So what's actually made Kics so expensive than others besides lighter? Are they strong?

Yea I heard good things about BLOX. They are forged and strong.

Honestly?
HellaJDM-YO!
They are lighter, stronger, and you pay for quality (hellaJDM-yo) as well as "technology"; what I mean by that is that the lugs are 2 piece, and the lug turns rotational energy into straight line force
(Not sure if that makes sense... But... If you look on them, you turn the lug clockwise and the end piece stays on the same spot of your wheel, causing less wear to the wheel as well as providing more equal pressure that is also much harder to come off even when improperly torqued, all that makes it "safer"; how much safer. Not at all because almost no one complains about their car crashing because of a broken or missing lug)

Oh I see the 2 piece part. So the surface that contacts the wheel doesn't actually rotate when you bolt it on thus protects the wheel paint. I see... They better be good coz I ordered them(it's included in my wheel deal) haha! And yea, HellaJDM-YO! Lol:tup::shakes head:

It still turns a bit, so the paint will come off, but it don't keep taking slivers off over and over.

Did they ship out yet? Because I'd order the REVOs. Not as "cool" because they're not really close ended, but you won't see the rust that forms inside the lugs

Gotcha.:tiphat: Yea I already ordered but it's on back order now. I didn't know REVOs. Are they the same price?

Then get the REVOs, they SHOULD BE $30-32 more because that's the cost of the caps, not sure why RavSpec wants $50 extra...

I see. Thanks Andrew!

What do you guys think about NRG lug nuts?

http://www.fortyone.co.nz/part_image...ch_lugnuts.jpg
You mean these? Super expensive :tup:

I can vouch for the weight of the Kics R40s. I've had them before I purchased my project mu lugs and the kics are significantly lighter.

Great! Thanks for the info.:tiphat:

Hey guys,

I know the stock Rays use a mag style lug but has anyone tried any adaptors like this:

Gorilla 79916 $2.99 Lug Nut Washers Tapered/Flat Adapter Style

Wouldn't this allow aftermarket lugs on stock wheels and still be safe??

that is a very interesting adapter indeed. :D

i guess my biggest concern would be how many threads the tapered lugs would lose due to the adapter thickness? :confused: if the tapered lugs can have at least 10mm of thread then that could work if the lugs are steel. not sure about those duraluminum lugs. they strip pretty easily.

Kenchan, you don't need 10mm of thread, lol
But yes, the more the better

I know. I guess my only concern would be the stud length. Would there still be enough stud for proper safety?

They also have

Excalibur 787 $2.69 Lug Nut Washers Tapered/Flat Adapter Style

and

Excalibur 788 $2.69 Lug Nut Washers Tapered/Flat Adapter Style

It took me a good while to find something like this lol

Edit: thickness seems to be 0.20"-0.30" depending on adapter.

:icon08: DE go work on your engine. leave wheels and suspension to me. :gtfo2:









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yah... considering most applications allows up to 5mm spacers (spacers between hub and wheel) for steel lugs, i think they would work. i just can't say for sure.

wat im saying is if those adapters are less than 5mm thick at the base of the tapered contact area, it is the same as putting on a max 5mm spacer.

DISCLAIMER: the above post was only for explanation.

this is NOT to be confused as saying running 5mm spacers on the factory hubcentric wheels is okay. that is NOT okay. only time one can use max 5mm spacers without stud replacement is on tapered lug wheels (which are lug-centric) and 10mm or more threads for steel lugs. even that is not recommended for track use.

Ok. I get what your saying but what is the degree of taper of the head on aftermarket lugs so that they seat properly?

The one adapter is only 0.20' (5.08mm) thick and has a small shank to fit inside but the seat is only 45 deg taper. The original one I linked is 0.25'' (6.35mm) but at 60 deg taper for the seat, so this might be close:confused:

I would buy a few to tryout cause they have a no hassle return policy but I don't have aftermarket lugs.

Im hoping these will be a game changer for ppl with stock sport rays and want aftermarket lugs! .....like myself

Ah okay... after little research, the 2 piece Kics lug nut's body is made of cold forged SCM-435 which is alloy steel while the taper seat is made of A7075-T6 aluminum and ultra-hard aluminite finish.:tup:

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Would be great to know if anyone has tried these spacers on out OEM wheels and what tuner lugs they used. :pics:

Unfortunately I have tried to get the gorilla 60 deg seat lug adaptors that I linked but since I live in Canada shipping is just ridiculous for one washer to test. I even called and asked to have then just throw a washer in an envelope and use regular letter mail. No go.

Can anyone in the USA order one and test fit? I'm willing to send like $5 to anyone who can.


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not for $5.. :ugh:


:icon17: ;)

Are there any aftermarket lug nuts that work with stock Rays?

not that i know of... one would probably have to use that tapered adapter.

or there was someone that put plastic caps over the lugs... :ugh:

Do you have a source for the tapered adapter? Just curious.

Please look at ordering one of these adapters to test out.

http://www.brandsport.com/grla-79916.html

Like I mentioned in my post above they want to charge me $20 USD to ship one washer to me in Canada to test, which is ridiculous.



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:tup:

merkil will pay you $5 too :tup: :ugh:

Np.

If you actually order some please let us know. If there is enough bite with the adapter and aftermarket lug then the aftermarket lugs with stock wheels issue is solved!


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i kinda like my stock lugs on my hypersilver nismos? :confused:

:p

kenchan :gtfo2:

Lol. I have no problem contributing a little if he wants to test one out cause I think they will probably work with steel aftermarket lugs.

I just refuse to pay $20 usd for one adapter.


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i wonder how much the aftermarket lug would stick out using those collars and stock wheels.

for my nismo wheels, one would probably need to find a really short lug to make it look right...otherwise it'll protrude out too far. not that i plan on getting aftermarket lugs for my factory wheels.

The collars appear to add very little to the overall height.

yes, but looking at the stock lug vs aftermarket, stock lug's visible area (the hex area) is pretty short.
that would mean your selection of aftermarket lugs would be limited to pretty short lugs.

like this... would need stubby short nuts. :ugh: at least on my nismo wheels most aftermarket
lugs would protrude too much, i thinks.

http://www.dragtimes.com/images-clas...0490723893.jpg

I'm the plastic cap guy. Only alternative was powder coating the OEM lugs. Not sure how that would work, only that the plastic caps were less than $20 to evaluate the color and the concept. If I like it as time goes by, maybe I'll get my lug nuts powder coated in red or black. Or just pull the caps off and leave them silver. I'm not sure yet, but I don't have much invested in the process at this point.

http://ssequine.net/potenzas.jpg

This is a personal preference, like any other mod.


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