Lug Nuts - The definitive guide

osbornsm · 11-27-2013, 12:02 PM

Lug Nut Types

There are several different types of lug nuts available, depending on the type of wheel you have.

Ball Seat
Cone Seat
Washer (OEM)

Additionally there is a thread pattern / pitch for our lug bolts.

Size: 12x1.25

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Lug Manufacturers

Brands worth shopping

Blox Racing (Magnesium alloy)
Drop Engineering
Muteki (I wouldn’t buy these)
Project Kics
Rays / Volk
- Short - 27mm
- Standard - 35mm
- Medium Length - 42mm
Skunk2
Titek
Work
- RS Lugs (Closed End Alum)
- RS-R Lugs (Open End Alum)
- RS-Z Lugs (Open End Steel)

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Notes / FAQ

Some Lugs are counterfeit
Some Lugs are just too expensive
Buy from a trusted forum vendor instead of saving a few dollars on eBay.
If you over torque or use an impact gun on lug nuts be prepared for BROKEN lugs or studs.

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Lug Weights

Now that we know that we want lightweight lugs... what ARE the weight savings??

370z Washer Lug = 2.69 oz
Rays 42mm Lug = 0.75 oz

Doing some math gives us the total weight before and after:

OEM - 53.8 oz
Rays - 15.0 oz

With the total weight savings coming out to: 38.8 oz or 2.4 pounds.

chops · 11-30-2013, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by osbornsm

Muteki (I wouldn’t buy these)

nothing wrong with muteki IMO

kenchan · 11-30-2013, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chops

nothing wrong with muteki IMO

I run steel muteki's. Very good quality. Paint don't chip off or lugs rust like some of the others.

chops · 11-30-2013, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan

I run steel muteki's. Very good quality. Paint don't chip off or lugs rust like some of the others.

i think the general dislike about them are paint chipping because people buy fakes from ebay. people need to buy everything from a reputable source!

VincentLe · 12-02-2013, 11:50 PM

how do you know what type of lug nut to use with what wheel?

Holy · 12-03-2013, 12:09 AM

The shop that currently has my car has put on VMS steel lugs. Ever heard of them?

Chan Chee Hoe · 12-03-2013, 07:26 AM

I wonder what is the best nuts[lighter ones] for O.E.M. wheels.?

JARblue · 12-03-2013, 08:37 AM

Good info

Now if they would just make some good looking aftermarket lugs that are acorn/tapered style. I shouldn't have to purchase new wheels to use the lug nuts I want to use

TheGreatOne · 12-03-2013, 09:44 AM

Nice List

I picked up Project Kics in Titanium. At first I was like why am I paying $200 for lug nuts, but then I'm putting about $5000 in rims and tires on my car...why not.

Also there are reputable sellers on Ebay, you can usually tell just by the price difference and where they are located. Actually Fuzz Nissan and other vendors we like sell on there too.

wheee! · 12-03-2013, 10:13 AM

What about running aluminum lug nuts on steel studs? Another member had to drill out his aluminum lug nuts after they seized onto his steel studs... Is this common?

SouthArk370Z · 12-03-2013, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wheee!

What about running aluminum lug nuts on steel studs? Another member had to drill out his aluminum lug nuts after they seized onto his steel studs... Is this common?

At least two mechanisms that can cause fasteners to seize - galvanic action between dissimilar metals and dirt on the threads. Clean the threads before installing and don't overtighten. To prevent corrosion/rust, I will sometimes put anti-seize compound (eg, Never-seez) on the threads.

wheee! · 12-03-2013, 10:52 AM

But is the galvanic action an unstoppable result of the two dissimiliar metals? Will the anti-seize cause the lugs to loosen unnecessarily? Is it better to use steel lugs on steel studs? Or is Titanium a better choice/less reaction? Thanks!

ZMan8 · 12-03-2013, 11:01 AM

Nice summary Sean

you have been repped

osbornsm · 12-03-2013, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

Galvanic action between dissimilar metals...
To prevent corrosion/rust, I will sometimes put anti-seize compound on the threads.

How can someone make a high level chemistry comment involving Galvanic process and then make the WORST RECOMMENDATION??

DO NOT put anti-sieze on your lug nuts. Friction is a good thing sometimes. Just wire-brush the bolts before torquing down.

SouthArk370Z · 12-03-2013, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by osbornsm

How can someone make a high level chemistry comment involving Galvanic process and then make the WORST RECOMMENDATION??

DO NOT put anti-sieze on your lug nuts. Friction is a good thing sometimes. Just wire-brush the bolts before torquing down.

Anti-seize will not cause the nuts to come loose if they are torqued to the proper value. It does provide some lubrication for the threads, so, if you're real picky, you may want to adjust tightening torque. It works great at preventing rust/corrosion/galling (if you are using stainless-on-stainless fasteners, some form of anti-seize is a must to minimize galling) and makes removal much easier.

