HRE Wheels, Volk equivalents?

BlackZeda · 02-04-2015, 11:41 AM

I am about to order the 303M's in black, but I realized there are three different flavors: Satin, Textured and Gloss. Since I am keeping the car the same stock black, my feeling is that the Gloss black is the way to go. Is there any reason why I should consider the other two?

FairladyZ10PG · 02-04-2015, 12:27 PM

I'd go with satin + CF center cap

LAVA · 02-07-2015, 07:13 PM

Classic Series - 305 | HRE Performance Wheels

Z34gallore · 02-11-2015, 02:51 PM

SSR CV01 are very similar to the HRE. I like the way the spokes are on this wheel more than the HRE.

Masterbeatty · 02-12-2015, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z34gallore

SSR CV01 are very similar to the HRE. I like the way the spokes are on this wheel more than the HRE.

But SSR wheels are no where near the quality and strength as HRE. Ive seen race cars run them and been to their open houses. Comparing SSR to HRE is like comparing Honda with a ZONDA. Even volk wheels are not up to the level of quality as HRE, close but not quite there.

BlackZeda · 02-12-2015, 09:40 AM

I think the guy from the tire shop is going to have an orgasm when they arrive. BTW, I finally made the decision to go with the 19" Satin Black 303M. I am going with stock size so I can swap wheels with my OEM Rays if I eventually start tracking my Z.

Z34gallore · 02-12-2015, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Masterbeatty

But SSR wheels are no where near the quality and strength as HRE. Ive seen race cars run them and been to their open houses. Comparing SSR to HRE is like comparing Honda with a ZONDA. Even volk wheels are not up to the level of quality as HRE, close but not quite there.

Not that I'm saying HREs aren't any good but SSRs are also run on race cars.. Sooooo they are probably just as strong..

BlackZeda · 02-12-2015, 02:15 PM

The approach I took when trying to decide on wheels was first to find "the look" I liked and then wanted to make sure that they would perform (feel) as well as my stock rims. Since my stock rims are Rays, it was a higher bar than usual.

I wasn't opposed to any other brand and think that all that were recommended in this thread are of high quality.

Thanks for the recommendations and opinions!

I am glad that we all have a little bit different tastes for sure, which makes for a variety of cool Zs to look at.

BlackZeda · 02-13-2015, 04:51 PM

Ordered Satin Black 303Ms in the stock NISMO size with the carbon fiber HRE center caps. It is a 4 week wait since they are truly custom. They will have a fresh set of Michelin Pilot Super Sports when I put them on for the summer.

I am very excited...stay tuned for pics

Fishey · 02-14-2015, 06:47 PM

There are a bunch of differences when it comes to wheels and generally I would say most people the look really is the only thing that matters.

However, if your one of those people that are really into performance some things make the small differences.

First, Volk/Rays has one of the most impressive build processes I have ever seen for a wheel. Unlike a HRE/Forgeline they forged the wheel center into its desired shape. This has a few advantages as it allows for an extremely strong spoke design. This is because you never have to cut across the crystalline structure of the aluminum. However, they are limited on designs so weight/strength really isn't improved in this process. They seem reluctant to do any additional machining beyond the original forging.

The Second thing about forging the center of the wheel and then attaching the inner and outer rim shells is that you end up with no spoke support on the outer lip. You will also find a lot of designs they use like the TE-37 have a nice 45 before it attaches to the rim-shell making it much more likely to flex. There is very little difference between most of the volk monoblock designs and a 3pc wheel when it comes to stiffness as a result.

I don't know alot about the SSR process but its seems like it wouldn't have the same strength as a high pressure forged billet. I really do not know much beyond the fact they don't use a traditional forging process.

When you look at an HRE or Forgline 1pc design almost all of them bring the spoke flush to the outter edge of the wheel. Which some people don't find as attractive but if your looking for outside lip you can always run a 3pc design. The real advantage to the 1pc is that you get this extra stiffness.

BlackZeda · 02-15-2015, 09:04 PM

Scratch the carbon fiber center caps. We thought they were a $150 upcharge. They are...per wheel.

They are nice, but that just seems excessive. I am an idiot, I will probably get them later

axmea? · 02-15-2015, 09:21 PM

HRE = prestige. Is that what you're after? Less price for Volks and get more for your money.

BlackZeda · 02-16-2015, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by axmea?

HRE = prestige. Is that what you're after? Less price for Volks and get more for your money.

I already have the best looking Rays for the 370Z IMO! It will be nice to have two sets of good rims. First thing I will do is get them repaired and powder coated. Maybe get a set of track tires

BlackZeda · 02-26-2015, 03:07 PM

Here is an interesting HRE Wheels video:

BlackZeda · 03-18-2015, 01:50 PM

Since I wasn't sure which center cap that I would be getting with my wheels on order, I called up HRE to see. Customer service picked up the phone immediately, and then I was transferred to a voice mailbox. Two minutes later my call was returned and Antonio had no problem switching from the red, white and blue to the black and silver caps. I also requested if they could send me some pictures of the wheels during production, which was no problem, and which I will share here.

I have heard that their customer service is excellent, which was very evident during this encounter.

Feeling pretty good with my decision to go with them.

Stay tuned!

02-04-2015, 12:27 PM	#32 (permalink)
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02-07-2015, 07:13 PM	#33 (permalink)
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02-11-2015, 02:51 PM	#34 (permalink)
Z34gallore Base Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Torrance, CA Posts: 18 Drives: 370z veryracingRED Rep Power: 11	SSR CV01 are very similar to the HRE. I like the way the spokes are on this wheel more than the HRE. __________________ "I'm trying to go legit. Trying to get on the NIRA circuit."

