Thank you to Chris Karl and Z1 Motorsports

kevr6 · 10-30-2010, 07:46 PM

Still no trophy for 2nd place 370Z from ZCON!
I try not get into the bashing thing! But I do like folks to know what's going on. They overlooked my car at ZCON even after I went to the judges tent to make sure they had a chance to judge it before I left the grounds. I never saw any judges at all the whole day so that was why I did that. I was given the all clear from the head judge. (who then knocked my smart phone onto the ground damaging it because he talks with his hands flailing)
At the banquet Chris Karl never announced 2nd or 3rd for 370Z like he did with all the other models. I went up to him at his table and knelt down & asked while showing a pic of my car from my phone. He then said I should stay to the end because he's place me second. I stayed till the end and waited in line and then there were no trophies for the 370Z group. He asked me to write my info on a random floating piece of paper on the podium. I didn't have a lot of faith in this of course.

Then when he posted the results online, his stock NISMO 370Z is listed as second place 370Z. I immediately email him and we go back and forth and then the results were then changed again.
Now the 1 st place winners were Z1 motorsport's white 370Z. The Z1 guys didn't understand why their car beat my car based on visual comparison. Bottom line is that they already have a relationship with ZCON through Vendor participation. (Also a shop shouldn't be allowed to compete, unfair access to mods) I accepted that and would be happy for 2nd place though.

Well weeks passed and I went to Z1 to buy some things and they had their trophies!! They assumed I had mine. I at that moment I realized that I probably won't be getting a trophy.
So as you can see this is has been a very annoying experience. Chris Karl has let me down.

After staying late at the ZCON banquet, per his recommendation, I drove home late overnight in a storm and hit road kill at highway speeds damaging my front lip. If I left earlier I wouldn't have had that issue!

Now that Robert has gotten his trophy it makes me even more annoyed!

Chris Karl's article in Nissan Sport magazine also has a picture of his car and his wife's car. Annoyed me more once again!

When you put the time and money in something and your not treated fairly you tend to be annoyed!

Now at Z1 Nationals I was actually judged and took home some awards!! I would be happy with no awards as long as I am given the opportunity and I am judged.

The judges at ZCON were to busy waiting in line to get autographs and do spectator things!! I used to judge VW/AUDI shows for years and you did have to work if you volunteered. I also feel if you not part of the core ZCON clicks you will not be treated fairly. A lot of these older guys all new each other and you could feel it heavily!

Enough ranting from me!

Robert_Nash · 10-30-2010, 09:58 PM

Keep us updated on what does or does not happen with your trophy.

With a little luck maybe you'll get it before the Savannah convention next July (well, we can always hope anyway).

zinistr · 10-31-2010, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevr6

Still no trophy for 2nd place 370Z from ZCON!

Hi Kevin - I'm checking into the status of your trophy. As I mentioned in the update thread all trophies (to my knowledge) have landed or will shortly. Please feel free to drop a note to Todd Wagner at zfixers@cox.net.

I already left him a VM and email this evening stating yours hadn't arrived. Will PM you an update once I hear something back.

Chris
440-343-1664

kevr6 · 11-01-2010, 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zinistr

Hi Kevin - I'm checking into the status of your trophy. As I mentioned in the update thread all trophies (to my knowledge) have landed or will shortly. Please feel free to drop a note to Todd Wagner at zfixers@cox.net.

I already left him a VM and email this evening stating yours hadn't arrived. Will PM you an update once I hear something back.

Chris
440-343-1664

OK, I'll keep an eye out.

josh@z1 · 11-01-2010, 08:49 AM

Chris,
Ever figure out why a car that was not there was able to place in the people's choice car show? and ever figure out who was supposed to be in the #1 spot for 6th gen Z Car? Site still says TBD. I would assume KEVR6 should be there??

zinistr · 11-01-2010, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by josh@z1

Chris,
Ever figure out why a car that was not there was able to place in the people's choice car show? and ever figure out who was supposed to be in the #1 spot for 6th gen Z Car? Site still says TBD. I would assume KEVR6 should be there??

Josh - not sure which car you're referring to? Give me a shout.

Chris
440-343-1664

Robert_Nash · 11-01-2010, 07:23 PM

Maybe this will help?

6th Gen.
#70 1st - TBD
(wrong # on card)
2nd - Z1
Motorsports,
#6001
3rd - Bob
Armentrout,

From: Z Car Club Association - 40th Anniversary of the Z.** July 28 - August 1, 2010 in Nashville, TN

zinistr · 11-01-2010, 07:35 PM

Quote:

6th Gen.
#70 1st - TBD
(wrong # on card)
2nd - Z1
Motorsports,
#6001
3rd - Bob
Armentrout,

Not sure. Have a message into Josh to understand his question and try to help...

