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gurneyeagle 08-22-2013 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 2456689)
Are there any pics of gunmetal Zs with 40th color wheels?

Picture Whore to the Rescue!

Apologies again for re-posting pictures.

http://www.the370z.com/members/gurne...o-rims-004.jpg

http://www.the370z.com/members/gurne...o-rims-002.jpg

brucelidat 08-22-2013 12:42 PM

They look almost black in the first image.

Chuck33079 08-22-2013 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2456719)
Not if you have a brain. Salt eats paint and clear coat, everyone knows this. If you don't you have issues.

Not everybody lives where the roads are salted. Also, water and soap removes salt.

brucelidat 08-22-2013 12:47 PM

Aren't the factory wheels painted anyway? Doesn't seem like paint is a huge issue if it comes that way form the factory.

Chuck33079 08-22-2013 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 2456733)
Aren't the factory wheels painted anyway? Doesn't seem like paint is a huge issue if it comes that way form the factory.

Yeah, but they don't have a brain. :rolleyes:

synolimit 08-22-2013 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by gurneyeagle (Post 2456660)
:icon18:

That comment may come as a surprise to not only R&S Wheels in Houston, but most if not all car manufacturers too.

In spite of what was stated further up the thread, I painted mine. Two reasons:

Don't fool yourself, a powder coated wheel can get a stone chip; I've seen it numerous times. I don't deny that powder coating isn't a much more durable coating, but it does have some drawbacks too. I've got two nicks on my powder coated calipers, so it can happen.

As with everything else, it's all a function of the environment you drive your car in.

God the ignorance is palpable. Yeah manufactures know best! Hey 09-11's how's you oil temps doing with no oil cooler? I could name a million things they do wrong. I never said PC didn't chip, in fact I did say it chips. But no one here is going to want to break a wheel down every time a chip happens as I said, therefore dip is a great easy cheap solution. Whether you live in snow environments or not you still have sand blasting out west, rocks and gravel else where, salt water by the oceans etc. I'd never paint because it never lasts! I could also care less about a company I've never heard of who paints wheels. I bet they're real performers :tup:. Funny my enkie rpf1 (which I'm sure has RS beat every way possible) are PC'ed.

brucelidat 08-22-2013 12:58 PM

Not saying manufacturers do everything the best, just saying painted wheels can't be that bad if that's how they are OEM. I also agree that the environment you live in make a big difference. If you're not by the coast, salt isn't really much of a concern. I also never said I thought Plasti-dip was completely horrible either.

Chuck33079 08-22-2013 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2456743)
God the ignorance is palpable. Yeah manufactures know best! Hey 09-11's how's you oil temps doing with no oil cooler? I could name a million things they do wrong. I never said PC didn't chip, in fact I did say it chips. But no one here is going to want to break a wheel down every time a chip happens as I said, therefore dip is a great easy cheap solution. Whether you live in snow environments or not you still have sand blasting out west, rocks and gravel else where, salt water by the oceans etc. I'd never paint because it never lasts! I could also care less about a company I've never heard of who paints wheels. I bet they're real performers :tup:. Funny my enkie rpf1 (which I'm sure has RS beat every way possible) are PC'ed.

Yes, we're all ignorant because we don't agree with you and we don't like plastidip. That must be it.

brucelidat 08-22-2013 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by gurneyeagle (Post 2456720)
Picture Whore to the Rescue!

Apologies again for re-posting pictures.

http://www.the370z.com/members/gurne...o-rims-004.jpg

http://www.the370z.com/members/gurne...o-rims-002.jpg

Is that an exact match to the 40th wheels color? Looks darker than thought from other pictures I have seen.

kenchan 08-22-2013 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 2456727)
They look almost black in the first image.

dang, you just dont get it do you? :shakes head:



:rofl2:

mr.gurney by far has the bestest 40th to date in my book. :tup:

synolimit 08-22-2013 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 2456733)
Aren't the factory wheels painted anyway? Doesn't seem like paint is a huge issue if it comes that way form the factory.

Lol yeah real winner there :tup:. I especially loved the orange peel and over spray everywhere where the tired to fade gunmetal to silver on the OEM :icon18:

Everyone seems to have great luck too! Keep it up nissan! You make great cars that can turn fast and not shut off. Have great brakes that don't fade and send you into walls at VIR. Great cool running cars that don't need coolers and never have motor, tranny, or rear diff issues at +35k miles. I'd definitely paint cause nissan does :roflpuke2:

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...psc40bea2b.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...pse57518bf.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...ps486876e9.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...ps0ccc8274.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...ps0ccc8274.jpg

brucelidat 08-22-2013 01:05 PM

Car looks great, just trying to get the most accurate reference image I can for the color combination is all. Kenchan, you're the one who got my mind on those 4th wheels with that sale link s now I am giving it more thought.

synolimit 08-22-2013 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2456762)
Yes, we're all ignorant because we don't agree with you and we don't like plastidip. That must be it.

