Nissan 370Z Forum  

Forgestar F14 vs Forged rims

Hey guys, currently i have stock sport package rims on my 370z. I am looking at the forgestar f14 because i really like how they look, but i was told

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z Tech Area > Wheels & Tires


Like Tree19Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-28-2014, 03:24 AM   #1 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Dragon_Ball_Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 1,117
Drives: Nismo& Sport/Touring
Rep Power: 17
Dragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond repute
Question Forgestar F14 vs Forged rims

Hey guys, currently i have stock sport package rims on my 370z. I am looking at the forgestar f14 because i really like how they look, but i was told that i will lose tremendous horsepower having these rims because they are not forged. Can anybody give any insight on this? Thanks
__________________
Build in Progress
Dragon_Ball_Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2014, 03:53 AM   #2 (permalink)
Premium Member Bitches
 
DEpointfive0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: SoCal
Posts: 14,824
Drives: a lot
Rep Power: 17151
DEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Tremendous, no. Some, yes.
Dragon_Ball_Z likes this.
__________________
Do YOU want to know what/where I got my username from?
( Click to show/hide )
DEpointfive0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2014, 03:53 AM   #3 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Dragon_Ball_Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 1,117
Drives: Nismo& Sport/Touring
Rep Power: 17
Dragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 View Post
Tremendous, no. Some, yes.

Would you worry about the loss or not really? I do occasionally track a little


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
Build in Progress
Dragon_Ball_Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2014, 04:00 AM   #4 (permalink)
Premium Member Bitches
 
DEpointfive0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: SoCal
Posts: 14,824
Drives: a lot
Rep Power: 17151
DEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rajmangal7 View Post
Would you worry about the loss or not really? I do occasionally track a little


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I'd worry about tracking on cast stars, not the weight
__________________
Do YOU want to know what/where I got my username from?
( Click to show/hide )
DEpointfive0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2014, 04:01 AM   #5 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Dragon_Ball_Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 1,117
Drives: Nismo& Sport/Touring
Rep Power: 17
Dragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 View Post
I'd worry about tracking on cast stars, not the weight

Is cast star a certain type of rim?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
Build in Progress
Dragon_Ball_Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2014, 04:05 AM   #6 (permalink)
Premium Member Bitches
 
DEpointfive0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: SoCal
Posts: 14,824
Drives: a lot
Rep Power: 17151
DEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rajmangal7 View Post
Is cast star a certain type of rim?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Play on words, because Forgestars are cast
Dragon_Ball_Z likes this.
__________________
Do YOU want to know what/where I got my username from?
( Click to show/hide )
DEpointfive0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2014, 04:06 AM   #7 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Dragon_Ball_Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 1,117
Drives: Nismo& Sport/Touring
Rep Power: 17
Dragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 View Post
Play on words, because Forgestars are cast

Lol my bad. Now I get it. I'm guessing I could just use oem for the track and forge star on the street. Appreciate the help Andrew


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
DEpointfive0 likes this.
__________________
Build in Progress
Dragon_Ball_Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2014, 05:28 AM   #8 (permalink)
Premium Member Bitches
 
DEpointfive0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: SoCal
Posts: 14,824
Drives: a lot
Rep Power: 17151
DEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rajmangal7 View Post
Lol my bad. Now I get it. I'm guessing I could just use oem for the track and forge star on the street. Appreciate the help Andrew


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
That you could do, and many actually do.
Dragon_Ball_Z likes this.
__________________
Do YOU want to know what/where I got my username from?
( Click to show/hide )
DEpointfive0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2014, 05:55 AM   #9 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
G37sHKS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Dubai
Posts: 1,183
Drives: 09 G37S Coupe 7AT
Rep Power: 20
G37sHKS has a reputation beyond reputeG37sHKS has a reputation beyond reputeG37sHKS has a reputation beyond reputeG37sHKS has a reputation beyond reputeG37sHKS has a reputation beyond reputeG37sHKS has a reputation beyond reputeG37sHKS has a reputation beyond reputeG37sHKS has a reputation beyond reputeG37sHKS has a reputation beyond reputeG37sHKS has a reputation beyond reputeG37sHKS has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Your wheels are forged from factory, please don't downgrade.
~37oZ~ and Dragon_Ball_Z like this.
__________________
G37sHKS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2014, 06:58 AM   #10 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Lebanon
Posts: 159
Drives: Volvo T5-R
Rep Power: 13
Fishey is a jewel in the roughFishey is a jewel in the roughFishey is a jewel in the rough
Default

