Wow those lug nuts are hard to remove

Bking · 10-22-2014, 08:52 PM

As soon as I drove off from my house I heard a loud pop and I knew my tire is fuked.

The size of that thing that punctured my tire is ridiculous. I guess I should have stayed home. Some of the those lug nuts are so hard to remove I had to ask my friend for help. We had to 2-man the torque wrench to break those nuts loose.

By the way, the spare wheel actually looks pretty good when viewed on its side. From the back however, it's hilarious.

blackcherry20 · 10-22-2014, 08:55 PM

Good lord. What is that in your tire?

85ft lbs of torque. Hard to break it loose.

Gadgetech · 10-22-2014, 09:05 PM

I've wondered about what care must be taken to drive a Z with a spare on the rear. Can only imagine keeping the traction control on would severely limit forward movement due to the amount of wheel spin I'd expect from a spare.

onzedge · 10-22-2014, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bking

As soon as I drove off from my house I heard a loud pop and I knew my tire is fuked.

The size of that thing that punctured my tire is ridiculous. I guess I should have stayed home. Some of the those lug nuts are so hard to remove I had to ask my friend for help. We had to 2-man the torque wrench to break those nuts loose.

By the way, the spare wheel actually looks pretty good when viewed on its side. From the back however, it's hilarious.

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One word: Michelin Pilot Super Sport

OK, that was 4 words.

If you had trouble with your lugs then

1. They were over-torqued
2. You need to work on your arm/upper body strength

85 ft/lb is the specification.

1st · 10-22-2014, 11:54 PM

Talk about some ******** shrapnel. Bummer bro.

Read T · 10-23-2014, 12:12 AM

If you're too weak to undo a lugnut, just put the lug wrench on there and use the scissor jack to turn it.

TreeSemdyZee · 10-23-2014, 07:43 AM

My owner's manual says 80 pounds, not 85.
Like others have said, if it took two to remove the lugs, then they were over-torqued.

NOT a good idea to take lugs off with a torque wrench. It can screw up the wrench. Trust me I did it.

gurneyeagle · 10-23-2014, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onzedge

One word: Michelin Pilot Super Sport

OK, that was 4 words.

If you had trouble with your lugs then

1. They were over-torqued
2. You need to work on your arm/upper body strength

85 ft/lb is the specification.

Yeah, your lugs were WAY over-torqued. That's very bad for the rims and hubs.

Suggestion - go over to Lowes and purchase a breaker bar and a torque wrench with the proper socket for each. I carry a breaker bar in the car under the trunk mat. You do not want to be stuck on the side of the rode with frozen lug nuts.

Shop Kobalt 1/2-in Breaker Bar at Lowes.com

You should check the torque on your lug nuts at least monthly, along with tire pressure.

onzedge · 10-23-2014, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gurneyeagle

Yeah, your lugs were WAY over-torqued. That's very bad for the rims and hubs.

Suggestion - go over to Lowes and purchase a breaker bar and a torque wrench with the proper socket for each. I carry a breaker bar in the car under the trunk mat. You do not want to be stuck on the side of the rode with frozen lug nuts.

Shop Kobalt 1/2-in Breaker Bar at Lowes.com

You should check the torque on your lug nuts at least monthly, along with tire pressure.

blackcherry20 · 10-23-2014, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gurneyeagle

Yeah, your lugs were WAY over-torqued. That's very bad for the rims and hubs.

Suggestion - go over to Lowes and purchase a breaker bar and a torque wrench with the proper socket for each. I carry a breaker bar in the car under the trunk mat. You do not want to be stuck on the side of the rode with frozen lug nuts.

Shop Kobalt 1/2-in Breaker Bar at Lowes.com

You should check the torque on your lug nuts at least monthly, along with tire pressure.

Quote:

Originally Posted by onzedge

breaker bar. I needs. No way i could break them loose w/o a socket/ratchet which I do not carry w me.
Christmas is coming. Somebody text my husband please.

onzedge · 10-23-2014, 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackcherry20

breaker bar. I needs. No way i could break them loose w/o a socket/ratchet which I do not carry w me.
Christmas is coming. Somebody text my husband please.

OK

SouthArk370Z · 10-23-2014, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gurneyeagle

... You should check the torque on your lug nuts at least monthly, ...

