Real Custom Wheels! Made from Scratch!

bullitt5897 · 09-09-2009, 11:55 AM

Ok,

Who knows where I can get wheel blanks? I have a local shop that can CNC my wheel faces but I need to find a source for wheel blanks. I cant find them anywhere... I find cast wheels but everyone knows they are weaker than rotary forged aluminum blanks. any help would be much appreciated.

If I can get these done then I will be more than happy to design and have wheels built for the community at as low of a price as I can and pass on the savings to my fellow z brothers. I am talking barely over cost so you guys can get real 3 piece wheels without the 3 piece cost!!! I just get a small piece to cover my time and effort its not my living but something I don't mind doing on the side.

Mike

nogoodname · 09-09-2009, 12:10 PM

ask some vendors on here if they got any info

bullitt5897 · 09-09-2009, 01:48 PM

I will try that... thnx

RCZ · 09-09-2009, 02:04 PM

You are going to design the wheels?

How much experience do you have with building structurally sound wheels for a car that weighs 3200lbs and can go 170mph?

I am honestly asking these questions, not putting you down since I would be interested, but are you sure you want to take on that responsibility? What if they fail?

I dont know... sounds like one of those things we aught to leave to the pro's. If you are a pro, then awesome, I mean no disrespect.

bullitt5897 · 09-09-2009, 03:49 PM

I have several CAD programs and a few structural engineers in my company that I am going to pass the idea through. Right now this is all concept and I am trying to find the right sources to be able to do it. Every design I do will go through one of them before I even think about making it. I take no disrespect to what your asking as they are very valid questions to be asking. I run Avacado Studios and we have a few CAD designers in house so I may have them design some wheel faces and I am going to use 6061T forged blocks so I can have a strong wheel face. Like I am saying if its something that I feel comfortable with offering to the community I will. If not then they will stay as my personal project and products.

RCZ I respect your opinion as I too track my car and there is no way in heck I am going to put something on my car that could possibly fail. Especially at the speeds and lateral G's we are pushing on the track. I personally was going to track test each design before release. We will see

DannyGT · 09-09-2009, 06:59 PM

Lets do this...I have access to a metal fab company who can do the work. Only condition is, you have the engineering portion complete and they make it for a good quantity.

Other than that. Get a 19x10 & 19x12 blank, copy the HRE P90's, flat front/concave rear...BAM we're done!

bullitt5897 · 09-09-2009, 07:54 PM

exactly!

g96818 · 09-11-2009, 05:17 PM

are your structural engineers capable of doing dynamic motion calcs? only reason i ask is cuz the wheel will always be in dynamic motion unless you're stopped and the structural engineering classes i've seen at school only teaches the very basics of dynamics, not the type that will be applied to the wheels.

Ryan@Forged · 09-11-2009, 05:43 PM

Honestly, I'm not sure this sounds like a great idea. There is quite a bit more involved than it sounds. You're basically talking about starting up your own wheel manufacturing company. Keep that in mind as well as potential law suits that may follow if the wheels ever fail. There's a difference in being able to physically make a wheel and realistically manufacturing a quality wheel. I hope your CAD programs and your engineers can calculate the stress under extreme abuse to guarantee they will not ever fail. Also you will need to make sure the weight is at an acceptable range, aesthetically pleasing to the eye, hold up over time in both appearance and strength, and are worth the buy over any other wheel manufacturing company available right now. Good luck.

CrownR426 · 09-11-2009, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan@Forged

Honestly, I'm not sure this sounds like a great idea. There is quite a bit more involved than it sounds. You're basically talking about starting up your own wheel manufacturing company. Keep that in mind as well as potential law suits that may follow if the wheels ever fail. There's a difference in being able to physically make a wheel and realistically manufacturing a quality wheel. I hope your CAD programs and your engineers can calculate the stress under extreme abuse to guarantee they will not ever fail. Also you will need to make sure the weight is at an acceptable range, aesthetically pleasing to the eye, hold up over time in both appearance and strength, and are worth the buy over any other wheel manufacturing company available right now. Good luck.

op should re-think.

frost · 09-11-2009, 06:57 PM

Every great wheel maker started somewhere.

nogoodname · 09-11-2009, 07:05 PM

will be interesting to see

bullitt5897 · 09-11-2009, 08:52 PM

I have many options on the table right now. Which option I choose to take IDK... Ryan you point out some great observations that are 100% true and valid. I am working with a few partners to see if this is an endevour we wish to embark on. Only time will tell...

frost · 09-11-2009, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bullitt5897

I have many options on the table right now. Which option I choose to take IDK... Ryan you point out some great observations that are 100% true and valid. I am working with a few partners to see if this is an endevour we wish to embark on. Only time will tell...

Don't wuss out now, we are all waiting.

sloterg · 09-11-2009, 08:54 PM

would b interested to see..

as i have no idea what goes into wheel making..