Has nothing to do with dip at this point. Its the lack of knowledge about paint. I've stated the truth. Keep being ignorant if you want. I'm out.

Chuck33079 08-22-2013 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2456811)
I'm out.

Thank God. Hopefully we can manage without someone here to call us brainless, stupid and ignorant.

synolimit 08-22-2013 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2456818)
Thank God. Hopefully we can manage without someone here to call us brainless, stupid and ignorant.

You brought it on yourself. :tup:

brucelidat 08-22-2013 01:13 PM

I didn't completely disagree with him. He seemed a bit quick to anger. I don't think any one process is perfect. Was just saying painted wheels wasn't horrible. Didn't say they were the best either, just a legitimate option like powdercoating and even plasti-dip depending on your situation.

Chuck33079 08-22-2013 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2456828)
You brought it on yourself. :tup:

By thinking painting wheels is OK, and preferable to plastidip? If that makes me ignorant, so be it.

kenchan 08-22-2013 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 2456799)
Car looks great, just trying to get the most accurate reference image I can for the color combination is all. Kenchan, you're the one who got my mind on those 4th wheels with that sale link s now I am giving it more thought.

:tup: i think your car will look very nice with the 40th wheels.

as mr.gurney mentioned, painting your doorhandles to match will give it that extra final touch. :tup:

brucelidat 08-22-2013 01:53 PM

Might need to see if I can borrow my mom's camry or my sister's accord for a day now to make it happen, haha.

kenchan 08-22-2013 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 2456961)
Might need to see if I can borrow my mom's camry or my sister's accord for a day now to make it happen, haha.

:tup: sounds like a plan. :D

gurneyeagle 08-22-2013 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2456729)
Not everybody lives where the roads are salted. Also, water and soap removes salt.

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Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 2456733)
Aren't the factory wheels painted anyway? Doesn't seem like paint is a huge issue if it comes that way form the factory.

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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2456743)
God the ignorance is palpable. Yeah manufactures know best! Hey 09-11's how's you oil temps doing with no oil cooler? I could name a million things they do wrong. I never said PC didn't chip, in fact I did say it chips. But no one here is going to want to break a wheel down every time a chip happens as I said, therefore dip is a great easy cheap solution. Whether you live in snow environments or not you still have sand blasting out west, rocks and gravel else where, salt water by the oceans etc. I'd never paint because it never lasts! I could also care less about a company I've never heard of who paints wheels. I bet they're real performers :tup:. Funny my enkie rpf1 (which I'm sure has RS beat every way possible) are PC'ed.

Besides ignorance, your lack of humility is just as palpable.

I never questioned the logic of powder coating, just gave my reasons for having my wheels painted. I don't have to break down a wheel to fix a chip; Dr. Colorchip works just fine with the wheel on the car.

I've spent a lot of time on the Atlantic coastline in Florida and never had a problem with salt erosion on the paint. My cars are kept washed and waxed.

Instead of throwing a bunch of absolutes out there as fact, why not engage the rest of us in conversation? Ignorant arrogance is not a virtue.

gurneyeagle 08-22-2013 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 2456727)
They look almost black in the first image.

The pictures were taken on a very dark, cloudy day. This is the only one I've got at work right now that was taken in direct sun light.

Think of Gun Metallic with a hint of purple. It compliments the car color pretty well.

gurneyeagle 08-22-2013 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2456797)
Lol yeah real winner there :tup:. I especially loved the orange peel and over spray everywhere where the tired to fade gunmetal to silver on the OEM :icon18:

Everyone seems to have great luck too! Keep it up nissan! You make great cars that can turn fast and not shut off. Have great brakes that don't fade and send you into walls at VIR. Great cool running cars that don't need coolers and never have motor, tranny, or rear diff issues at +35k miles. I'd definitely paint cause nissan does :roflpuke2:

So why do you own one AND apparently spend money on mods? You are contradicting yourself here. :icon14:

kenchan 08-22-2013 03:31 PM

painted wheels work fine for me. :)

factory wheels, aftermarket wheels.


only once did i have issues with BBS wheels made at that ASA korea plant. :shakes head: bubbles in the paint. actually i had another winter wheel set i had for my dd made at the same plant with clearcoat issues...