11-27-2013, 12:02 PM	#1 (permalink)
osbornsm A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: WHAT Posts: 2,551 Drives: 2018 Camaro SS 1LE Rep Power: 424	Lug Nuts - The definitive guide Lug Nut Types There are several different types of lug nuts available, depending on the type of wheel you have. Ball Seat Cone Seat Washer (OEM) Additionally there is a thread pattern / pitch for our lug bolts. Size: 12x1.25 --------------------------------------------------------------- Lug Manufacturers Brands worth shopping Blox Racing (Magnesium alloy) Drop Engineering Muteki (I wouldn’t buy these) Project Kics Rays / Volk Short - 27mm Standard - 35mm Medium Length - 42mm Skunk2 Titek Work RS Lugs (Closed End Alum) RS-R Lugs (Open End Alum) RS-Z Lugs (Open End Steel) --------------------------------------------------------------- Notes / FAQ Some Lugs are counterfeit Some Lugs are just too expensive Buy from a trusted forum vendor instead of saving a few dollars on eBay. If you over torque or use an impact gun on lug nuts be prepared for BROKEN lugs or studs. --------------------------------------------------------------- Lug Weights Now that we know that we want lightweight lugs... what ARE the weight savings?? 370z Washer Lug = 2.69 oz Rays 42mm Lug = 0.75 oz Doing some math gives us the total weight before and after: OEM - 53.8 oz Rays - 15.0 oz With the total weight savings coming out to: 38.8 oz or 2.4 pounds. gbrettin, JARblue, ZMan8 and 5 others like this. __________________ 2018 Camaro SS 1LE (455hp) - 2011 Nissan 370z (333hp) - 2004 VW R32 (240hp) - 2000 Civic Si (160hp) Last edited by osbornsm; 12-12-2013 at 10:09 AM.

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Holy Base Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: South Florida Posts: 96 Drives: 6 MT 370z MB Rep Power: 12	The shop that currently has my car has put on VMS steel lugs. Ever heard of them? __________________

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JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 43 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684440	Good info Now if they would just make some good looking aftermarket lugs that are acorn/tapered style. I shouldn't have to purchase new wheels to use the lug nuts I want to use ZMan8 and shue88 like this. __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

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TheGreatOne A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Montreal, Canada Age: 46 Posts: 1,980 Drives: E60 BMW M5 Rep Power: 21	Nice List I picked up Project Kics in Titanium. At first I was like why am I paying $200 for lug nuts, but then I'm putting about $5000 in rims and tires on my car...why not. Also there are reputable sellers on Ebay, you can usually tell just by the price difference and where they are located. Actually Fuzz Nissan and other vendors we like sell on there too. __________________ 2017 SUBARU STI 2008 E60 M5 - SOLD 2010 40th Anniversary 370Z - SOLD (and missing her)

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wheee! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Mod Capital of Canada Age: 57 Posts: 7,354 Drives: cars. lots of cars. Rep Power: 40182	What about running aluminum lug nuts on steel studs? Another member had to drill out his aluminum lug nuts after they seized onto his steel studs... Is this common? __________________ H&R / Stillen / Berk / HKS / Swift / Michelin / UpRev / SPC / Amuse Rep / Seibon / Fringe XVO / TWM / more... My Journal

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VincentLe Base Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Garland Posts: 128 Drives: 09 Nissan 370z Red Rep Power: 12	how do you know what type of lug nut to use with what wheel?

12-03-2013, 07:26 AM	#7 (permalink)
Chan Chee Hoe Track Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Singapore Posts: 861 Drives: 370z,Yellow,7sp A Rep Power: 17	I wonder what is the best nuts[lighter ones] for O.E.M. wheels.?

12-03-2013, 10:52 AM	#12 (permalink)
wheee! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Mod Capital of Canada Age: 57 Posts: 7,354 Drives: cars. lots of cars. Rep Power: 40182	But is the galvanic action an unstoppable result of the two dissimiliar metals? Will the anti-seize cause the lugs to loosen unnecessarily? Is it better to use steel lugs on steel studs? Or is Titanium a better choice/less reaction? Thanks! __________________ H&R / Stillen / Berk / HKS / Swift / Michelin / UpRev / SPC / Amuse Rep / Seibon / Fringe XVO / TWM / more... My Journal

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ZMan8 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 5,844 Drives: 10 370z 40th M6 Rep Power: 659	Nice summary Sean you have been repped osbornsm likes this. __________________ 2010 370Z 40 Anniv., 6 MT \| Fast Intentions \| Swift Springs \| SPC \| Z1Motorsports \| JWM \| Redline Oils \| 35% Window Tint 2015 Mazda6 \| 370ZChicago: Chicago Area Cars & Coffee

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