02-12-2015, 02:15 PM	#38 (permalink)
BlackZeda A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Englewood, CO Posts: 1,109 Drives: 19 Audi TT RS Rep Power: 22	The approach I took when trying to decide on wheels was first to find "the look" I liked and then wanted to make sure that they would perform (feel) as well as my stock rims. Since my stock rims are Rays, it was a higher bar than usual. I wasn't opposed to any other brand and think that all that were recommended in this thread are of high quality. Thanks for the recommendations and opinions! I am glad that we all have a little bit different tastes for sure, which makes for a variety of cool Zs to look at. Merv likes this.

02-13-2015, 04:51 PM	#39 (permalink)
BlackZeda A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Englewood, CO Posts: 1,109 Drives: 19 Audi TT RS Rep Power: 22	Ordered Satin Black 303Ms in the stock NISMO size with the carbon fiber HRE center caps. It is a 4 week wait since they are truly custom. They will have a fresh set of Michelin Pilot Super Sports when I put them on for the summer. I am very excited...stay tuned for pics FairladyZ10PG and Masterbeatty like this.

02-04-2015, 11:41 AM	#31 (permalink)
BlackZeda A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Englewood, CO Posts: 1,109 Drives: 19 Audi TT RS Rep Power: 22	I am about to order the 303M's in black, but I realized there are three different flavors: Satin, Textured and Gloss. Since I am keeping the car the same stock black, my feeling is that the Gloss black is the way to go. Is there any reason why I should consider the other two?

02-12-2015, 09:40 AM	#36 (permalink)
BlackZeda A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Englewood, CO Posts: 1,109 Drives: 19 Audi TT RS Rep Power: 22	I think the guy from the tire shop is going to have an orgasm when they arrive. BTW, I finally made the decision to go with the 19" Satin Black 303M. I am going with stock size so I can swap wheels with my OEM Rays if I eventually start tracking my Z.

02-14-2015, 06:47 PM	#40 (permalink)
Fishey Base Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Lebanon Posts: 159 Drives: Volvo T5-R Rep Power: 13	There are a bunch of differences when it comes to wheels and generally I would say most people the look really is the only thing that matters. However, if your one of those people that are really into performance some things make the small differences. First, Volk/Rays has one of the most impressive build processes I have ever seen for a wheel. Unlike a HRE/Forgeline they forged the wheel center into its desired shape. This has a few advantages as it allows for an extremely strong spoke design. This is because you never have to cut across the crystalline structure of the aluminum. However, they are limited on designs so weight/strength really isn't improved in this process. They seem reluctant to do any additional machining beyond the original forging. The Second thing about forging the center of the wheel and then attaching the inner and outer rim shells is that you end up with no spoke support on the outer lip. You will also find a lot of designs they use like the TE-37 have a nice 45 before it attaches to the rim-shell making it much more likely to flex. There is very little difference between most of the volk monoblock designs and a 3pc wheel when it comes to stiffness as a result. I don't know alot about the SSR process but its seems like it wouldn't have the same strength as a high pressure forged billet. I really do not know much beyond the fact they don't use a traditional forging process. When you look at an HRE or Forgline 1pc design almost all of them bring the spoke flush to the outter edge of the wheel. Which some people don't find as attractive but if your looking for outside lip you can always run a 3pc design. The real advantage to the 1pc is that you get this extra stiffness. Last edited by Fishey; 02-16-2015 at 11:58 AM.

02-15-2015, 09:04 PM	#41 (permalink)
BlackZeda A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Englewood, CO Posts: 1,109 Drives: 19 Audi TT RS Rep Power: 22	Scratch the carbon fiber center caps. We thought they were a $150 upcharge. They are...per wheel. They are nice, but that just seems excessive. I am an idiot, I will probably get them later

02-15-2015, 09:21 PM	#42 (permalink)
axmea? A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 6,236 Drives: WELL ZED PW 6MT Rep Power: 53241	HRE = prestige. Is that what you're after? Less price for Volks and get more for your money. __________________ >MyZ's Album< NISMO Convert/ECUTEK/Takeda CAI/F.I. HFC NR CB Carbon/F.I. 34 Row Oil Cooler/4.08 Final Drive /Powertrix+Swifts/Hotchkis/SPL/Whiteline/TWM/Zoom Engineering/EVO-R/AeroJacket Vented CF Fenders + CF Spoiler/Avant Garde-WORK/NST/Morimoto Halo/STi Clear Lenses/Carbon Signal Automotive/RJM Performance/ZSpeed Clutch Flywheel CSC delete

02-26-2015, 03:07 PM	#44 (permalink)
BlackZeda A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Englewood, CO Posts: 1,109 Drives: 19 Audi TT RS Rep Power: 22	Here is an interesting HRE Wheels video:

03-18-2015, 01:50 PM	#45 (permalink)
BlackZeda A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Englewood, CO Posts: 1,109 Drives: 19 Audi TT RS Rep Power: 22	Since I wasn't sure which center cap that I would be getting with my wheels on order, I called up HRE to see. Customer service picked up the phone immediately, and then I was transferred to a voice mailbox. Two minutes later my call was returned and Antonio had no problem switching from the red, white and blue to the black and silver caps. I also requested if they could send me some pictures of the wheels during production, which was no problem, and which I will share here. I have heard that their customer service is excellent, which was very evident during this encounter. Feeling pretty good with my decision to go with them. Stay tuned! cooltoy likes this.

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