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zefaulter 12-21-2014 11:25 PM

How to make these fit
 
I made a foolish mistake of buying a set of wheels without proper research. I assumed the wheels I bought from a fellow member would fit my Z.

Front wheels do not fit because of the sports brake. Using a 20mm spacer, I can get the wheels' face to clear the brake but now I have this problem:

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...psa42992d3.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...psb27b58c6.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...psb41f5045.jpg


Currently running -1.6 camber front(stock alignment with mild drop). I was told by a wheel repair shop that they can take up to 5mm off the hub. so I'll need to take another 15mm in.

How much of a negative camber do I need to run to make these fit? Anyone dealt with fender pulling/camber thinks this can happen?

I have posted the wheels in FS section in case I can't pull this off :icon14:

90 ST 12-21-2014 11:56 PM

Sell them. There is no making them look good on your Z...what did they come off of?

zefaulter 12-22-2014 05:58 AM

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Zoren 370 12-22-2014 06:08 AM

What size and offset those wheels have?

Zoren 370 12-22-2014 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by zefaulter (Post 3062397)
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I guess from a non sport package Z?

zefaulter 12-22-2014 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Zoren 370 (Post 3062398)
What size and offset those wheels have?

19x9.5 +15

With spacers they're -5

JC-Nismo 12-22-2014 06:18 AM

Sorry man, but don't destroy your Z with these. Work wheels are very popular and you'll get your money back soon. Put your stock wheels back on and continue with the sale as you are.

zefaulter 12-22-2014 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by JC-Nismo (Post 3062410)
Sorry man, but don't destroy your Z with these. Work wheels are very popular and you'll get your money back soon. Put your stock wheels back on and continue with the sale as you are.

That's what I'm thinking too. it's too bad, I really like these

bullitt5897 12-22-2014 08:15 AM

Sell them. The problem is not the offset but rather the backspace spec. These where built with a non sport in mind. Sorry to hear about the outcome. More wheels are always for sale on the forum.
Mike

zefaulter 12-22-2014 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 3062497)
Sell them. The problem is not the offset but rather the backspace spec. These where built with a non sport in mind. Sorry to hear about the outcome. More wheels are always for sale on the forum.
Mike

Thanks for the realistic but positive post, Mike! :tiphat:

nismolucino 12-22-2014 11:23 AM

These are 2 piece correct? If so couldnt you just get new barrels or faces to change the offset?

90 ST 12-22-2014 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by nismolucino (Post 3062688)
These are 2 piece correct? If so couldnt you just get new barrels or faces to change the offset?

If they are a real 2 piece one could, but would it be worth the $$ is the question.

Zerafian 12-22-2014 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 90 ST (Post 3062725)
If they are a real 2 piece one could, but would it be worth the $$ is the question.

no. Just resell them for the same price. Its actually the faces that are causing them not to fit, not the barrels

Unless youd be ok with running -3 to -4 camber up front. Youd probably need to buy front A arms at that point

Im not pointing fingers but if the seller didnt state they were "O disk" then hes a little to blame. Then again you did admit you didnt do your research so even if he did state the disk type it may not have mattered.

Work has their own disk types. O, A, and T disk. O disk gives more of a concave face and wont fit over any break kit accept a base size. A disk should fit over sport or stock akebonos. T disk fits large brake kits making the faces more convex.

If Im incorrect someone chime in and correct me please :)

90 ST 12-22-2014 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Zerafian (Post 3062902)
no. Just resell them for the same price. Its actually the faces that are causing them not to fit, not the barrels

Unless youd be ok with running -3 to -4 camber up front. Youd probably need to buy front A arms at that point

Im not pointing fingers but if the seller didnt state they were "O disk" then hes a little to blame. Then again you did admit you didnt do your research so even if he did state the disk type it may not have mattered.

Work has their own disk types. O, A, and T disk. O disk gives more of a concave face and wont fit over any break kit accept a base size. A disk should fit over sport or stock akebonos. T disk fits large brake kits making the faces more convex.

If Im incorrect someone chime in and correct me please :)

Good point, they would still only fit with spacers, even with different barrels. Sell them and move on.

zefaulter 12-22-2014 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by nismolucino (Post 3062688)
These are 2 piece correct? If so couldnt you just get new barrels or faces to change the offset?