Pintsize725 08-22-2013 03:42 PM

Here you go Gurney:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y29...psc0e116de.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y29...psec5564b2.jpg

brucelidat 08-22-2013 05:46 PM

the red nismO and the red calipers are very nice accents, looking good, Eagle

synolimit 08-22-2013 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by gurneyeagle (Post 2457120)
So why do you own one AND apparently spend money on mods? You are contradicting yourself here. :icon14:

Bought before I knew the real story. Didn't know a plus 30k car couldn't turn corners when it was labeled as a sports car. And now since all our cars are worthless because of the $3600 price drop, looks like I'm stuck with it. So rpf1's are installed, clear bra will be applied, better oil cooler, better LSD, fuel pump system etc. I'm not going to be with a car I'm forced to, to have it break down, peel, over heat and die.

Waiz 08-23-2013 02:52 PM

I don't support anything plasti-dip

These are my wheels that I had painted 5 years ago, still look new due to the care that I take when I wash them

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-6f-J9U79fI...0/IMG_3572.JPG

Benfits of painting over powdercoat is really in the finish, but I have been told powdercoat is more durable.

Personally I prefer paint..

Waiz 08-23-2013 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2456797)
Lol yeah real winner there :tup:. I especially loved the orange peel and over spray everywhere where the tired to fade gunmetal to silver on the OEM :icon18:

Everyone seems to have great luck too! Keep it up nissan! You make great cars that can turn fast and not shut off. Have great brakes that don't fade and send you into walls at VIR. Great cool running cars that don't need coolers and never have motor, tranny, or rear diff issues at +35k miles. I'd definitely paint cause nissan does :roflpuke2:

Can't blame Nissan entirely for your that, it's their supplier.

What you're experiencing has happened to alot of people regardless of wheel manufacturer, normally it's due to someone using improper wheel cleaner or excessive tire dressing so the clear coat is stripped

You could sand them down and reclear them yourself and this won't happen again

brucelidat 08-23-2013 04:48 PM

Realized that 40th wheels would be more of a lateral move. Will probably look for some after market ones that I like. Found these today and think they're pretty nice. It also comes in a machined gunmetal finish.

http://avantgardewheels.com/customer...-frontside.jpg

http://avantgardewheels.com/customer...z-rearside.jpg

kenchan 08-23-2013 04:52 PM

check the weights on them. i thought i read they were boat anchors.

kenchan 08-23-2013 04:54 PM

too bad the real SA60M's dont come in our widths and offsets.

brucelidat 08-23-2013 04:55 PM

24lbs front, 25lbs rear is what hey emailed me for the weights for their 19" wheels. That's only 1-2lb more than stock rays so not bad. These aren't forged, though, but I don't really track much and if I do, I don't think it's really hard enough (I suck, it's just for fun, nto chasing times) for that to really matter.

kenchan 08-23-2013 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 2458795)
24lbs front, 25lbs rear is what hey emailed me for the weights for their 19" wheels. That's only 1-2lb more than stock rays so not bad. These aren't forged, though, but I don't really track much and if I do, I don't think it's really hard enough (I suck, it's just for fun, nto chasing times) for that to really matter.

meh, those are 8.5" and 9.5" widths... less metal yet weighs more. :ugh:

too narrow imo for Z's. okay for maybe G37C or sedans.

M368 - Avant Garde Wheels

seriously, stick with Beemaz's 40th wheels.

brucelidat 08-23-2013 09:42 PM

They would actually be either 9.5 square or 8.5 front, 10 rear. But my friend has talked me out of them since they are low pressure cats so not as strong. I will probably save up and wait to see if this is just an impulse thing and if not, maybe get the Rays Gramslite 57xtreme. Or I might put my money into headers if z1 ever gets the HR flange on and we het some good reviews/dynos.

kenchan 08-23-2013 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 2459094)
They would actually be either 9.5 square or 8.5 front, 10 rear. But my friend has talked me out of them since they are low pressure cats so not as strong. I will probably save up and wait to see if this is just an impulse thing and if not, maybe get the Rays Gramslite 57xtreme. Or I might put my money into headers if z1 ever gets the HR flange on and we het some good reviews/dynos.

the 8.5 front 10 rear are 20", i think. not sure, their homepage sucks. :ugh2: not enough description on the wheels.

low pressure cast is fine for street, just heavy. pretty sure vossens are the same way. they might look pretty, but just boat anchors.

in that sense, you're much better off getting wheels made in japan like the gramlites you mentioned, nismo wheels, your stock sport wheels, weds, volks, advans, etc. get one piece wheels if you want light weight. :) i can't see myself ever wanting to put 19's weighing more than 23-24lbs on my Z unless i had turbo and much higher capacity bbk's.

brucelidat 08-23-2013 09:56 PM

Yeah, in terms for looks, the gramlites I mentioned are the one is like most unless some Nismos or some other good looking ones pop up on the forum marketplace for a good deal.

brucelidat 08-23-2013 10:39 PM

thanks for the brands to check out ken, the wedsport sa-55m is pretty nice too.


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