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2013Zsport 02-23-2014 04:08 PM

Offset help?
 
I'm looking to buy forgestar f14s and don't want a too aggressive fitment. I would like to get 20x9 or 20x9.5 front and 20x11 R with a 255/35/20f and 285/30/20r. So far I'm going to keep the stock height suspension and camber. I want offsets that are close without rubbing and not quite flush, what offsets should I go with? Please help!

cooltoy 02-23-2014 04:19 PM

Talk to getyourwheels. They will set you up.

http://www.the370z.com/wheels-tires/...p-concave.html

Use this to calculate offsets.

Custom rims, wheel tire packages for your ride - RIMSnTIRES.com

This is a good read.

http://www.the370z.com/wheels-tires/...e-spacers.html

2013Zsport 02-23-2014 04:48 PM

I've used all of these before just wondering how accurate this calculator is?

2013Zsport 02-23-2014 04:50 PM

I was thinking +30f and +28r

cooltoy 02-23-2014 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 2013Zsport (Post 2705300)
I've used all of these before just wondering how accurate this calculator is?

I think its accurate. Just measure your stock rims and how far they are from the edge of the fender (~20 mm I think) and then use the calculator to give you the offset that gets you close to the rim.

2013Zsport 02-23-2014 05:01 PM

Getyourwheels said +20f +15r which is flush but is to aggressive for what I want.

cooltoy 02-23-2014 05:21 PM

+30 front will be sunken in a bit (3 mm), but you can use a slightly wider tire to to get it more flush.

The + 28 rear will be slightly more sunk in then the front (8mm), so a small spacer might be needed.

cooltoy 02-23-2014 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 2013Zsport (Post 2705331)
Getyourwheels said +20f +15r which is flush but is to aggressive for what I want.

Those will stick slightly past (2-5 mm). The rear wil look better as it wil stick out less. You might have to stretch the tires a bit.

cooltoy 02-23-2014 05:28 PM

Tires you are looking at are pretty wide for a conservative set up. They wil definitely stick out a touch even with your desired offsets.

2013Zsport 02-23-2014 05:56 PM

Just went out and measured I have 15mm up front and 19mm in the rear.

2013Zsport 02-23-2014 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by cooltoy (Post 2705355)
Tires you are looking at are pretty wide for a conservative set up. They wil definitely stick out a touch even with your desired offsets.

What do you think I should run for tires? Drop it down a size on F & B?

2013Zsport 02-23-2014 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by cooltoy (Post 2705348)
+30 front will be sunken in a bit (3 mm), but you can use a slightly wider tire to to get it more flush.

The + 28 rear will be slightly more sunk in then the front (8mm), so a small spacer might be needed.

So maybe +23 or +24? The front sounds good! And I think +30 is the highest I can go without hitting the brake calipers.

2013Zsport 02-23-2014 06:44 PM

According to the rimsNtires.com offset calculator I can do a 20x9 +33F with a 245/35/20 and a 20x11 +20 R with a 285/30/20. Front will extend 14mm and rear will extend 15mm. But the Nissansportz.com offset calculator says the front will extend 14mm the same as the rims and tires offset caculator but the rear says it will extend 23mm, so 8mm more than the other calculator did, doesn't make sense!

cooltoy 02-23-2014 07:19 PM

The nice thing about rimsNtires.com is that it shows how far the tires will stick out so you can play around with the tire width. You also got to make sure that the overall diameters are not too different rear to front.

cooltoy 02-23-2014 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 2013Zsport (Post 2705383)
Just went out and measured I have 15mm up front and 19mm in the rear.

Hmmm. That's different from what I measured on pre 2013 models, maybe they changed something on the front. Didi you lay a thin flat object across the diameter of the wheel and measured from that?

cooltoy 02-23-2014 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 2013Zsport (Post 2705395)
So maybe +23 or +24? The front sounds good! And I think +30 is the highest I can go without hitting the brake calipers.

I can't recall the stock rim sizes. I have them at work. I'll check for you tomorrow.

2013Zsport 02-24-2014 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by cooltoy (Post 2705481)
Hmmm. That's different from what I measured on pre 2013 models, maybe they changed something on the front. Didi you lay a thin flat object across the diameter of the wheel and measured from that?

Yes, I used a level. That's the only thing I can think of is that maybe Nissan changed the offsets on the 13s wheels.

2013Zsport 02-24-2014 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by cooltoy (Post 2705482)
I can't recall the stock rim sizes. I have them at work. I'll check for you tomorrow.

