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Romanowski 01-03-2015 04:16 PM

OEM - RAYS 19 | 20MM Spacer & Lugnuts
 
So I've been reading a lot of threads regarding this and so far it's not looking too good. I was hoping someone can chime in with some feedback.

Apparently the GTR & 370z use the mag shank style of lug nuts. There aren't any options to buy they in a gloss black.

I have a '09 with Rays, and wanted to do 2 things.

1) 20MM spacers all around (Open to recommendations)
2) Black lug nuts

shaun66 01-03-2015 04:19 PM

20mm spacers all around is perfect that is what I run. Don't know about lug nuts, you could just spray paint them or plasti dip to see if you like the look.

Romanowski 01-03-2015 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shaun66 (Post 3072023)
20mm spacers all around is perfect that is what I run. Don't know about lug nuts, you could just spray paint them or plasti dip to see if you like the look.

Thanks.

Regarding the spacers, do I need anything besides the spacers for fitment? Do the bolts reach?


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Will these lugnuts work?

24 Piece 12x1 25 Black Mag Style Lugs 13 16" Head 68" Shank Width Wheel Nuts | eBay

shaun66 01-03-2015 04:50 PM

I bought these, no need to change studs or do anything just bolt on and go.

CNC Aluminum Bolt-On Wheel Spacers (20mm, 25mm, & 30mm)

Aviator44 01-04-2015 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Cru3l (Post 3072025)
Thanks.

Regarding the spacers, do I need anything besides the spacers for fitment? Do the bolts reach?


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Will these lugnuts work?

24 Piece 12x1 25 Black Mag Style Lugs 13 16" Head 68" Shank Width Wheel Nuts | eBay

Do not buy bolt ons. Do it correctly and replace the studs.

http://www.z1motorsports.com/g37_370...oducts_id=4215

cooltoy 01-04-2015 10:43 AM

Paint or powder coat the lug nuts.

4TthAnnyZ 01-04-2015 10:50 AM

There's really no harm in bolt-ons, that's what most people do. The studs used in most aftermarket spacers are of the same quality if not better than the OEM wheel studs. As long as everything is tight, you are fine.

Aviator44 01-04-2015 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by 4TthAnnyZ (Post 3072409)
There's really no harm in bolt-ons, that's what most people do. The studs used in most aftermarket spacers are of the same quality if not better than the OEM wheel studs. As long as everything is tight, you are fine.

This is the result of using bolt ons with OEM wheels (courtesy of Joe at Zspeed). That is definitely harm.

http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/...ps416c2e19.jpg

Merv 01-04-2015 11:11 AM

Is that with 20mm spacers?
There's a way around that with using Bolton spacers,but I know a lot of people don't like to mess with the way things are from the factory. You can cut off the first 3,4 or 5 mm of the lug with a grinder. You'll still have ample amount of shank on the lug for your lug nut to go back on should you want to go back to having no spacer. Nobody sees the ends of the lugs anyway.

Aviator44 01-04-2015 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Merv (Post 3072426)
Is that with 20mm spacers?
There's a way around that with using Bolton spacers,but I know a lot of people don't like to mess with the way things are from the factory. You can cut off the first 3,4 or 5 mm of the lug with a grinder. You'll still have ample amount of shank on the lug for your lug nut to go back on should you want to go back to having no spacer. Nobody sees the ends of the lugs anyway.

Yes it is.

Romanowski 01-04-2015 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aviator44 (Post 3072401)
Do not buy bolt ons. Do it correctly and replace the studs.

Hub Centric Wheel Spacers & Extended Studs

Done I ordered this morning.

Sidenote: Nice A-10 Avatar.

4TthAnnyZ 01-05-2015 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aviator44 (Post 3072411)
This is the result of using bolt ons with OEM wheels (courtesy of Joe at Zspeed). That is definitely harm.

http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/...ps416c2e19.jpg

That's the result of not getting a big enough spacer, not the fact that its a bolt-on. Theres nothing wrong with using bolt-ons if done properly, which obviosuly wasn't in that photo. I have bolt-ons with zero issues not unlike hundreds of other people. But if you really wanna pound your wheel studs out and replace them be my guest, should be fun when you want to put stock wheels back on. :o

Aviator44 01-05-2015 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4TthAnnyZ (Post 3073204)
That's the result of not getting a big enough spacer, not the fact that its a bolt-on. Theres nothing wrong with using bolt-ons if done properly, which obviosuly wasn't in that photo. I have bolt-ons with zero issues not unlike hundreds of other people. But if you really wanna pound your wheel studs out and replace them be my guest, should be fun when you want to put stock wheels back on. :o

This occurs with 20mm and under. Being that 20mm is one of the most popular sizes on the Z, it's relevant information for those who may read this thread.

The studs are not difficult to change. Using that as an argument to not do things correctly is ridiculous.

Spacers in general are not the correct way of doing things, but that's a whole different discussion.

There's a reason most wheel/tire shops will not touch a vehicle with spacers on it.

Merv 01-05-2015 11:07 PM

Lol. I didn't know bolt on spacers are the incorrect way of doing it. Guess I been putting my life at risk these past 5 years of using them. :ughdance:
Either way works fine

Aviator44 01-06-2015 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merv (Post 3073564)
Lol. I didn't know bolt on spacers are the incorrect way of doing it. Guess I been putting my life at risk these past 5 years of using them. :ughdance:
Either way works fine

Wheels with the proper offset are the correct way of doing it.

370zgarage 01-09-2015 02:33 AM

does anyone have any pictures of what the stock rays look like with the 25mm spacers installed? A front to rear photo or rear to front so I can see the tire in comparison to the fender.

Zbrah 01-09-2015 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aviator44 (Post 3072411)
This is the result of using bolt ons with OEM wheels (courtesy of Joe at Zspeed). That is definitely harm.

http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/...ps416c2e19.jpg

Aviator is correct. I have the Z1 20mm all around, studded, and noticed those indentation on both my front and rear wheels when I changed tires. Besides those marks, no other issues whatsoever, absolutely no vibration at any type of driving I do. Good prep and careful installation is key to avoid vibration some ppl experienced with spacers, IMO. I have been driven with these spacers for 10K+ miles. Hoping some day to switch out to proper offset wheels so I can lose the spacers. They're really heavy!

Silly Rabbit 03-17-2015 09:05 AM

I changed over from winter to summer wheels\tires and noticed the same thing. I use stock 18s for my winter tires and didn't have any marks on the back on them, but on my stock 19s, I have the same marks as pictured. This is with 20mm bolt on spacers on the front. Rear is 25mm bolt on and there isn't any issue. I plan to cut the stock studs.

Corona 03-17-2015 09:53 AM

The issue picture doesn't impact everyone. There are variances in the stock rims. Some fitments will require filing down of the stock studs to accommodate the 20 MM spacers while others can fit them with no problem.

If you can fit it with no issues, great, otherwise I personally wouldn't want to file down my OEM parts for spacers. Thats just me. I have DRM 20 MM spacers on all for corners and they went on without modification. I am taking them off as I am going with rims with proper offset now.


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