Lug Nuts - The definitive guide

fuct · 12-18-2013, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by equalme

So looks like I will need washer type lugs which the muteki are not?

ding ding ding, we have a winner!

wstar · 12-17-2013, 09:25 AM

Yes, the stock wheels need the washer-style, the Muteki's are cones.

GaleForce · 12-18-2013, 10:05 AM

So where are we at in regards to Aluminium nuts? These are 7075 T6 aluminum, which is very strong from what I understand (I'm not a metallurgist though). If torqued properly = ok? Add anti-seize to be safe = good to go?

Waiz · 12-18-2013, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GaleForce

So where are we at in regards to Aluminium nuts? These are 7075 T6 aluminum, which is very strong from what I understand (I'm not a metallurgist though). If torqued properly = ok? Add anti-seize to be safe = good to go?

If you plan on removing your wheels alot I would pass, otherwise they are fine to use

Under no circumstance should you use anti-seeze on your lugs or studs though

kenchan · 12-18-2013, 01:10 PM

mr.gale- im sure they do fine as long as you use the entire thread allowed and 80lbs/ft.

minimum thread needed is 10mm for steel lugs, so perhaps you might need 13-14mm just to be on the safe side. i too have no scientific data on the strengths.

however i do know they strip a lot easier than steel lugs.

fuct · 12-19-2013, 07:47 AM

GaleForce · 12-19-2013, 08:12 AM

Thank you for the help guys.

forza370z · 05-22-2014, 11:51 PM

So Kics R40 is made of aluminum? Is it easy to get scratched off or broken after few uses? This is a great thread. But could we add what material is used for each lug nut?

DEpointfive0 · 05-23-2014, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by forza370z

So Kics R40 is made of aluminum? Is it easy to get scratched off or broken after few uses? This is a great thread. But could we add what material is used for each lug nut?

I guess, they aren't that light, but they aren't steel for sure. When I got Mutekis in I lifted the box, then put RTS on it and sent it back, THOSE were heavy.

No scratches you can see easily to be honest with multiple on/offs, and never heard of one breaking, but most track guys ain't going to track on $300 lugs

Wonka2581 · 05-23-2014, 02:04 AM

Just get some BOLX Titanium lugs.... I love mine..

equalme · 05-23-2014, 04:26 AM

I was too overwhelmed by lug choice so I just went with the tried and true Mcgards spline drives. They are a two piece design to prevent gouging when tightening the lugs down like Kics, and they also warranty coating chips.

forza370z · 05-23-2014, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

I guess, they aren't that light, but they aren't steel for sure. When I got Mutekis in I lifted the box, then put RTS on it and sent it back, THOSE were heavy.

No scratches you can see easily to be honest with multiple on/offs, and never heard of one breaking, but most track guys ain't going to track on $300 lugs

So what's actually made Kics so expensive than others besides lighter? Are they strong?

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Originally Posted by Wonka2581

Just get some BOLX Titanium lugs.... I love mine..

Yea I heard good things about BLOX. They are forged and strong.

DEpointfive0 · 05-23-2014, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by forza370z

So what's actually made Kics so expensive than others besides lighter? Are they strong?

Yea I heard good things about BLOX. They are forged and strong.

Honestly?
HellaJDM-YO!
They are lighter, stronger, and you pay for quality (hellaJDM-yo) as well as "technology"; what I mean by that is that the lugs are 2 piece, and the lug turns rotational energy into straight line force
(Not sure if that makes sense... But... If you look on them, you turn the lug clockwise and the end piece stays on the same spot of your wheel, causing less wear to the wheel as well as providing more equal pressure that is also much harder to come off even when improperly torqued, all that makes it "safer"; how much safer. Not at all because almost no one complains about their car crashing because of a broken or missing lug)

forza370z · 05-23-2014, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

Honestly?
HellaJDM-YO!
They are lighter, stronger, and you pay for quality (hellaJDM-yo) as well as "technology"; what I mean by that is that the lugs are 2 piece, and the lug turns rotational energy into straight line force
(Not sure if that makes sense... But... If you look on them, you turn the lug clockwise and the end piece stays on the same spot of your wheel, causing less wear to the wheel as well as providing more equal pressure that is also much harder to come off even when improperly torqued, all that makes it "safer"; how much safer. Not at all because almost no one complains about their car crashing because of a broken or missing lug)

Oh I see the 2 piece part. So the surface that contacts the wheel doesn't actually rotate when you bolt it on thus protects the wheel paint. I see... They better be good coz I ordered them(it's included in my wheel deal) haha! And yea, HellaJDM-YO! Lol

DEpointfive0 · 05-23-2014, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by forza370z

Oh I see the 2 piece part. So the surface that contacts the wheel doesn't actually rotate when you bolt it on thus protects the wheel paint. I see... They better be good coz I ordered them(it's included in my wheel deal) haha! And yea, HellaJDM-YO! Lol

It still turns a bit, so the paint will come off, but it don't keep taking slivers off over and over.

Did they ship out yet? Because I'd order the REVOs. Not as "cool" because they're not really close ended, but you won't see the rust that forms inside the lugs

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12-18-2013, 10:05 AM	#3 (permalink)
GaleForce A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 21,749 Drives: Varis Arising II Rep Power: 51865	So where are we at in regards to Aluminium nuts? These are 7075 T6 aluminum, which is very strong from what I understand (I'm not a metallurgist though). If torqued properly = ok? Add anti-seize to be safe = good to go? __________________ >>>GaleForce's Build<<< >>>FaceBook @3GsCustoms<<<>>>Instagram @GaleForce370z<<< Varis Kamikaze-Z

12-18-2013, 01:10 PM	#5 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	mr.gale- im sure they do fine as long as you use the entire thread allowed and 80lbs/ft. minimum thread needed is 10mm for steel lugs, so perhaps you might need 13-14mm just to be on the safe side. i too have no scientific data on the strengths. however i do know they strip a lot easier than steel lugs. GaleForce likes this.

12-19-2013, 08:12 AM	#7 (permalink)
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Wonka2581 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 3,083 Drives: MY WIFE CRAZY.... Rep Power: 2612	Just get some BOLX Titanium lugs.... I love mine.. __________________ "I have nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears and sweat""Winston Churchill"

05-23-2014, 04:26 AM	#11 (permalink)
equalme Track Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kansas City Posts: 656 Drives: RCF Rep Power: 14	I was too overwhelmed by lug choice so I just went with the tried and true Mcgards spline drives. They are a two piece design to prevent gouging when tightening the lugs down like Kics, and they also warranty coating chips. __________________ ---Get your door handles painted---

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