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cptspeed 08-14-2009 10:06 AM

vibration probs with wheel spacers
 
I was just wondering if those who installed ichiba version 1 spacers have the 19" stock rays wheels. I had them on my car and got vibrations from them. I went to a shop and we compared them to another exact set and found no defects. They also checked for install issues and found none. We took the spacers off and the problem went away. Can anyone suggest another brand that I can try that definitely works w/the rays wheels?

Mike 08-14-2009 11:32 AM

I have vibrations I am trying to work out too. I took the rear spacers off, but not the front, as the new studs don't want to come back out too easily, and I don't have any open end lugnuts, so I was just going to wait until I got my track wheels and see what happens with them before doing anything else.

antennahead 08-14-2009 09:34 PM

There are quite a few guys here that have the Ichiba spacers, I was thinking about getting them myself. The title of this thread needs to be changed from "spacers" to "hubcentric spacers causing vibration", or something similar, to get everyone's attention. No offense, but the thread title makes everyone think it is another generic spacer thread. I would love to see more discussion on this from other Ichiba users.

John

Brazilbro 08-15-2009 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by antennahead (Post 151612)
There are quite a few guys here that have the Ichiba spacers, I was thinking about getting them myself. The title of this thread needs to be changed from "spacers" to "hubcentric spacers causing vibration", or something similar, to get everyone's attention. No offense, but the thread title makes everyone think it is another generic spacer thread. I would love to see more discussion on this from other Ichiba users.

John

:iagree:
I walked by this thread a few times now, I wish I hadnt, I'm getting ready to buy some spacers but now I'm thinking twice!

antennahead 08-15-2009 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Brazilbro (Post 151744)
:iagree:
I walked by this thread a few times now, I wish I hadnt, I'm getting ready to buy some spacers but now I'm thinking twice!

Yep, wish the OP would show up and change the thread name.

John

370z4Steve 08-15-2009 12:21 AM

spacers can complicate things thats for sure..

antennahead 08-15-2009 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by 370z4Steve (Post 151752)
spacers can complicate things thats for sure..

Some real reputable guys here are using the Ichiba spacers and have reported no issues. On the other hand, Mike is an experienced source as well, and reports vibration also. I hope other users chime in here.

John

antennahead 08-16-2009 09:29 PM

bump

Mike 08-17-2009 09:27 PM

Well, I just bought a set of 4 rear 350Z Rays track wheels and have sent them off to Weldcraft for widening. Should be 2-3 weeks til I get them and get the track tires mounted, then we will see if I have the same vibrations with 2 different sets of wheels. If I do, I will get some open ended lugnuts for the track wheels so I can take the spacers off and still use the long studs, and see if it vibrates without the spacers.

ZForce 08-20-2009 01:11 AM

I am looking into wheel spacers..Ichiba. Would also like to hear from more of any issues. I may have to spring for the extra $$ and go with H&R wheel spacers.

Does the OP indicate what size spacers he is using?

Subscribing

Mike 08-20-2009 08:19 AM

I don't think he does, but I am running 15mm in the front with longer studs. Not running any in the rears. Should have my new wheels in 2-3 weeks to try another set and see if its tires or spacers.

ZForce 08-20-2009 08:37 AM

Darn, and I was hoping you were going to say 20mm in the front. Well I am going to have to sit on the fence until someone finds out if its the spacers or what causing the vibration.

fyi...Minicobra1 (Braden) is also running 15mm in the front. A blip on this issue has been posted to his Eibach thread. Hopefully he will chime in with some feedback.

g/l on the new wheels, keep us posted.

Thx
Curtis

Modshack 08-20-2009 11:17 AM

Ichiba 15mm front (Type 1) and 15 rear (type 2)...

No issues at all...

http://images52.fotki.com/v1554/phot...MG_2005-vi.jpg

http://images49.fotki.com/v855/photo...MG_2003-vi.jpg

Zerafian 08-20-2009 11:34 AM

I have used spacers numberous times and am currently. All you need to do is make sure you have version 2 with the extended studs already attached to the spacer and hubcentric rings....thats it.

But from what I remember you HAVE TO get V1 for the front?

ZForce 08-20-2009 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 160433)
Ichiba 15mm front (Type 1) and 15 rear (type 2)...

No issues at all...

