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Originally Posted by Josh@STILLEN Honestly with a correctly built wheel, you shouldn't be running spacers.. I don't think I understand what you're saying. What makes a wheel "correctly built?" It

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Old 06-18-2010, 01:36 AM   #136 (permalink)
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Honestly with a correctly built wheel, you shouldn't be running spacers..
I don't think I understand what you're saying. What makes a wheel "correctly built?" It seems like a lot of the guys are using the stock sport wheels with spacers. I would think that the Sport Rays are built correctly. I have a touring without the sport package, so that's why I wanted new wheels to begin with.
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20mm H&R spacers F/R, lowered on H&R springs, and a good alignment got my rims to look flushed.

Plus the car handles better too!
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Guys, i've just got my new set of wheels and i'm looking to get a set of spacers for the rear (10mm).

I have been trying to research and understand how it all works, from my understanding the H&R spacers are the ones to go for.

My question is the DRS model - where you need to replace your existing studs with the longer ones.. that sounds a bit tricky? Is it hard to remove the original studs? I was told it would require special equipment etc? is this true?

If not can't I just go the DRM model? The only problem is that the DRM minimum looks like 15mm.

Only other thing i could find was the KICS spacers 10mm which seem to be bolt on as well. I am a bit cautious as they are 2 pieces (the hubcentric part is seperate). Has anyone got any feedback for these ones, or can anyone tell me whether it is a difficult task to replace the original studs with the DRS model?

Appreciate any help.

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Old 06-18-2010, 08:36 AM   #139 (permalink)
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Guys, i've just got my new set of wheels and the rears are not clearing the breaks, so i'm going to need a set of spacers for the rear (10mm).

I have been trying to research and understand how it all works, from my understanding the H&R spacers are the ones to go for.

My question is the DRS model - where you need to replace your existing studs with the longer ones.. that sounds a bit tricky? Is it hard to remove the original studs? I was told it would require special equipment etc? is this true?

If not can't I just go the DRM model? The only problem is that the DRM minimum looks like 15mm.

Only other thing i could find was the KICS spacers 10mm which seem to be bolt on as well. I am a bit cautious as they are 2 pieces (the hubcentric part is seperate). Has anyone got any feedback for these ones, or can anyone tell me whether it is a difficult task to replace the original studs with the DRS model?

Appreciate any help.

Cheers
Stud replacement is really easy. The only "tricky" bit to the rears is that you have to temporarily separate the parking brake assembly (very simple... there's a DIY on it here too). Other than that it's simply a matter of pounding out the old studs and pulling in the new (impact gun recommended!).

I am not a big fan of bolt-on spacers anyways... I don't really trust them.
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I didn't even need to separatetbe parking brake, with a little wiggling and rotating the rotor i was able to get the new studs in
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I didn't even need to separatetbe parking brake, with a little wiggling and rotating the rotor i was able to get the new studs in
Nice. I just looked at the assembly and realized how easy it was to remove the spring and adjusting pin to move the two halves of the brake shoes out of the way so I did it that way.
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20mm H&R spacers F/R, lowered on H&R springs, and a good alignment got my rims to look flushed.

Plus the car handles better too!
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What size/offset wheels do you have?
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I don't think I understand what you're saying. What makes a wheel "correctly built?" It seems like a lot of the guys are using the stock sport wheels with spacers. I would think that the Sport Rays are built correctly. I have a touring without the sport package, so that's why I wanted new wheels to begin with.
Sorry.. I probably didn't explain well enough. "Correctly" is probably a bad word to use.

It's much better to use a wheel with the offset to achieve the look that's you're looking for instead of running a spacer to acheive that.

The factory sport wheels are what they are, and guys who want a flush look add spacers (obviously they're not going to create a whole new wheel).

If you're getting wheels, ideally you would get some with the offset to acheive the level of flushness you'd like, instead of adding spacers to them. But this may only be possible if the wheel exists, or you're having custom wheels made, and can choose your offsets.
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It's much better to use a wheel with the offset to achieve the look that's you're looking for instead of running a spacer to acheive that.

If you're getting wheels, ideally you would get some with the offset to acheive the level of flushness you'd like, instead of adding spacers to them. But this may only be possible if the wheel exists, or you're having custom wheels made, and can choose your offsets.
Here is a shot of wheels with the proper offset for the desired effect of "flushness". These are Volks GT30's. Have a look at the pictures on my profile page. I had these wheels made for me in 20 inch.

Here's my info on these... Front: 20" X 9.5" wide with +35 offset
Rear: 20" X 10.5" wide with +10 offset
My tire sizes where: Front 265/30/20 and Rear 305/25/20.
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Thanks for the input in regards to replacing the studs. Nowi guess the only thing I need to find out is if H&R do 10mm drs for the 370? On the stillen site it matched a pair of 10mm drs but I'm not sure if this is right as I haven't seen anyone else stocking these for the Z? Can anyone shed some light on this? If there isn't any H&R 10mm drs, can anyone suggest amother brand?

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Thanks for the input in regards to replacing the studs. Nowi guess the only thing I need to find out is if H&R do 10mm drs for the 370? On the stillen site it matched a pair of 10mm drs but I'm not sure if this is right as I haven't seen anyone else stocking these for the Z? Can anyone shed some light on this? If there isn't any H&R 10mm drs, can anyone suggest amother brand?

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Most go with 15, 20 or 25.. but yes there are both 5 and 10mm spacers..
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Sorry.. I probably didn't explain well enough. "Correctly" is probably a bad word to use.

It's much better to use a wheel with the offset to achieve the look that's you're looking for instead of running a spacer to acheive that.

The factory sport wheels are what they are, and guys who want a flush look add spacers (obviously they're not going to create a whole new wheel).

If you're getting wheels, ideally you would get some with the offset to acheive the level of flushness you'd like, instead of adding spacers to them. But this may only be possible if the wheel exists, or you're having custom wheels made, and can choose your offsets.
Ok, I get what you're saying. Since I'm not having custom wheels made, I guess I'll have to estimate the correct spacer size I'll need for the rims I plan on getting.
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Ok, I get what you're saying. Since I'm not having custom wheels made, I guess I'll have to estimate the correct spacer size I'll need for the rims I plan on getting.
If the offset to achieve the look you want isn't available from that wheel, then yes. Exactly.
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Stud replacement is really easy. The only "tricky" bit to the rears is that you have to temporarily separate the parking brake assembly (very simple... there's a DIY on it here too). Other than that it's simply a matter of pounding out the old studs and pulling in the new (impact gun recommended!).

I am not a big fan of bolt-on spacers anyways... I don't really trust them.
I ran H&R adapters/spacers on several VW's for years. Never had a single issue. Here is my 03 VW with Porsche wheels for reference.



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I ran H&R adapters/spacers on several VW's for years. Never had a single issue. Here is my 03 VW with Porsche wheels for reference.



Bolt-on?

It's really a personal thing for me. I look at bolt-on spacers as adding five additional points of failure. On the track, I'd rather be running a DRS spacer instead of a bolt-on... so that's what I went with. But that's just me, and like I said, I have no evidence to support my belief... I just feel more comfortable with DRS.
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