WRONG APPLICATION - Nissan 370Z Wheel Locks

ZKindaGuy · 08-07-2009, 12:08 AM

WARNING: The wheel locks being sold by Nissan for the 370Z are NOT the correct wheel locks. I had these locks on my 370Z Rays and after one month of driving with them the locks began to show signs of stress fractures around the locking pattern. One wheel lock completely sheared off from the pattern to a 1/4 inch down the lock shaft itself.

I took it over to the Nissan dealer and they indicated the locks that are required are shank-style and the ones being sold by Nissan as the wheel locks for a 370Z are not shanks and they need to be......and they also pointed out the shaft tip should NOT have the beveled tip but should instead be straight shaft shanks.

In fact they showed me that these "Nissan 370Z wheel locks" don't even screw on far enough to make contact with the wheel to create locking pressure on the wheel. They stated the wheel locks are in plain words the wrong wheel locks to use on the 19" Sport Rays application.

They told me that I have been driving around for a month in essence with just 4 lug nut on and that any cornering in the past month I was doing was putting severe stress on the "Nissan 370Z wheel locks" which was what was causing the wheel locks to fracture and shear.

They indicated the correct wheel lock for the 370Z Rays is the McGard
#21153 wheel locks as these are the correct shank length and shape in that they are straight shafts.

Fortunately no damage was done to the Rays while driving for the past month with the wrong wheel locks being sold by Nissan .

Modshack · 08-07-2009, 12:13 AM

Been discussed before. Unfortunately many dealers have done this (including mine) thinking the old locks they used on 350's would be the same. I believe there was a bulletin to parts correcting the mis-information..

Wrong set on left (now in the landfill)

molamann · 08-07-2009, 12:39 AM

Broken wheel stud and lug nut.

Pushing_Tin · 08-07-2009, 01:04 AM

I bought some from one of the sponsors here. The kit is actually for a 2007 G35 sedan. Are these also incorrect? I do not have a lug nut wrench at the moment to take them off.

Pushing_Tin · 08-07-2009, 01:22 AM

The Z Store! Nissan-Datsun 240Z-260Z-280Z-280ZX-300ZX(Z31/Z32)-350Z-370Z Parts: Nissan Wheel Locks, 2009 370Z

Modshack · 08-07-2009, 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pushing_Tin

The Z Store! Nissan-Datsun 240Z-260Z-280Z-280ZX-300ZX(Z31/Z32)-350Z-370Z Parts: Nissan Wheel Locks, 2009 370Z

Those are not correct for the Ray's wheels (at least those represented in the picture).

semtex · 08-07-2009, 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZKindaGuy

WARNING: The wheel locks being sold by Nissan for the 370Z are NOT the correct wheel locks. I had these locks on my 370Z Rays and after one month of driving with them the locks began to show signs of stress fractures around the locking pattern. One wheel lock completely sheared off from the pattern to a 1/4 inch down the lock shaft itself.

I took it over to the Nissan dealer and they indicated the locks that are required are shank-style and the ones being sold by Nissan as the wheel locks for a 370Z are not shanks and they need to be......and they also pointed out the shaft tip should NOT have the beveled tip but should instead be straight shaft shanks.

In fact they showed me that these "Nissan 370Z wheel locks" don't even screw on far enough to make contact with the wheel to create locking pressure on the wheel. They stated the wheel locks are in plain words the wrong wheel locks to use on the 19" Sport Rays application.

They told me that I have been driving around for a month in essence with just 4 lug nut on and that any cornering in the past month I was doing was putting severe stress on the "Nissan 370Z wheel locks" which was what was causing the wheel locks to fracture and shear.

They indicated the correct wheel lock for the 370Z Rays is the McGard
#21153 wheel locks as these are the correct shank length and shape in that they are straight shafts.

Fortunately no damage was done to the Rays while driving for the past month with the wrong wheel locks being sold by Nissan .

