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Hatsuongmai 03-18-2014 08:21 PM

Stud replacement spacers???
 
I have done a lot of research and has read a lot of posts regarding this topic but still can't decide yet. From what I gather so far, using spacers will change the angle and cause premature wear on the bearing, cause stress on the entire suspension, and decrease turn radius (please correct me if I'm wrong). I have the sport wheels and like to push it out a little more for a flush look but too nervous of the draw backs. I understand that it would be better to buy a new set of wheels that have a better offset for a flush look but no $ at the moment :icon14:

For those who are using stud replacement spacers on their Z, I desperately need your feedback on this cuz I'm nervous of having to replace my bearing hubs. Thanks so much!!

DR_ 03-18-2014 09:37 PM

Your car doesn't know any difference if you put spacers on the car or if you put lower offset wheels on the car. They both do the same thing, push the wheel out.
Just get a good brand, like H&R, and you will be fine.

axmea? 03-18-2014 09:57 PM

I've had stud replacement with 20/25 on mine and not have an issue for 7 months/ 12k miles. Bad camber on spacers probably does damage, hub centric ones are the only way to go, and lastly, should be minimal issue with turning radius unless you're putting in some crazy widths. I've since bought some wheels but kept the longer studs.

mab864 03-19-2014 07:25 AM

You'll be fine with a good quality set of hub-centric spacers. I put bolt on H&R 20mm on the front and back of my Z with the sport wheels. Just make sure to torque them down correctly. 10K and no issues here.

Haboob 03-19-2014 08:32 AM

Haven't had any issues with mine (20mm all around) for the last 12mos/25k miles.

I'll be looking to sell them here shortly once I get my new wheels in though. ;) ;)

axmea? 03-19-2014 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haboob (Post 2743244)
Haven't had any issues with mine (20mm all around) for the last 12mos/25k miles.

I'll be looking to sell them here shortly once I get my new wheels in though. ;) ;)

Keep your studs if stud replacement.

Haboob 03-19-2014 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by axmea? (Post 2743247)
Keep your studs if stud replacement.

I don't need to switch back to OEM?

Or do I just need to get new lug nuts (open ended ones)?

axmea? 03-19-2014 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haboob (Post 2743254)
I don't need to switch back to OEM?

Or do I just need to get new lug nuts (open ended ones)?

Unless you are getting a new set of oem lugs you should keep them. I am in the camp that believes used lugs looses its grip (not sure of the exact term) And should not be reused. It has to be tight on the hub. Use open ended nuts if you leave your extended lugs. Looks much better.

kenchan 03-19-2014 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hatsuongmai (Post 2742679)
I have done a lot of research and has read a lot of posts regarding this topic but still can't decide yet. From what I gather so far, using spacers will change the angle and cause premature wear on the bearing, cause stress on the entire suspension, and decrease turn radius (please correct me if I'm wrong). I have the sport wheels and like to push it out a little more for a flush look but too nervous of the draw backs. I understand that it would be better to buy a new set of wheels that have a better offset for a flush look but no $ at the moment :icon14:

For those who are using stud replacement spacers on their Z, I desperately need your feedback on this cuz I'm nervous of having to replace my bearing hubs. Thanks so much!!

well, if that's the case then any aftermarket wheelset that fits the wells correctly ("fits nicely" i should say) will cause bearing failure. that's not the case.

if you're going to stick with the stock ride height, go with below:

front 15mm (stud replacement type)
rear 10mm (stud replacement type)

This will keep your wheels slightly tucked in for a clean look, but with a more aggressive stance than no spacers. you dont want to get big arse spacers unless you're going to lower your ride.

Hatsuongmai 03-19-2014 11:55 AM

Thanks guy. You guys are awesome.... :-) I'm currently on Swift for almost 8k so far. How thick should I go with the HR Trak+ stud replacement spacer for the sport wheels + Swift? Is 20mm all around a good setup and can I reuse the OEM lugs with the stud replacement spacers?

kenchan 03-19-2014 11:58 AM

yah if you're on swifts you can definitely go 20mm all around and make your car look nice.

Hatsuongmai 03-19-2014 03:34 PM

Does any body know how much does the H&R 20.0mm DRS Type TRAK+ Wheel Spacers weight because if each weight 5 lbs, then 20lbs of unsprung weight/rotation mass would be a lot.

axmea? 03-19-2014 05:58 PM

It weighs way less than that. I'd be shocked if it weighed more than 10 for all 4. I'd weigh mine for you but I'm here in Kansas City.

Recommend 20/20 or 20/25 on Sport Rays and use extended lugs for replacement with open ended nuts. As I mentioned earlier. It looks much better plus you have the entire length of the longer, open-wended nuts biting onto the lugs.

tnav 03-19-2014 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haboob (Post 2743244)
Haven't had any issues with mine (20mm all around) for the last 12mos/25k miles.

I'll be looking to sell them here shortly once I get my new wheels in though. ;) ;)

Same/Same

mag_black 03-20-2014 12:14 AM

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20MM all around H&R DRS on Swifts.