Cast wheels are not always a downgrade but in general forged wheels are both lighter and stronger.
Dragon_Ball_Z likes this.
Fishey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2014, 08:33 AM   #11 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Dragon_Ball_Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 1,117
Drives: Nismo& Sport/Touring
Rep Power: 17
Dragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I just wish they made this style forged.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
Build in Progress
Dragon_Ball_Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2014, 08:59 AM   #12 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Zoren 370's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: FL
Posts: 11,018
Drives: 11 Nissan 370 M6
Rep Power: 1913653
Zoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

They could have done it but the price would be astronomically not feasible for volume sale.

The rays oem sport wheels if bought from rays its cost is somewhere around 4k.
But due to being flooded in the market it only sell 1k used.
Zoren 370 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2014, 09:02 AM   #13 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Dragon_Ball_Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 1,117
Drives: Nismo& Sport/Touring
Rep Power: 17
Dragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond repute
Default Forgestar F14 vs Forged rims

That's true

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
Build in Progress
Dragon_Ball_Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2014, 09:03 AM   #14 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Dragon_Ball_Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 1,117
Drives: Nismo& Sport/Touring
Rep Power: 17
Dragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond reputeDragon_Ball_Z has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoren 370 View Post
They could have done it but the price would be astronomically not feasible for volume sale.



The rays oem sport wheels if bought from rays its cost is somewhere around 4k.

But due to being flooded in the market it only sell 1k used.

Yea I realized they sell a lot, but mainly I guess people just DD these wheels. The other wheels that I'm looking at are advant garde's and they are 4x the price....


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
Build in Progress
Dragon_Ball_Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2014, 11:29 AM   #15 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Lebanon
Posts: 159
Drives: Volvo T5-R
Rep Power: 13
Fishey is a jewel in the roughFishey is a jewel in the roughFishey is a jewel in the rough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoren 370 View Post
They could have done it but the price would be astronomically not feasible for volume sale.

The rays oem sport wheels if bought from rays its cost is somewhere around 4k.
But due to being flooded in the market it only sell 1k used.
Yea, but Rays/Volk rims are not a top quality product. When it comes to Rims they are mid level grade.

You can buy a high level wheel for 4k a set which will be better in every single way then a Volk wheel.

There are a ton of differences in "Forged" wheels so I will try to break them down for you as simplistically as I can.

The first type of wheel are cheap forged wheels. These are generally your knock off rims. They are cold forged meaning they are formed at room temp with a press that just forms the billet into wheel shape. They then are mated with another billet of various sizes and put into a form flowing machine to produce the barrel.

The second type (rays/volks) are hot forged with a press into a certain shape. The hot forging allows for far better strength and more detailed forging that allows for a lighter wheel. This is then mated with a billet of various sizes and cold spun (form flowed) to make the barrel of the wheel.

The third type you will find on high end race wheels are hot press forged throughout. These wheel forgings are extremely strong and they also include the barrel. The barrel is machined first on these wheels and the barrel size is determined before machining begins. So you have to have the correct forged blank so sizing can be limited as a result. The barrel is turned and then the face of the wheel is cut to the specified design by a CNC machine. This process allows for very fine details compared to both the Cold and Hot press forging as you can cut the blank however you want. The main drawback is compared to a Forged Spoke shape you do cut the grain structure. The offset also has to be cut off the pad to get the desired fitment for the wheel. There are limitations to this pad as well so again fitment can become an issue as you have to have an appropriate forged blank to start with. This leaves you with an entirely forged wheel both center and barrel and they are extremely strong. They are far less likely to bend then a Rays style wheel due to this additional strength.

These wheel are fully forged and are the strongest aluminum wheels you can buy on the market and the kind of wheels you should be buying if your racing.
Zoren 370 likes this.

Last edited by Fishey; 12-28-2014 at 01:37 PM.
Fishey is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Forgestar Rims Knives Wheels & Tires 203 01-21-2014 06:37 PM
[FOR SALE] ***20in forgestar rims and tires*** Mothafuzzy Parts for sale (Private Classifieds) 7 08-28-2012 10:50 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:14 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2