This isn't quite correct. I think there's some confusion on the part of your dealer. I recommend you review this thread, where this topic has been thoroughly covered: Broken wheel stud and lug nut.

But I'll give you the Cliff Notes real quick. When the 370Z was first released, they did not have wheel locks. Dealers started just throwing on the standard wheel locks that fit all Nissans, not realizing that the Z's wheels were different. This picture here shows one of the lug nuts from a 19" Rays Sport wheel on the left, and one of the 'standard' Nissan locks that the dealers were putting on:

This was a colossal fail on the part of the dealers, and these standard locks started fracturing, as shown on the far right of the above pic.

Since then, they have finally gotten with the program and now have locks that are correct for our wheels. This is what they look like:

These are the ones you want. Notice that they're exactly the same dimensions as the stock lug nuts. So your blanket statement that "The wheel locks being sold by Nissan for the 370Z are NOT the correct wheel locks" isn't quite accurate. It depends on which locks your dealership is selling. If a dealership is selling the 'standard' Nissan locks for the 370Z, then yes, those are the wrong ones and they need to come off asap. But if they're selling the ones pictured above, those absolutely are the correct ones and there's nothing wrong with them.

The McGard 21153s I put on my car are also compatible, but understand that I put them on my car as an interim measure. In other words, I ordered them before Nissan caught up and released the correct locks. Now that the correct ones are out, there's really no reason to go with the 21153s. Btw, just as a side note, the Nissan locks are also McGards (i.e., McGard makes them). In fact, I have since swapped out the 21153s for the 'correct' locks from Nissan.

Hope that clears things up.

Lloydy · 08-07-2009, 09:28 AM

This explains a lot - a few weeks back my TPMS came on, and as I have Nitrogen in the tires, I went back to the dealer for my free top up. Turned out I had 2 nails in my rear tire. Anyway long story short, they replaced the tire (luckily I took the tire warranty option). They then told me they had split the wheel lock putting it back on and would have to replace them too - just checked and they used the correct part #

nogoodname · 08-07-2009, 09:42 AM

just make sure you have the washer & cone style lugs/locking nuts

VCuomo · 08-07-2009, 12:21 PM

These are the correct wheel locks: 370Z Wheel Locks

I have them on my Z and they work just fine.

ZKindaGuy · 08-07-2009, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by semtex

This isn't quite correct. I think there's some confusion on the part of your dealer. I recommend you review this thread, where this topic has been thoroughly covered: Broken wheel stud and lug nut.

But I'll give you the Cliff Notes real quick. When the 370Z was first released, they did not have wheel locks. Dealers started just throwing on the standard wheel locks that fit all Nissans, not realizing that the Z's wheels were different. This picture here shows one of the lug nuts from a 19" Rays Sport wheel on the left, and one of the 'standard' Nissan locks that the dealers were putting on:

This was a colossal fail on the part of the dealers, and these standard locks started fracturing, as shown on the far right of the above pic.

Since then, they have finally gotten with the program and now have locks that are correct for our wheels. This is what they look like:

These are the ones you want. Notice that they're exactly the same dimensions as the stock lug nuts. So your blanket statement that "The wheel locks being sold by Nissan for the 370Z are NOT the correct wheel locks" isn't quite accurate. It depends on which locks your dealership is selling. If a dealership is selling the 'standard' Nissan locks for the 370Z, then yes, those are the wrong ones and they need to come off asap. But if they're selling the ones pictured above, those absolutely are the correct ones and there's nothing wrong with them.

The McGard 21153s I put on my car are also compatible, but understand that I put them on my car as an interim measure. In other words, I ordered them before Nissan caught up and released the correct locks. Now that the correct ones are out, there's really no reason to go with the 21153s. Btw, just as a side note, the Nissan locks are also McGards (i.e., McGard makes them). In fact, I have since swapped out the 21153s for the 'correct' locks from Nissan.

Hope that clears things up.