Hatsuongmai 03-20-2014 09:47 AM

@axmea?: is there a particular open-wended nuts that you recommend for the sport wheels?

Haboob 03-20-2014 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hatsuongmai (Post 2744975)
@axmea?: is there a particular open-wended nuts that you recommend?

I talked to my buddy and he suggested what the GTR folks run: Titek.

I'm going to look into those, but they're probably $100/wheel. :icon17:

Hatsuongmai 03-20-2014 10:00 AM

oh man...that's a lot

Haboob 03-20-2014 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hatsuongmai (Post 2745017)
oh man...that's a lot

I'm just guessing, lol. I haven't had a chance to look them up yet. Do not take that as a legitimate quote on the price.

Haboob 03-20-2014 10:07 AM

Just looked them up. Looks like $25 for four.

http://titekusa.com/shop/index.php?cPath=22

BrandonSS 03-20-2014 10:11 AM

I cant shake a vibration after installing stud replacement 10mm spacers. I dont know what to do. They are hubcentric (cant recall the name brand, maybe ichiba).

Could a bent or slightly angled stud cause the vibe? I have pulled them off a few times to ensure everything is seated and no luck. I even replaced the front tires and had the new ones road force balanced twice and still getting the vibration.

kenchan 03-20-2014 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrandonSS (Post 2745032)
I cant shake a vibration after installing stud replacement 10mm spacers. I dont know what to do. They are hubcentric (cant recall the name brand, maybe ichiba).

Could a bent or slightly angled stud cause the vibe? I have pulled them off a few times to ensure everything is seated and no luck. I even replaced the front tires and had the new ones road force balanced twice and still getting the vibration.

do those spacers have the lip in the middle?
are you running stock wheels?

BrandonSS 03-20-2014 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2745089)
do those spacers have the lip in the middle?
are you running stock wheels?

If by lip you mean hub centric, yes, they are and do extend the hub. No I'm not running stock wheels. Wheels have been checked and balanced twice. And yes, the aftermarket wheels also have hubcentric rings installed.

http://www.frsport.com/images/detail..._NS50210_1.jpg

Hatsuongmai 03-20-2014 11:05 AM

Does those Titek open-ended lug nuts have problem with Sport Wheels because I read somewhere that our Sport Wheels does not compatible with some of the lug nuts and cause vibration.

Haboob 03-20-2014 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hatsuongmai (Post 2745112)
Does those Titek open-ended lug nuts have problem with Sport Wheels because I read somewhere that our Sport Wheels does not compatible with some of the lug nuts and cause vibration.


Not a clue. I'll PM the company I ordered my wheels from and ask.


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DEpointfive0 03-20-2014 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hatsuongmai (Post 2745112)
Does those Titek open-ended lug nuts have problem with Sport Wheels because I read somewhere that our Sport Wheels does not compatible with some of the lug nuts and cause vibration.

Stock wheels can only use stock lug nuts

Chuck33079 03-20-2014 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2745152)
Stock wheels can only use stock lug nuts

This should be something you have to click during the signup process. Some kind of check box to confirm that it's understood.

DEpointfive0 03-20-2014 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2745160)
This should be something you have to click during the signup process. Some kind of check box to confirm that it's understood.

That, oil, don't buy from GTM, if you get but hurt too quickly GTFO, if you have a 2009-2011 steering lock failure, if you have a manual, your CSC will go out...

Lots of things

Chuck33079 03-20-2014 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2745171)
That, oil, don't buy from GTM, if you get but hurt too quickly GTFO, if you have a 2009-2011 steering lock failure, if you have a manual, your CSC will go out...

Lots of things

Yep. Click to confirm you have been told the following to confirm your new member registration. :rofl2:

axmea? 03-22-2014 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hatsuongmai (Post 2744975)
@axmea?: is there a particular open-wended nuts that you recommend for the sport wheels?

I use Muteki SR48's. Easy on the eyes and the pocket. Some folks don't like it but to each his own. Lots of forum members have it. I've had mine for a while and have taken off my wheels many times. No chipping. If you have an open checkbook, go for project kics, volks racing, and rays. . Me, I'd put my money elsewhere unless your after some serious branding.

Try these to research and help you decide (you owe me on this one)

http://www.the370z.com/wheels-tires/...ive-guide.html

http://www.the370z.com/wheels-tires/...re-thread.html

I also weighed my old 20mm spacers. Under 6 lbs. I don't use it anymore.

[IMG]https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7175/...b7a6c725_c.jpg
DSCN5994 by axmea?, on Flickr[/IMG]

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7055/...ac37e0e9_c.jpg
DSCN5998 by axmea?, on Flickr

Hatsuongmai 03-22-2014 01:42 PM

Thanks for the info.

Read T 03-25-2014 11:01 AM

Just ordered some Gorilla lug nuts, they offer a wide variety in both open and close ended with multiple different designs. One of my buddies had good luck with them at the track so I'll let you know how they do when I get them in.

axmea? 03-27-2014 04:47 PM

Ok, Read T is correct, Gorilla lugs work. I had these with my stock sport Rays. I bought it after finding out sport Rays were being stolen. I have so much sh!t sitting in my garage lockers.


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