, I swung by my local Custom Sounds dealer to give me some advise on replacing the front components in my new/used Z.... That was my first mistake, no need to go into detail. Won't be back ever........... So my question to you experts is, having two 12 inch subs in the back, and a JL XD400 driving the fronts, is Focal really worth the bucks? What about JL or Polk or Alpine? What would be a good replacement? Sent from my SM-G935T using Tapatalk

11-06-2016, 04:38 PM	#2 (permalink)
alangoooo Base Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Norcal Posts: 111 Drives: 2016 Nismo 370z M6 Rep Power: 52	This thread will probably get moved to the Audio section. I'm not an expert, but from my personal experience, 2 12's in the back is way too much and it will be hard to find a box with enough air space for each sub unless you get one that's custom built. I'm sure it varies from sub to sub, but when I had two 12" Sundowns, I was restricting both of them too much; I had to downsize and remove one all together to get better bass. Are you going for SPL or SQL? Last edited by alangoooo; 11-06-2016 at 04:43 PM.

11-07-2016, 04:11 PM	#5 (permalink)
YzGyz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Houston Posts: 1,449 Drives: 2010 Nismo Rep Power: 63	If the system is already built and sounding decent, I would simply do the easiest thing, change the blown drivers. Why rebuild and redesign when it's not needed. Focal are with it yes. They cost a lump buy they sound nice. Ali the cars at home have a sound system and the focal stands out. YzGyz __________________ http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...gyzs-turn.html YzGyz

11-08-2016, 12:12 AM	#9 (permalink)
zmanelite Track Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Anaheim Posts: 753 Drives: 370 Z Nismo Rep Power: 37	From my experience Focal were really nice but needed LOTS of power to get them to there potential 2 - 12's tho . you will need more than 1 set of components to keep up the vocals YzGyz likes this. __________________ Instagram @zmanscm

11-09-2016, 01:28 PM	#10 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 853	I personally say yes they're worth the money. However which model focals? That's another question in itself. I run a set of focal krx2's and love them. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

11-07-2016, 12:21 PM	#4 (permalink)
white37014 Base Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Pa Posts: 114 Drives: 14 370 base sport 6t Rep Power: 11	Its all up to your own personal preference and what you want, IMO two 12s would be way to much, but some people want that real "thump thump" I went with a single jl 10 and its just enough for what I want some added bass to the music.

11-07-2016, 08:49 PM	#7 (permalink)
discusfan Base Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 31 Drives: 09 370Z RD M6 Rep Power: 9	Well, I pulled the trigger on some JL ZR 6 1/2 components. Seemed to fit the amp nicely, and it had Z in it. Just kidding... Will post a review once installed... Sent from my SM-G935T using Tapatalk

11-07-2016, 11:32 PM	#8 (permalink)
white37014 Base Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Pa Posts: 114 Drives: 14 370 base sport 6t Rep Power: 11	Nice! Those zrs should really sing, I went with c5 components and they sound awesome.

11-09-2016, 02:20 PM	#11 (permalink)
discusfan Base Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 31 Drives: 09 370Z RD M6 Rep Power: 9	It has KRX2's currently. Blown ones..... Sent from my SM-G935T using Tapatalk

11-14-2016, 08:20 PM	#12 (permalink)
discusfan Base Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 31 Drives: 09 370Z RD M6 Rep Power: 9	They came in today!!! Sent from my SM-G935T using Tapatalk 2011 Nismo#91 and white37014 like this.

11-23-2016, 09:42 PM	#13 (permalink)
discusfan Base Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 31 Drives: 09 370Z RD M6 Rep Power: 9	Well, I just finished the install. The tweeters are a little taller than I expected. Spacer/adapters will have to be thinned. So, compared to the Focals, they hold their own in mids, but, the highs are quite a bit different. More subdued... Still an absolute bad * stereo system in an absolute bad * sports car!!!!!!!! Sent from my SM-G935T using Tapatalk

12-06-2016, 09:15 AM	#14 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 853	I'm a little late to the party but, higher end speakers can be worth it DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU WANT. Also it would be a good idea to amp them. Focal is more for the audio file and seeing that you have 2 12's you really want something that will keep up with them in the decibel levels. Your JL's are a good choice Also if you have blown speakers already, i'd highly recommend you get your gains set properly and make sure you aren't using things like bass boost and LOUD settings, these can send clipped or boosted signals to your speakers causing damage to them. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

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