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Dragon_Ball_Z 12-28-2014 02:24 AM

Forgestar F14 vs Forged rims
 
Hey guys, currently i have stock sport package rims on my 370z. I am looking at the forgestar f14 because i really like how they look, but i was told that i will lose tremendous horsepower having these rims because they are not forged. Can anybody give any insight on this? Thanks

DEpointfive0 12-28-2014 02:53 AM

Tremendous, no. Some, yes.

Dragon_Ball_Z 12-28-2014 02:53 AM

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Tremendous, no. Some, yes.


Would you worry about the loss or not really? I do occasionally track a little


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DEpointfive0 12-28-2014 03:00 AM

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Would you worry about the loss or not really? I do occasionally track a little


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I'd worry about tracking on cast stars, not the weight

Dragon_Ball_Z 12-28-2014 03:01 AM

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I'd worry about tracking on cast stars, not the weight


Is cast star a certain type of rim?


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DEpointfive0 12-28-2014 03:05 AM

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Is cast star a certain type of rim?


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Play on words, because Forgestars are cast

Dragon_Ball_Z 12-28-2014 03:06 AM

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Play on words, because Forgestars are cast


Lol my bad. Now I get it. I'm guessing I could just use oem for the track and forge star on the street. Appreciate the help Andrew


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DEpointfive0 12-28-2014 04:28 AM

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Lol my bad. Now I get it. I'm guessing I could just use oem for the track and forge star on the street. Appreciate the help Andrew


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That you could do, and many actually do. :tiphat:

G37sHKS 12-28-2014 04:55 AM

Your wheels are forged from factory, please don't downgrade.

Fishey 12-28-2014 05:58 AM

Cast wheels are not always a downgrade but in general forged wheels are both lighter and stronger.

Dragon_Ball_Z 12-28-2014 07:33 AM

I just wish they made this style forged.


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Zoren 370 12-28-2014 07:59 AM

They could have done it but the price would be astronomically not feasible for volume sale.

The rays oem sport wheels if bought from rays its cost is somewhere around 4k.
But due to being flooded in the market it only sell 1k used.

Dragon_Ball_Z 12-28-2014 08:02 AM

Forgestar F14 vs Forged rims
 
That's true

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Dragon_Ball_Z 12-28-2014 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Zoren 370 (Post 3066959)
They could have done it but the price would be astronomically not feasible for volume sale.



The rays oem sport wheels if bought from rays its cost is somewhere around 4k.

But due to being flooded in the market it only sell 1k used.


Yea I realized they sell a lot, but mainly I guess people just DD these wheels. The other wheels that I'm looking at are advant garde's and they are 4x the price....


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Fishey 12-28-2014 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Zoren 370 (Post 3066959)
They could have done it but the price would be astronomically not feasible for volume sale.

The rays oem sport wheels if bought from rays its cost is somewhere around 4k.
But due to being flooded in the market it only sell 1k used.

Yea, but Rays/Volk rims are not a top quality product. When it comes to Rims they are mid level grade.

You can buy a high level wheel for 4k a set which will be better in every single way then a Volk wheel.

There are a ton of differences in "Forged" wheels so I will try to break them down for you as simplistically as I can.

The first type of wheel are cheap forged wheels. These are generally your knock off rims. They are cold forged meaning they are formed at room temp with a press that just forms the billet into wheel shape. They then are mated with another billet of various sizes and put into a form flowing machine to produce the barrel.

The second type (rays/volks) are hot forged with a press into a certain shape. The hot forging allows for far better strength and more detailed forging that allows for a lighter wheel. This is then mated with a billet of various sizes and cold spun (form flowed) to make the barrel of the wheel.

The third type you will find on high end race wheels are hot press forged throughout. These wheel forgings are extremely strong and they also include the barrel. The barrel is machined first on these wheels and the barrel size is determined before machining begins. So you have to have the correct forged blank so sizing can be limited as a result. The barrel is turned and then the face of the wheel is cut to the specified design by a CNC machine. This process allows for very fine details compared to both the Cold and Hot press forging as you can cut the blank however you want. The main drawback is compared to a Forged Spoke shape you do cut the grain structure. The offset also has to be cut off the pad to get the desired fitment for the wheel. There are limitations to this pad as well so again fitment can become an issue as you have to have an appropriate forged blank to start with. This leaves you with an entirely forged wheel both center and barrel and they are extremely strong. They are far less likely to bend then a Rays style wheel due to this additional strength.

These wheel are fully forged and are the strongest aluminum wheels you can buy on the market and the kind of wheels you should be buying if your racing.


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