Robert_Nash · 11-07-2010, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevr6

OK, I'll keep an eye out.

Hey Kevin...anything received or any word from anyone this past week?

kevr6 · 11-07-2010, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert_Nash

Hey Kevin...anything received or any word from anyone this past week?

Negative!! Nothing received!

Robert_Nash · 11-08-2010, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevr6

Negative!! Nothing received!

I'm surprised.

10-30-2010, 07:46 PM	#1 (permalink)
kevr6 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: N.W. Atlanta Posts: 1,515 Drives: '09 Graphite 370Z 6M Rep Power: 667	Still no trophy for 2nd place 370Z from ZCON! I try not get into the bashing thing! But I do like folks to know what's going on. They overlooked my car at ZCON even after I went to the judges tent to make sure they had a chance to judge it before I left the grounds. I never saw any judges at all the whole day so that was why I did that. I was given the all clear from the head judge. (who then knocked my smart phone onto the ground damaging it because he talks with his hands flailing) At the banquet Chris Karl never announced 2nd or 3rd for 370Z like he did with all the other models. I went up to him at his table and knelt down & asked while showing a pic of my car from my phone. He then said I should stay to the end because he's place me second. I stayed till the end and waited in line and then there were no trophies for the 370Z group. He asked me to write my info on a random floating piece of paper on the podium. I didn't have a lot of faith in this of course. Then when he posted the results online, his stock NISMO 370Z is listed as second place 370Z. I immediately email him and we go back and forth and then the results were then changed again. Now the 1 st place winners were Z1 motorsport's white 370Z. The Z1 guys didn't understand why their car beat my car based on visual comparison. Bottom line is that they already have a relationship with ZCON through Vendor participation. (Also a shop shouldn't be allowed to compete, unfair access to mods) I accepted that and would be happy for 2nd place though. Well weeks passed and I went to Z1 to buy some things and they had their trophies!! They assumed I had mine. I at that moment I realized that I probably won't be getting a trophy. So as you can see this is has been a very annoying experience. Chris Karl has let me down. After staying late at the ZCON banquet, per his recommendation, I drove home late overnight in a storm and hit road kill at highway speeds damaging my front lip. If I left earlier I wouldn't have had that issue! Now that Robert has gotten his trophy it makes me even more annoyed! Chris Karl's article in Nissan Sport magazine also has a picture of his car and his wife's car. Annoyed me more once again! When you put the time and money in something and your not treated fairly you tend to be annoyed! Now at Z1 Nationals I was actually judged and took home some awards!! I would be happy with no awards as long as I am given the opportunity and I am judged. The judges at ZCON were to busy waiting in line to get autographs and do spectator things!! I used to judge VW/AUDI shows for years and you did have to work if you volunteered. I also feel if you not part of the core ZCON clicks you will not be treated fairly. A lot of these older guys all new each other and you could feel it heavily! Enough ranting from me! __________________ *Beware...* Daily Sliding In My ZLED!

10-30-2010, 09:58 PM	#2 (permalink)
Robert_Nash Track Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Middle TN/Savannah GA Posts: 762 Drives: '14 Q60IPL/'14Armada Rep Power: 18	Keep us updated on what does or does not happen with your trophy. With a little luck maybe you'll get it before the Savannah convention next July (well, we can always hope anyway). __________________ Robert -My Basset Hound Is Smarter Than Your Honor Student and Barack Obama -

11-01-2010, 08:49 AM	#5 (permalink)
josh@z1 The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Temple Posts: 178 Drives: Non Turbo S Rep Power: 17	Chris, Ever figure out why a car that was not there was able to place in the people's choice car show? and ever figure out who was supposed to be in the #1 spot for 6th gen Z Car? Site still says TBD. I would assume KEVR6 should be there?? __________________ Z1 Motorsports will beat any advertised price on Nissan OEM Parts! www.370ZParts.com (770) 838-7777 x303 -- Josh@Z1Motorsports.com -- AOL IM - JoshAtZ1

11-01-2010, 07:23 PM	#7 (permalink)
Robert_Nash Track Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Middle TN/Savannah GA Posts: 762 Drives: '14 Q60IPL/'14Armada Rep Power: 18	Maybe this will help? 6th Gen. #70 1st - TBD (wrong # on card) 2nd - Z1 Motorsports, #6001 3rd - Bob Armentrout, From: Z Car Club Association - 40th Anniversary of the Z. July 28 - August 1, 2010 in Nashville, TN __________________ Robert** -My Basset Hound Is Smarter Than Your Honor Student and Barack Obama -

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