Lug nuts - aftermarket to fit OEM Ray's Forged Sport package wheels

MacCool · 05-01-2014, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by synolimit

Well if it makes you feel any better my gorilla's black chromed made it 52k on two WRX's and this new set on the Z's at like 7k with winters. Still black with many drops and kicks being laid on the garage floor when working and wheels are still on it.

I appreciate the observation. If black was my color choice, I might have gone that route but since I can't electroplate red, and especially in this day of rampant substandard Chinese knock-off fasteners, I'm going to shell out the $50 and go with proven OEM security and then some powder coating.

MacCool · 05-07-2014, 11:50 AM

Ultimately decided to just go with plastic covers from Color Lugs. $20 for a set of 20, as opposed to $100 for a set of OEM lug nuts then about $100 to get them powder coated. Seems worth a try. I note that the Color Lugs web site thinks that the OEM nuts on the 370Z Sport wheels are 17mm. They're not...they're 21mm and require the lugcaps, not the boltcaps.

Unique_Z · 05-07-2014, 12:25 PM

I've put my Muteki SR35 last year when i convert to stock and it fits just fine with no play or whatsoever.

Chuck33079 · 05-07-2014, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Iwan72

I've put my Muteki SR35 last year when i convert to stock and it fits just fine with no play or whatsoever.

You're setting yourself up for a major issue. Those look like acorn-style, not washer style like the oem lugs.

MacCool · 05-07-2014, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Iwan72

I've put my Muteki SR35 last year when i convert to stock and it fits just fine with no play or whatsoever.

Those don't look anywhere near the same as OEM.

I'm not willing to take the chance on a) aluminum and b) tuner-style on mag-style wheels. Too many smart wheel guys here on this forum have posted in this and other threads that it's a bad idea. Having lost a wheel before on a boat trailer from sheared lug nuts, I know that it's a HUGE hassle. I think I'll just save the money and half-a$$ it. Maybe I'll rethink if these plastic caps just suck, but I'm thinking that from the distance most people will see them, 99% would never notice.

Chuck33079 · 05-07-2014, 12:38 PM

At BEST it's a huge hassle. It could very well be the last thing that ever happens to you.

kenchan · 05-07-2014, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Iwan72

I've put my Muteki SR35 last year when i convert to stock and it fits just fine with no play or whatsoever.

DEpointfive0 · 05-07-2014, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MacCool

Ultimately decided to just go with plastic covers from Color Lugs. $20 for a set of 20, as opposed to $100 for a set of OEM lug nuts then about $100 to get them powder coated. Seems worth a try. I note that the Color Lugs web site thinks that the OEM nuts on the 370Z Sport wheels are 17mm. They're not...they're 21mm and require the lugcaps, not the boltcaps.

What color do you want them powdercoated?

I'm finding it hard to believe it would cost $100 for spare lugs and $100 to PC them... If you want a color that I have, I'll do it for free.

DEpointfive0 · 05-07-2014, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Iwan72

I've put my Muteki SR35 last year when i convert to stock and it fits just fine with no play or whatsoever.

I hope you don't turn your wheel, ever.
You're asking for the holes of the wheels to break

JARblue · 05-07-2014, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MacCool

Having lost a wheel before on a boat trailer from sheared lug nuts.

That has happened to me

MacCool · 05-07-2014, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

What color do you want them powdercoated?

I'm finding it hard to believe it would cost $100 for spare lugs and $100 to PC them... If you want a color that I have, I'll do it for free.

Thanks. The cost of OEM lugs at Z1 is $99. The cost of the powder coating is mostly labor. Sandblasting the chrome, buying twenty M12 bolts to protect the threads, then the multiple coats required for functional (vs decorative) non-porous finish so that the now-dechromed nuts don't rust. Not to mention the potential change in nut size keeping the socket from fitting the coated lug nut. I think I'd probably sandblast them myself, then just hit 'em with some krylon, powder coat them if that didn't work. As it is, well....the red plastic caps are $20 a set and will just press on over my existing lugs.

kenchan · 05-07-2014, 05:36 PM

maccool-wat color is your wheel? if factory hyper silver, keep it stock color.