Thanks! I think the sport wheels are 19x9f +47 245/40/19 & 19x10r +30 275/35/19 at least 09-12 my13tires are the same maybe the offsets are different, I'll see if I can find anything on that.

Haboob 02-24-2014 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by cooltoy (Post 2705259)

:tup: Thanks for this.

Now if I can figure out how to decipher it. :icon17: So many numbers.

cooltoy 02-24-2014 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by 2013Zsport (Post 2705694)
Thanks! I think the sport wheels are 19x9f +47 245/40/19 & 19x10r +30 275/35/19 at least 09-12 my13tires are the same maybe the offsets are different, I'll see if I can find anything on that.

Same numbers I have seen. Like I said - not sure about 2013-14.

Anyway here as some numbers with different tire options and offsets. I ran your desired offsets and getyuorwheels recommendations. The difference in tire numbers is obviously by how much the tire sticks out past the lip.

Fronts:

255/35/20x9 +30
Will stick out 22 mm farther then stock.
Wheel diameter 686 mm (679 mm stock)
245/35/20x9 +30
Will stick out 17 mm farther then stock.
Wheel diameter 680 mm (679 mm stock)

255/35/20x9 +20
Will stick out 32 mm farther then stock.
Wheel diameter 686 mm (679 mm stock)
245/35/20x9 +20
Will stick out 27 mm farther then stock.
Wheel diameter 680 mm (679 mm stock)


Rear:

285/30/20x11 +28
Will stick out 7 mm farther then stock.
Wheel diameter 680 mm (675 mm stock)
295/30/20x11 +28
Will stick out 12 mm farther then stock.
Wheel diameter 686 mm (679 mm stock)
305/30/20x11 +28
Will stick out 17 mm farther then stock.
Wheel diameter 692 mm (679 mm stock)

285/30/20x11 +15
Will stick out 20 mm farther then stock.
Wheel diameter 680 mm (675 mm stock)
295/30/20x11 +15
Will stick out 25 mm farther then stock.
Wheel diameter 686 mm (675 mm stock)
305/30/20x11 +15
Will stick out 30 mm farther then stock.
Wheel diameter 692 mm (675 mm stock)


285/30/20x11 +23
Will stick out 12 mm farther then stock.
Wheel diameter 680 mm (675 mm stock)
295/30/20x11 +23
Will stick out 17 mm farther then stock.
Wheel diameter 686 mm (675 mm stock)
305/30/20x11 +23
Will stick out 22 mm farther then stock.
Wheel diameter 692 mm (675 mm stock)

Hope this helps.

2013Zsport 02-24-2014 03:20 PM

:tup: it does help thanks! i just got off the phone with Forgestar and they recommended 20x9.5F +25 with a 255/35/20 and a 20x11R +20 with a 295 or 305 tire. I'm still going with a 285 though

cooltoy 02-24-2014 03:36 PM

Let us know how it works out.

2013Zsport 02-24-2014 06:11 PM

I will! Thanks again for your help!

Waiz 02-24-2014 06:31 PM

Make sure you don't go 35 series front and 30 series rear that will lead to this since the front tires overall diameter will be larger than the rear

http://www.the370z.com/brakes-suspen...t-do-i-do.html

I would go 20x9.5 (+20) with 255-30-20 front and 20x10.5 (+15) with 285-30-20 rear if I was choosing this wheel

cooltoy 02-24-2014 08:13 PM

Not questioning just trying to learn.

How come the stock wheels are 40 in the front and 35 in the back? Those are different, should they not cause a similar issue?

Is it because you want to keep the rear and front diameters similar? Aren't the numbers I ran within reasonable limit?

Waiz 02-25-2014 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by cooltoy (Post 2706834)
Not questioning just trying to learn.

How come the stock wheels are 40 in the front and 35 in the back? Those are different, should they not cause a similar issue?

Is it because you want to keep the rear and front diameters similar? Aren't the numbers I ran within reasonable limit?

All depends on the sizing, VDC is generally happy if you can maintain stagger with the fronts being less than 1% greater than the rears

The stock setup of 245-40-19 and 275-35-19 rear is .5% larger in the front which will not be detected by the VDC/TCS

255-35-20 & 285-30-20 is 1.1% larger in front which could possibly risk the VDC/TCS going off with

Best way to be safe is to use a tire size calculator:

Tire size calculator

Reference:

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cooltoy 02-25-2014 07:51 PM

Thank you.


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