I have already ordered the 21153's version based on the Nissan Technician's recommendation. Would you say the McGard #21153's will work correctly?

Modshack · 08-07-2009, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VCuomo

I have them on my Z and they work just fine.

Yeah...seems like they work fine right up til when they break. I'm not impressed with McGuard style locks at all.... Anyone out to steal your wheels can defeat these easily with the right tool..or they'll break and leave you stranded and unable to remove your wheel. Seems like too many things to go wrong with these..(but thay are cheap enough)

dad · 08-07-2009, 01:11 PM

http://www.the370z.com/images/servic.../NTB09-024.pdf

Pushing_Tin · 08-07-2009, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dad

http://www.the370z.com/images/servic.../NTB09-024.pdf

Thanks for posting that Dad! According to that bulletin the parts that I ordered are in fact the correct appilcation. Apparently the G35 had similar lug nuts as the 370.

semtex · 08-07-2009, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZKindaGuy

I have already ordered the 21153's version based on the Nissan Technician's recommendation. Would you say the McGard #21153's will work correctly?

Yes, they will work. No harm done.

08-07-2009, 12:08 AM	#1 (permalink)
ZKindaGuy Track Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 699 Drives: 370Z-AT7 Tour+Sport Rep Power: 375	WRONG APPLICATION - Nissan 370Z Wheel Locks WARNING: The wheel locks being sold by Nissan for the 370Z are NOT the correct wheel locks. I had these locks on my 370Z Rays and after one month of driving with them the locks began to show signs of stress fractures around the locking pattern. One wheel lock completely sheared off from the pattern to a 1/4 inch down the lock shaft itself. I took it over to the Nissan dealer and they indicated the locks that are required are shank-style and the ones being sold by Nissan as the wheel locks for a 370Z are not shanks and they need to be......and they also pointed out the shaft tip should NOT have the beveled tip but should instead be straight shaft shanks. In fact they showed me that these "Nissan 370Z wheel locks" don't even screw on far enough to make contact with the wheel to create locking pressure on the wheel. They stated the wheel locks are in plain words the wrong wheel locks to use on the 19" Sport Rays application. They told me that I have been driving around for a month in essence with just 4 lug nut on and that any cornering in the past month I was doing was putting severe stress on the "Nissan 370Z wheel locks" which was what was causing the wheel locks to fracture and shear. They indicated the correct wheel lock for the 370Z Rays is the McGard #21153 wheel locks as these are the correct shank length and shape in that they are straight shafts. Fortunately no damage was done to the Rays while driving for the past month with the wrong wheel locks being sold by Nissan .

08-07-2009, 12:13 AM	#2 (permalink)
Modshack A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Greenville NC Posts: 2,883 Drives: 370Z Sport Rep Power: 976	Been discussed before. Unfortunately many dealers have done this (including mine) thinking the old locks they used on 350's would be the same. I believe there was a bulletin to parts correcting the mis-information.. Wrong set on left (now in the landfill) __________________ Steal my car! (SOLD)...Now Porsche Cayman S Oil Cooler DIY: Here!

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Pushing_Tin A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Eugene, OR Posts: 2,875 Drives: E63 AMG Rep Power: 228	I bought some from one of the sponsors here. The kit is actually for a 2007 G35 sedan. Are these also incorrect? I do not have a lug nut wrench at the moment to take them off.

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Lloydy Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 150 Drives: 09 370z PG 6mt T/S Rep Power: 16	This explains a lot - a few weeks back my TPMS came on, and as I have Nitrogen in the tires, I went back to the dealer for my free top up. Turned out I had 2 nails in my rear tire. Anyway long story short, they replaced the tire (luckily I took the tire warranty option). They then told me they had split the wheel lock putting it back on and would have to replace them too - just checked and they used the correct part #

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VCuomo Track Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: SoCal Posts: 887 Drives: BMW 335i Sport Rep Power: 17	These are the correct wheel locks: 370Z Wheel Locks I have them on my Z and they work just fine.