Lug Nuts - The definitive guide

merkil · 05-23-2014, 06:22 PM

Hey guys,

I know the stock Rays use a mag style lug but has anyone tried any adaptors like this:

Gorilla 79916 $2.99 Lug Nut Washers Tapered/Flat Adapter Style

Wouldn't this allow aftermarket lugs on stock wheels and still be safe??

kenchan · 05-23-2014, 07:33 PM

that is a very interesting adapter indeed.

kenchan · 05-23-2014, 07:39 PM

i guess my biggest concern would be how many threads the tapered lugs would lose due to the adapter thickness?

if the tapered lugs can have at least 10mm of thread then that could work if the lugs are steel. not sure about those duraluminum lugs. they strip pretty easily.

DEpointfive0 · 05-23-2014, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan

i guess my biggest concern would be how many threads the tapered lugs would lose due to the adapter thickness?

if the tapered lugs can have at least 10mm of thread then that could work if the lugs are steel. not sure about those duraluminum lugs. they strip pretty easily.

Kenchan, you don't need 10mm of thread, lol
But yes, the more the better

merkil · 05-23-2014, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan

that is a very interesting adapter indeed.

I know. I guess my only concern would be the stud length. Would there still be enough stud for proper safety?

They also have

Excalibur 787 $2.69 Lug Nut Washers Tapered/Flat Adapter Style

and

Excalibur 788 $2.69 Lug Nut Washers Tapered/Flat Adapter Style

It took me a good while to find something like this lol

Edit: thickness seems to be 0.20"-0.30" depending on adapter.

kenchan · 05-23-2014, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

Kenchan, you don't need 10mm of thread, lol
But yes, the more the better

DE go work on your engine. leave wheels and suspension to me.

kenchan · 05-23-2014, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merkil

I know. I guess my only concern would be the stud length. Would there still be enough stud for proper safety?

They also have

Excalibur 787 $2.69 Lug Nut Washers Tapered/Flat Adapter Style

and

Excalibur 788 $2.69 Lug Nut Washers Tapered/Flat Adapter Style

It took me a good while to find something like this lol

Edit: thickness seems to be 0.20"-0.30" depending on adapter.

yah... considering most applications allows up to 5mm spacers (spacers between hub and wheel) for steel lugs, i think they would work. i just can't say for sure.

wat im saying is if those adapters are less than 5mm thick at the base of the tapered contact area, it is the same as putting on a max 5mm spacer.

kenchan · 05-23-2014, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan

yah... considering most applications allows up to 5mm spacers (spacers between hub and wheel) for steel lugs, i think they would work. i just can't say for sure.

wat im saying is if those adapters are less than 5mm thick at the base of the tapered contact area, it is the same as putting on a max 5mm spacer.

DISCLAIMER: the above post was only for explanation.

this is NOT to be confused as saying running 5mm spacers on the factory hubcentric wheels is okay. that is NOT okay. only time one can use max 5mm spacers without stud replacement is on tapered lug wheels (which are lug-centric) and 10mm or more threads for steel lugs. even that is not recommended for track use.

merkil · 05-23-2014, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan

yah... considering most applications allows up to 5mm spacers (spacers between hub and wheel) for steel lugs, i think they would work. i just can't say for sure.

wat im saying is if those adapters are less than 5mm thick at the base of the tapered contact area, it is the same as putting on a max 5mm spacer.

Ok. I get what your saying but what is the degree of taper of the head on aftermarket lugs so that they seat properly?

The one adapter is only 0.20' (5.08mm) thick and has a small shank to fit inside but the seat is only 45 deg taper. The original one I linked is 0.25'' (6.35mm) but at 60 deg taper for the seat, so this might be close

I would buy a few to tryout cause they have a no hassle return policy but I don't have aftermarket lugs.

Im hoping these will be a game changer for ppl with stock sport rays and want aftermarket lugs! .....like myself

forza370z · 05-24-2014, 12:58 AM

Ah okay... after little research, the 2 piece Kics lug nut's body is made of cold forged SCM-435 which is alloy steel while the taper seat is made of A7075-T6 aluminum and ultra-hard aluminite finish.

onzedge · 05-24-2014, 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan

DISCLAIMER: the above post was only for explanation.

this is NOT to be confused as saying running 5mm spacers on the factory hubcentric wheels is okay. that is NOT okay. only time one can use max 5mm spacers without stud replacement is on tapered lug wheels (which are lug-centric) and 10mm or more threads for steel lugs. even that is not recommended for track use.

Bodytechz · 05-24-2014, 11:09 AM

Would be great to know if anyone has tried these spacers on out OEM wheels and what tuner lugs they used.

merkil · 06-14-2014, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bodytechz

Would be great to know if anyone has tried these spacers on out OEM wheels and what tuner lugs they used.

Unfortunately I have tried to get the gorilla 60 deg seat lug adaptors that I linked but since I live in Canada shipping is just ridiculous for one washer to test. I even called and asked to have then just throw a washer in an envelope and use regular letter mail. No go.

Can anyone in the USA order one and test fit? I'm willing to send like $5 to anyone who can.

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kenchan · 06-14-2014, 01:11 PM

not for $5..

onzedge · 06-19-2014, 09:53 AM

Are there any aftermarket lug nuts that work with stock Rays?

05-23-2014, 06:22 PM	#91 (permalink)
merkil Base Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Brantford, Ontario Posts: 63 Drives: 2011 370z Rep Power: 12	Hey guys, I know the stock Rays use a mag style lug but has anyone tried any adaptors like this: Gorilla 79916 $2.99 Lug Nut Washers Tapered/Flat Adapter Style Wouldn't this allow aftermarket lugs on stock wheels and still be safe?? kenchan and forza370z like this.

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forza370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: 403 Forbidden Posts: 2,512 Drives: 2009 NISMO 370Z Rep Power: 19	Ah okay... after little research, the 2 piece Kics lug nut's body is made of cold forged SCM-435 which is alloy steel while the taper seat is made of A7075-T6 aluminum and ultra-hard aluminite finish. DEpointfive0 likes this. __________________ 09 PW 370z Nismo \| K&N Drop Ins \| HKS Hi Power \| Berk HFCs \| Work Meister S1 3P \| Project Kics R40 Neo Chrome Lug Nuts \| KW V1 \| SPC rear camber arms/toe bolts \| Southbend Stage 3 daily clutch \| Southband 19Ib Steel Flywheel \| ZSpeed CSC

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kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	that is a very interesting adapter indeed.

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kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	i guess my biggest concern would be how many threads the tapered lugs would lose due to the adapter thickness? if the tapered lugs can have at least 10mm of thread then that could work if the lugs are steel. not sure about those duraluminum lugs. they strip pretty easily.

05-24-2014, 11:09 AM	#102 (permalink)
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