Quote:

Originally Posted by 90 ST (Post 3062725)
If they are a real 2 piece one could, but would it be worth the $$ is the question.

They are welded 2 piece. Meaning you can't just unbolt and replace. I was willing to pay for that but I dont think it's possible.

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Originally Posted by Zerafian (Post 3062902)
no. Just resell them for the same price. Its actually the faces that are causing them not to fit, not the barrels

Unless youd be ok with running -3 to -4 camber up front. Youd probably need to buy front A arms at that point

Im not pointing fingers but if the seller didnt state they were "O disk" then hes a little to blame. Then again you did admit you didnt do your research so even if he did state the disk type it may not have mattered.

Work has their own disk types. O, A, and T disk. O disk gives more of a concave face and wont fit over any break kit accept a base size. A disk should fit over sport or stock akebonos. T disk fits large brake kits making the faces more convex.

If Im incorrect someone chime in and correct me please :)

I didn't ask the question, I just assumed they'll fit :mad:

Jordo! 12-22-2014 02:43 PM

Definitely make sure on next purchase that they will clear the Akebonos.

I'm not sure what the minimum measurements are for that (someone here might know), but if it didn't come off of a sport package Z, its 50/50 at best that they will fit yours.

I'm sure you'll be able to re-sell -- good luck!

iceman21_23 12-22-2014 02:56 PM

sell them buy mine lol

zefaulter 12-22-2014 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by iceman21_23 (Post 3062966)
sell them buy mine lol

Not sure if I'll buy used again lol

Waiz 12-23-2014 01:00 AM

As others have stated, I would not bother running these wheels

Too many times I have seen sellers assume that wheels can fit the buyers brake setup. It's up to you to do the research prior :eek:

JC-Nismo 12-23-2014 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by zefaulter (Post 3063056)
Not sure if I'll buy used again lol

Well i wouldn't exactly go that route, you just have to do more research like you said and really just ask for pics of what they came off. $2500 is a lot to spend on used rims IMO and I know your pissed to have these sitting up when they should be on your Z, but guys tend to flock to these wheels so they should go pretty soon, more than likely after the holidays.

iceman21_23 12-23-2014 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by zefaulter (Post 3063056)
Not sure if I'll buy used again lol

well considering i run them right now on a sport packaged z I think you'd be okay :p but yea always have to do extra research when buying used.

zefaulter 12-26-2014 11:30 AM

out of curiosity, how much of a negative camber do these front wheels need to fit?

Waiz 12-26-2014 11:35 AM

Enough that you need to get one of these to run them:

http://www.the370z.com/suspension-br...pre-order.html

Your stock front arms are very limited in adjustability

Like I said prior, you were told the wrong info from the seller. Just sell them to someone else and cut your losses

zefaulter 12-26-2014 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Waiz (Post 3065854)
Enough that you need to get one of these to run them:

http://www.the370z.com/suspension-br...pre-order.html

Your stock front arms are very limited in adjustability

Like I said prior, you were told the wrong info from the seller. Just sell them to someone else and cut your losses

I understand that and thank you for the advice(which I am following). I just wanted to know if you or anyone would know the amount of camber required, that's all

Zerafian 12-26-2014 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by zefaulter (Post 3063056)
Not sure if I'll buy used again lol

just make sure you buy slightly more conservative offsets. Like if the fronts are 9.5" go with +25 to +30 so that if you need to put a spacer on you can.

Most of the time you wont see a seller put the disk type because they dont know either. Just hop on google next time you see a wheel your interested in used and find out from different pics if that wheels fits over BBK or sports brakes.

Youv learned the hard way but youll never make the same mistake again.

Waiz 12-26-2014 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by zefaulter (Post 3065943)
I understand that and thank you for the advice(which I am following). I just wanted to know if you or anyone would know the amount of camber required, that's all

Would need to see the car on the ground to tell but it would need alot of negative camber

It would look weird though without doing a similar setup for the rear and you would wear out your tires both quicker and in a less normal fashion.

Just forget it, not worth it

JC-Nismo 12-26-2014 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by zefaulter (Post 3065943)
I understand that and thank you for the advice(which I am following). I just wanted to know if you or anyone would know the amount of camber required, that's all

Put it on the ground and you'll be able to tell or take a pic and post it and I'm sure some knowledgeable guys will respond.


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