Importance of the weight of your wheels???

cooltoy · 09-19-2014, 03:25 PM

But at least I brought up the subject. That's got to be worth something.

kenchan · 09-19-2014, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cooltoy

But at least I brought up the subject. That's got to be worth something.

yah, gross weight is a very important factor indeed. kinda like buying a nice sports car and
running shittty tires on them.. why bother, kinda.

cooltoy · 09-19-2014, 03:56 PM

Gadgetech · 09-20-2014, 02:42 PM

Probably different for cars than motorcycles but weight at the outer edge of the wheel is usually more important than overall weight. Since the wheels stay relatively flat on a car that may not matter as much.

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jcosta79 · 09-21-2014, 12:16 AM

General rule of thumb is that 1 pound of unsprung and rotational weight (wheels and tires are both) saved is roughly equal to taking 7 pounds off the car. Multiply 40x7= 280lbs. You should be able to feel that much difference.

Kingbaby · 09-21-2014, 03:10 AM

The average driver won't feel a difference unless autoxing or horrible road conditions ! I've gone from factory wheels and tire to same specs just lower offset and wider tires...by the math I've gained 84lbs!

OEM F: 18x9 +30 - 24lbs Tire:245/40WR18 Bridgestone Potenza RE050A - 26lbs
OEM R: 19x10 +30 -26lbs Tire:265/35WR19 Bridgestone Potenza RE050A - 29lbs

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WORK S1 F: 18x9 +5 - 25lbs Tire:275/35XL18 Kumho Ecsta XS - 28lbs
WORK S1 R: 19x10 -3 -27lbs Tire:265/35SL19 Kumho Ecsta XS - 31lbs

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Crazy stuff, yet I've removed so much (313lbs) that I can't and don't feel a difference. With a last dyno of 284whp car still moves with a purpose.

Ubetit · 09-21-2014, 02:46 PM

Went from stock sport wheels and tires
52.2lbs front each
56.8lbs rear each

To

Advan RS wheels with Michelin PSS (stock size wheels and tires, better offsets)
45.4lbs front each
48.8lbs rear each

I can definitely tell a difference.

Shotta · 10-04-2014, 07:35 AM

I went with a lighter ap racing brake setup In the front and definitely felt the difference from that alone. I'm going to go with pss tires next to shave some more weight.

In my experience on many different vehicles going from a heavier wheel/tire combination to a lighter combo gives you a very noticeable feeling similar to adding horse power to the car. If you car is for show only then just get whatever wheels/tires that look pretty .

OMGWTFBBQ · 10-04-2014, 08:29 AM

It might be a placebo effect, but I definitely felt a difference when I switched from Volk Racing G2 to Work Meister S1R then switched over to Volk Racing ZE40. All of them were 19x9.5 front 19x10.5 rear. The Works looked amazing but I just love Volk one piece wheels.

nomodsjk · 10-04-2014, 10:13 AM

This was really informative. Thanks guys!

TROXZILLA · 10-06-2014, 06:07 PM

From the research I have done on Tirerack, comparing apples to apples (same tire size) the DW's do appear to be the lightest, followed by the Pilot SS's, and the PZero's. DW's were about 3 lb's lighter per tire, which IMO is very substantial.

cooltoy · 10-06-2014, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TROXZILLA

DW's were about 3 lb's lighter per tire, which IMO is very substantial.

Compared to what?

kenchan · 10-07-2014, 11:09 AM

most tires. the only reason why i have DW on my WEDS... that said, i much prefer my RE11's even though they are 4-5lbs heavier than the DW. my nismo wheels are 22-23lbs so doenst make much difference from stock 19's. RE050's are only like a lb heavier than the RE11 from wat i remember.

cigarclifford · 10-07-2014, 12:00 PM

Tire Rack....dot com for me

kenchan · 10-07-2014, 12:05 PM

that's my go to store for tires for sure.

09-19-2014, 03:25 PM	#16 (permalink)
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Gadgetech A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Cumming, Ga Posts: 1,559 Drives: The Short Bus Rep Power: 870	Probably different for cars than motorcycles but weight at the outer edge of the wheel is usually more important than overall weight. Since the wheels stay relatively flat on a car that may not matter as much. Sent from my Galaxy S5 Active __________________ Upstate Z Club

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jcosta79 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: N/A Posts: 1,430 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 15	General rule of thumb is that 1 pound of unsprung and rotational weight (wheels and tires are both) saved is roughly equal to taking 7 pounds off the car. Multiply 40x7= 280lbs. You should be able to feel that much difference. Shotta and nomodsjk like this. __________________ 2012 PW NISMO #0559 - GT Spec Brace Kit - Swift Springs - ARK TP & Invidia CBE K&N Intake - UpRev Tune - 15mm Z1 Spacers & Studs - StopTech Slotted Rotors & SS Lines - ZSpeed CMAK with Stage 2 Clutch and Lightweight Flywheel

09-21-2014, 02:46 PM	#22 (permalink)
Ubetit Track Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 527 Drives: the women lazy Rep Power: 14	Went from stock sport wheels and tires 52.2lbs front each 56.8lbs rear each To Advan RS wheels with Michelin PSS (stock size wheels and tires, better offsets) 45.4lbs front each 48.8lbs rear each I can definitely tell a difference. kenchan and Shotta like this.

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Shotta Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Niagara Posts: 316 Drives: 2010 370z black M6 Rep Power: 13	I went with a lighter ap racing brake setup In the front and definitely felt the difference from that alone. I'm going to go with pss tires next to shave some more weight. In my experience on many different vehicles going from a heavier wheel/tire combination to a lighter combo gives you a very noticeable feeling similar to adding horse power to the car. If you car is for show only then just get whatever wheels/tires that look pretty . __________________ 6MT - designed for perfectionists 7AT - designed for enthusiasts

10-04-2014, 08:29 AM	#24 (permalink)
OMGWTFBBQ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: the OC Posts: 1,886 Drives: 08 SGM IS350 Rep Power: 4549	It might be a placebo effect, but I definitely felt a difference when I switched from Volk Racing G2 to Work Meister S1R then switched over to Volk Racing ZE40. All of them were 19x9.5 front 19x10.5 rear. The Works looked amazing but I just love Volk one piece wheels. __________________ Zele Performance \| Varis \| Powerhouse Amuse \| Craftsquare \| Tommy Kaira \| Top Secret \| HKS \| Defi \| Volk Racing \| Cusco \| SPL \| Never ending build thread.. PM me if you have rare JDM parts for sale!

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nomodsjk Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: martinsburg wv Posts: 2,073 Drives: 2011 370z MB/7at Rep Power: 19962	This was really informative. Thanks guys!

10-06-2014, 06:07 PM	#26 (permalink)
TROXZILLA Base Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Boise, ID Posts: 39 Drives: 11 370Z AT, Blue Rep Power: 11	From the research I have done on Tirerack, comparing apples to apples (same tire size) the DW's do appear to be the lightest, followed by the Pilot SS's, and the PZero's. DW's were about 3 lb's lighter per tire, which IMO is very substantial.

10-07-2014, 11:09 AM	#28 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	most tires. the only reason why i have DW on my WEDS... that said, i much prefer my RE11's even though they are 4-5lbs heavier than the DW. my nismo wheels are 22-23lbs so doenst make much difference from stock 19's. RE050's are only like a lb heavier than the RE11 from wat i remember.

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kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	that's my go to store for tires for sure. cigarclifford likes this.

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