I am curious as to the reason for mixing Type 1 & 2?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Zerafian (Post 160482)
I have used spacers numberous times and am currently. All you need to do is make sure you have version 2 with the extended studs already attached to the spacer and hubcentric rings....thats it.

But from what I remember you HAVE TO get V1 for the front?

Below is a message from Minicobra1 from his thread on Eibach springs and Wheel Spacers.

Thread can be found here: http://www.the370z.com/159679-post96.html


Quote:

Originally Posted by Minicobra1 (Post 159679)
Hey Curtis,

Sorry, haven't been on here in awhile. :tup:

1) Version 1, (stud replacement) safer, lighter, plus bolt on style doesn't fit
the front rims b/c the cut outs are not deep enough in the back to clear
the protruding studs.

2) Stud replacement
3) Front 15mm
4) Rear 20mm
5) 20mm will work fine on front, as far as going larger in the rear, 25mm
would work, but I wouldn't recommend it, unless you plan on never going
wider then the stock 275mm tire. If you want to run wider tires I would
stick with the 20mm out back.
These are the latest pics that Berk took , this is after the SPC camber arms on the rear were installed. LINK: http://www.the370z.com/intake-exhaus...tml#post110864



Below is another post from: http://www.the370z.com/160178-post104.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by antennahead (Post 159952)
Hey guys. There are a few members on this thread: http://www.the370z.com/wheels-tires/7937-spacers.html that are having vibration issues with the Ichiba spacers. I know there are many here who are using them with no issues and recommend them. Anyone who would care to comment would be appreciated. I was going to put them on my 370 with the 19" Rays like most have, but am curious as to why these guys are having issues. Thanks.

John

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minicobra1 (Post 160178)
I haven't had any issues with vibration, had the car in the triple digits and still no problems. make sure the wheel is seated properly on the centering ring, replacement studs are pressed in and seated flush on the hub flange. I torque my wheels at 85ft lbs (+5lbs over spec) while they are still off the ground. :tup:
Re-check torque after driving 50+ miles.


Mike 09-23-2009 03:08 PM

OK,
I have been running the version 1 front spacer in 10mm and the version 2 in 20mm. I took the rears off and still had vibrations with my street tires.

Got my track wheels and tires. Now running 25mm rear version 2 and no front spacer - all smooth.

Put the 10mm spacers on the front today and vibration is back. Removed them and its gone.

Time to pop the longer studs out of the front and try the 20mm version 2s on front next. Its just going to be a real bitch trying to remove the longer studs (I tried a little before but gave up.)

cptspeed 09-23-2009 05:41 PM

I hate to see someone else with this problem, but at least someone can relate now. The one thing that i noticed was that the centering ring sits back a few mm's from the face of the spacer. I also noticed when you test fit the centering ring to the wheel itself, if the ring is pulled back from the rim even a little, there is slop. I was thinking of having the spacers milled down until they ar the same exact thickness as the rings.

Mike 09-23-2009 06:06 PM

Yea, it would be nice if the wheel portion of the ring went deeper

antennahead 09-23-2009 07:09 PM

I decided on H&R spacers. The hubcentric ring is a part of the spacer, all one piece, cut that way, not a separate piece to fit. I am glad you guys shared this with the forum.

John

Mike 09-23-2009 07:20 PM

Got a link to the h&rs?

cptspeed 09-23-2009 07:49 PM

let us know how they work. When I went to the hr website, they had none listed for the 370 and when i called they said they hadnt developed one for the 370 yet.

antennahead 09-23-2009 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike (Post 210590)
Got a link to the h&rs?


H&R TRAK+® Wheel Spacers | Products || H&R Special Springs, LP

I think the 350 spacers fit, same bolt pattern.

cptspeed 09-23-2009 09:19 PM

keep us informed. the 15's up front look perfect, by the way. 20's out back.