09-09-2009, 11:55 AM	#1 (permalink)
bullitt5897 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North GA Posts: 6,831 Drives: Twin Turbo Z34 Rep Power: 3682	Real Custom Wheels! Made from Scratch! Ok, Who knows where I can get wheel blanks? I have a local shop that can CNC my wheel faces but I need to find a source for wheel blanks. I cant find them anywhere... I find cast wheels but everyone knows they are weaker than rotary forged aluminum blanks. any help would be much appreciated. If I can get these done then I will be more than happy to design and have wheels built for the community at as low of a price as I can and pass on the savings to my fellow z brothers. I am talking barely over cost so you guys can get real 3 piece wheels without the 3 piece cost!!! I just get a small piece to cover my time and effort its not my living but something I don't mind doing on the side. Mike __________________ *Shop Cars: 2013 318whp Nismo VspecII 370z SOLD, 2009 1000hp+ 93oct 4.0L TT 370z Fast Intentions STAGE 4 #054*

09-09-2009, 01:48 PM	#3 (permalink)
bullitt5897 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North GA Posts: 6,831 Drives: Twin Turbo Z34 Rep Power: 3682	I will try that... thnx __________________ *Shop Cars: 2013 318whp Nismo VspecII 370z SOLD, 2009 1000hp+ 93oct 4.0L TT 370z Fast Intentions STAGE 4 #054*

09-09-2009, 03:49 PM	#5 (permalink)
bullitt5897 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North GA Posts: 6,831 Drives: Twin Turbo Z34 Rep Power: 3682	I have several CAD programs and a few structural engineers in my company that I am going to pass the idea through. Right now this is all concept and I am trying to find the right sources to be able to do it. Every design I do will go through one of them before I even think about making it. I take no disrespect to what your asking as they are very valid questions to be asking. I run Avacado Studios and we have a few CAD designers in house so I may have them design some wheel faces and I am going to use 6061T forged blocks so I can have a strong wheel face. Like I am saying if its something that I feel comfortable with offering to the community I will. If not then they will stay as my personal project and products. RCZ I respect your opinion as I too track my car and there is no way in heck I am going to put something on my car that could possibly fail. Especially at the speeds and lateral G's we are pushing on the track. I personally was going to track test each design before release. We will see __________________ *Shop Cars: 2013 318whp Nismo VspecII 370z SOLD, 2009 1000hp+ 93oct 4.0L TT 370z Fast Intentions STAGE 4 #054*

09-09-2009, 06:59 PM	#6 (permalink)
DannyGT Track Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Jersey Posts: 919 Drives: 370Z (SOLD) Rep Power: 279	Lets do this...I have access to a metal fab company who can do the work. Only condition is, you have the engineering portion complete and they make it for a good quantity. Other than that. Get a 19x10 & 19x12 blank, copy the HRE P90's, flat front/concave rear...BAM we're done! __________________ Performance GTM Stage 1 SC, GTM Res.Test Pipes, Invidia Gemini Exhaust, GTM HD Oil Cooler Wheels & Suspension AME Tracer TM02's 19x9.5F 19x10.5R w/ 265x35F & 305x30R, Hotchkis Sways, BC (BR) Racing Coilovers (Car Sold)

09-09-2009, 07:54 PM	#7 (permalink)
bullitt5897 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North GA Posts: 6,831 Drives: Twin Turbo Z34 Rep Power: 3682	exactly! __________________ *Shop Cars: 2013 318whp Nismo VspecII 370z SOLD, 2009 1000hp+ 93oct 4.0L TT 370z Fast Intentions STAGE 4 #054*

09-09-2009, 12:10 PM	#2 (permalink)
nogoodname Lifetime Premium Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Montreal Posts: 22,357 Drives: E46 M3 Rep Power: 1765	ask some vendors on here if they got any info

09-09-2009, 02:04 PM	#4 (permalink)
RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1119	You are going to design the wheels? How much experience do you have with building structurally sound wheels for a car that weighs 3200lbs and can go 170mph? I am honestly asking these questions, not putting you down since I would be interested, but are you sure you want to take on that responsibility? What if they fail? I dont know... sounds like one of those things we aught to leave to the pro's. If you are a pro, then awesome, I mean no disrespect.

09-11-2009, 05:17 PM	#8 (permalink)
g96818 Track Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: A rock in a big pond Posts: 681 Drives: 2009 370Z, 2012 M56 Rep Power: 3394	are your structural engineers capable of doing dynamic motion calcs? only reason i ask is cuz the wheel will always be in dynamic motion unless you're stopped and the structural engineering classes i've seen at school only teaches the very basics of dynamics, not the type that will be applied to the wheels. __________________ CZP are lying thieves!

09-11-2009, 05:43 PM	#9 (permalink)
Ryan@Forged The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Marietta/Kennesaw, GA Posts: 1,527 Drives: Evo 8/Evo 9 MR/GTR Rep Power: 0	Honestly, I'm not sure this sounds like a great idea. There is quite a bit more involved than it sounds. You're basically talking about starting up your own wheel manufacturing company. Keep that in mind as well as potential law suits that may follow if the wheels ever fail. There's a difference in being able to physically make a wheel and realistically manufacturing a quality wheel. I hope your CAD programs and your engineers can calculate the stress under extreme abuse to guarantee they will not ever fail. Also you will need to make sure the weight is at an acceptable range, aesthetically pleasing to the eye, hold up over time in both appearance and strength, and are worth the buy over any other wheel manufacturing company available right now. Good luck.

09-11-2009, 06:57 PM	#11 (permalink)
frost Retired admin Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Winterfell Posts: 106,613 Drives: Your Wife Crazy Rep Power: 0	Every great wheel maker started somewhere.

09-11-2009, 07:05 PM	#12 (permalink)
nogoodname Lifetime Premium Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Montreal Posts: 22,357 Drives: E46 M3 Rep Power: 1765	will be interesting to see

09-11-2009, 08:52 PM	#13 (permalink)
bullitt5897 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North GA Posts: 6,831 Drives: Twin Turbo Z34 Rep Power: 3682	I have many options on the table right now. Which option I choose to take IDK... Ryan you point out some great observations that are 100% true and valid. I am working with a few partners to see if this is an endevour we wish to embark on. Only time will tell... __________________ *Shop Cars: 2013 318whp Nismo VspecII 370z SOLD, 2009 1000hp+ 93oct 4.0L TT 370z Fast Intentions STAGE 4 #054*

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