MacCool · 05-07-2014, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

maccool-wat color is your wheel? if factory hyper silver, keep it stock color.

versus

Is what I'm thinking. Only cost me $20 to find out, I guess.

DEpointfive0 · 05-07-2014, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MacCool

Thanks. The cost of OEM lugs at Z1 is $99. The cost of the powder coating is mostly labor. Sandblasting the chrome, buying twenty M12 bolts to protect the threads, then the multiple coats required for functional (vs decorative) non-porous finish so that the now-dechromed nuts don't rust. Not to mention the potential change in nut size keeping the socket from fitting the coated lug nut. I think I'd probably sandblast them myself, then just hit 'em with some krylon, powder coat them if that didn't work. As it is, well....the red plastic caps are $20 a set and will just press on over my existing lugs.

Um... I have powdercoated lug nuts... You don't have to do any of that crap., I put the lugs on a metal tray with aluminum foil, carries the current well enough.

And buy a used set from here on the forum for $20. I would send you one of my sets, but I went from 10 sets to 0...

merkil · 05-25-2014, 10:06 AM

Thought I would post this here as well, hopefully get more exposure

I was able to find these adaptors

Gorilla 79916 $2.99 Lug Nut Washers Tapered/Flat Adapter Style
Excalibur 788 $2.69 Lug Nut Washers Tapered/Flat Adapter Style
Excalibur 787 $2.69 Lug Nut Washers Tapered/Flat Adapter Style

I think most aftermarket lugs have a 60 deg seat so the first adaptor should work. The only problem as discussed in the definitive lug nut thread is will there still be enough bite with the adaptor.

Im hoping some one has some aftermarket lugs around and can try out a few to let us know! Im thinking about it but I don't have any aftermarket lugs.

05-07-2014, 12:25 PM	#18 (permalink)
Unique_Z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Brunei Posts: 1,515 Drives: 370Z, 180SX Rep Power: 17	I've put my Muteki SR35 last year when i convert to stock and it fits just fine with no play or whatsoever. __________________ My Z Build UniqueZ

05-07-2014, 12:38 PM	#21 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	At BEST it's a huge hassle. It could very well be the last thing that ever happens to you. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

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05-07-2014, 11:50 AM	#17 (permalink)
MacCool A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Midwest Posts: 1,349 Drives: 370Z PW 2014 Rep Power: 16	Ultimately decided to just go with plastic covers from Color Lugs. $20 for a set of 20, as opposed to $100 for a set of OEM lug nuts then about $100 to get them powder coated. Seems worth a try. I note that the Color Lugs web site thinks that the OEM nuts on the 370Z Sport wheels are 17mm. They're not...they're 21mm and require the lugcaps, not the boltcaps.

05-07-2014, 05:36 PM	#27 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	maccool-wat color is your wheel? if factory hyper silver, keep it stock color.

05-25-2014, 10:06 AM	#30 (permalink)
merkil Base Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Brantford, Ontario Posts: 63 Drives: 2011 370z Rep Power: 12	Thought I would post this here as well, hopefully get more exposure I was able to find these adaptors Gorilla 79916 $2.99 Lug Nut Washers Tapered/Flat Adapter Style Excalibur 788 $2.69 Lug Nut Washers Tapered/Flat Adapter Style Excalibur 787 $2.69 Lug Nut Washers Tapered/Flat Adapter Style I think most aftermarket lugs have a 60 deg seat so the first adaptor should work. The only problem as discussed in the definitive lug nut thread is will there still be enough bite with the adaptor. Im hoping some one has some aftermarket lugs around and can try out a few to let us know! Im thinking about it but I don't have any aftermarket lugs.