FoesFlyDennis 11-09-2009 07:58 PM

Hey John, The H&Rs look like a better spacer design to me with the hubcentric ring integrated. Have you gotten them on yet? Are you happy with them? Where did you get them? How much $?
Sorry for all the questions; I was ready to order the Ichaba 20mm for the front and rear till I ran across this thread. Thx, Dennis

antennahead 11-09-2009 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FoesFlyDennis (Post 274000)
Hey John, The H&Rs look like a better spacer design to me with the hubcentric ring integrated. Have you gotten them on yet? Are you happy with them? Where did you get them? How much $?
Sorry for all the questions; I was ready to order the Ichaba 20mm for the front and rear till I ran across this thread. Thx, Dennis


I had them installed last week, no issues and happy with the purchase. Paul at AE performance can get them got you, here is a link to his thread on his Z:

http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...z-project.html

John

FoesFlyDennis 11-09-2009 08:14 PM

That's good news.
Thanks for the quick reply.
Dennis

antennahead 11-09-2009 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FoesFlyDennis (Post 274020)
That's good news.
Thanks for the quick reply.
Dennis

You're very welcome! Remember, I only did the rear, but the quality is high, and I prefered the "one piece" hub as a part of the machined product. I would hope there is no issue on the fronts as well.

John

vortrex 11-09-2009 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FoesFlyDennis (Post 274000)
Hey John, The H&Rs look like a better spacer design to me with the hubcentric ring integrated. Have you gotten them on yet? Are you happy with them? Where did you get them? How much $?
Sorry for all the questions; I was ready to order the Ichaba 20mm for the front and rear till I ran across this thread. Thx, Dennis

I don't get it, the ichiba are one piece too, no?

antennahead 11-09-2009 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vortrex (Post 274236)
I don't get it, the ichiba are one piece too, no?

I think they are two piece, meaning the hub centric section is a separate piece that you place inside the ring. Doesn't really matter I don't think, many here use the ichibas, I just wanted the one piece spacer, one less thing for me to lose :icon17:

ZForce 11-11-2009 10:15 PM

H&R very good over the others, you pay more but the quality is there and the hub centric ring integrated. Top notch, I had them (20mm fr & rr) on my 350Z with stock rims and went with replacing the studs.

What size did you go with in the rear and the part#?

And has anyone done the fronts yet with success (larger than 10mm)?

Any pics?

antennahead 11-11-2009 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ZForce (Post 276653)
H&R very good over the others, you pay more but the quality is there and the hub centric ring integrated. Top notch, I had them (20mm fr & rr) on my 350Z with stock rims and went with replacing the studs.

What size did you go with in the rear and the part#?

And has anyone done the fronts yet with success (larger than 10mm)?

Any pics?

15mm in the rear, part # 3065662

ZForce 11-12-2009 12:36 AM

^ Cool, thanks John. I am going to try 20 mm fr and rr. Hopefully the fronts can take em. Will probably go with the stud replacement version. Wonder if any one has tried 25mm in the rear?

keng714 11-12-2009 09:06 AM

here 20mm ichiba spacers front and rear, also im lowered on hks coilovers.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b1...v/IMG_1088.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b1...v/IMG_1089.jpg

Mike 11-12-2009 09:21 AM

My H&Rs just arrived. Its a nice day here, so I will probably install them shortly.

Bster 11-12-2009 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by keng714 (Post 276835)

Peeeerfect.

keng714 11-12-2009 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bster (Post 276919)
Peeeerfect.

not so much i wish i had at least another 10mm in the back and front. The front does rub the fender liner.

Bster 11-12-2009 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keng714 (Post 276926)
not so much i wish i had at least another 10mm in the back and front. The front does rub the fender liner.

I think it's perfect because I like it flushed and tucked. You could put some negative camber up front.

Like they say, "If it ain't rubbin', it ain't low enough"
:tup:

Mike 11-12-2009 11:21 AM

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Ichiba is on the left, H&R on the right. I'm pretty sure the H&R will solve the vibration issues, as it definitely extends the hubcentric ring farther into the wheel.

ZForce 11-12-2009 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike (Post 276846)
My H&Rs just arrived. Its a nice day here, so I will probably install them shortly.

kewl...what size(s) did you go with and are you installing them on stock sport wheels and the drop?

ZForce 11-12-2009 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keng714 (Post 276926)
not so much i wish i had at least another 10mm in the back and front. The front does rub the fender liner.

Interesting...guess that leaves the 20mm OUT for me, if it rubs. Then again suppose it depends on the drop. I will be running Eibachs .9 drop. Wonder if the 20mm will not rub with that drop, since it's on the conservative side.

Did you guys go with stud replacment version or the bolt on spacer?


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