I check mine a few days after re-installing. If they are still tight, I forget about them. If any need tightening, I check again in a few days. YMMV

JARblue · 10-23-2014, 09:40 AM

The little short arm bar that comes standard in the Z makes removing the lug nuts fairly difficult even if they are torqued properly to 85 ftlbs. I usually end up standing on it to break them loose because I seem to always tear up my knuckles on the rim or the ground when I do it by hand. It's fine in a pinch (i.e. side of the road and only one tire), but I use a 36" long breaker bar at home. It was $10 at Harbor Freight on clearance (I haven't seen them since, but they have a 25" one about the same price)

2011 Nismo#91 · 10-23-2014, 11:03 AM

I have to stand in the bar as well to remove my lugs. While 80-85ft/lbs maybe what they were installed at over time with oxidation etc. it will require much more than that to remove it. And never remove bolts with a torque wrench unless there is no other choice.

SouthArk370Z · 10-23-2014, 11:20 AM

A little bit of NeverSeez (or equiv) will (usually) make it easier to remove the lug nuts. Apply in a very thin layer to all the bolt threads that will be in contact with the nut. The stuff will provide some lubrication so torque to the low end of the range or a few ft-lb less.

10-22-2014, 08:52 PM	#1 (permalink)
Bking Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Vancouver Posts: 298 Drives: 40th Z Rep Power: 14	Wow those lug nuts are hard to remove As soon as I drove off from my house I heard a loud pop and I knew my tire is fuked. The size of that thing that punctured my tire is ridiculous. I guess I should have stayed home. Some of the those lug nuts are so hard to remove I had to ask my friend for help. We had to 2-man the torque wrench to break those nuts loose. By the way, the spare wheel actually looks pretty good when viewed on its side. From the back however, it's hilarious.

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blackcherry20 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2012 Location: Southern Ohio Posts: 22,749 Drives: ‘17 badazz Z51 Rep Power: 240459	Good lord. What is that in your tire? 85ft lbs of torque. Hard to break it loose. gurneyeagle likes this. __________________ Grand Sport Corvette Arctic White

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Gadgetech A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Cumming, Ga Posts: 1,559 Drives: The Short Bus Rep Power: 870	I've wondered about what care must be taken to drive a Z with a spare on the rear. Can only imagine keeping the traction control on would severely limit forward movement due to the amount of wheel spin I'd expect from a spare. __________________ Upstate Z Club

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Read T A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2012 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 1,046 Drives: 11 Nissan 370z BC 6M Rep Power: 18	If you're too weak to undo a lugnut, just put the lug wrench on there and use the scissor jack to turn it. __________________ 2011 Nissan 370z Black Cherry Sport Pkg - Daily Driver, , 1960 Morgan +4 fun car, 1986 BMW 325ES, 1998 M3 and 1996 Spec Miata - Race Cars SUPPORT TEAM WINSOME RACING - WRL, CHUMP, LEMONS

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JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 43 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684440	The little short arm bar that comes standard in the Z makes removing the lug nuts fairly difficult even if they are torqued properly to 85 ftlbs. I usually end up standing on it to break them loose because I seem to always tear up my knuckles on the rim or the ground when I do it by hand. It's fine in a pinch (i.e. side of the road and only one tire), but I use a 36" long breaker bar at home. It was $10 at Harbor Freight on clearance (I haven't seen them since, but they have a 25" one about the same price) __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \| Last edited by JARblue; 10-23-2014 at 09:42 AM.

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1st A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: I 80 Biz U.S. 50 Posts: 1,709 Drives: Platinum Z Rep Power: 1616	Talk about some ******** shrapnel. Bummer bro.

10-23-2014, 07:43 AM	#7 (permalink)
TreeSemdyZee Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Kentuck-IANA Age: 60 Posts: 4,885 Drives: '09 370 & ‘14 Juke Rep Power: 27408	My owner's manual says 80 pounds, not 85. Like others have said, if it took two to remove the lugs, then they were over-torqued. NOT a good idea to take lugs off with a torque wrench. It can screw up the wrench. Trust me I did it.

10-23-2014, 11:03 AM	#14 (permalink)
2011 Nismo#91 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NJ Posts: 2,401 Drives: slowly Rep Power: 40569	I have to stand in the bar as well to remove my lugs. While 80-85ft/lbs maybe what they were installed at over time with oxidation etc. it will require much more than that to remove it. And never remove bolts with a torque wrench unless there is no other choice.

10-23-2014, 11:20 AM	#15 (permalink)
SouthArk370Z Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 8,435 Drives: 2014 Challenger Rep Power: 324198	A little bit of NeverSeez (or equiv) will (usually) make it easier to remove the lug nuts. Apply in a *very* thin layer to all the bolt threads that will be in contact with the nut. The stuff will provide some lubrication so torque to the low end of the range or a few ft-lb less. onzedge likes this. __________________ Steering Lock Links - Search The370Z Bookmarklet - FSM @ NICOclub Mankind has progressed past the need for war but we haven't evolved that far. - NachoMahma

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