Square OEM Nismo wheels

Xplicit97 · 08-13-2013, 03:23 PM

Just curious on what peoples thoughts would be on purchasing 2 rear Nismo wheels to throw on the front for a 19X10.5 square setup. Any reccomendations? This is just a thought for now, trying to achieve the most concave look that I can. I'm dropped on Ark GTS springs, and I really don't want to run much more than stock Nismo camber settings. I know the offsets are pretty high, so I'm thinking it should work.

Zbrah · 08-13-2013, 04:10 PM

The only person I've seen that ran 10.5'' all around is NOFATCHX or something like that, I don't remember if he has 20's or 19's, but he had to step up his camber settings, and a slight fenders pull in order to fit 255 tires. You may want to look up his set up for more details.

cooltoy · 08-13-2013, 04:23 PM

Not sure if you saw this.

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Let me borrow from Kalmairn at 6MT.net:

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Generally, larger rear tires are used on RWD cars that have significant power output. It's used to balance the power to the dynamics of the suspension/frame.

To a limited extent it improves the braking performance in the rear of the car. As with all vehicles, the majority of braking is from the front but the added grip in the rear will help.

Speaking for the G35...
The larger rear tires allows better application of power and keeps the rear end behind the front end when accelerating in a corner. The G35 Coupe was designed to have a staggered tire layout, changing it to be the same all-around will have a profound impact on the handling characteristics of the car.

If you upsize the front to match the rears you'll find the car to be less responsive up to the limit; at the limit the car will likely let go much quicker than it would in stock form.

If you downsize the rear to match the front you'll find acceleration traction reduced, the car will rotate easier and at lower suspension loads.

As with any performance RWD car, it's best to maintain the stagger.

Kal.

cooltoy · 08-13-2013, 04:31 PM

And another.

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Just be aware that the rear end will be a bit freer with the added front grip.

cooltoy · 08-13-2013, 04:47 PM

And:

Rear Sport Rims on Front - Will it work?

cv129 · 08-13-2013, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Zbrah

The only person I've seen that ran 10.5'' all around is NOFATCHX or something like that, I don't remember if he has 20's or 19's, but he had to step up his camber settings, and a slight fenders pull in order to fit 255 tires. You may want to look up his set up for more details.

255 on 10.5in rims ftw.......

DEpointfive0 · 08-13-2013, 08:55 PM

There has to be ONE member with Nismo rears on the front.
Ismaelz sold a set of rears to someone

gomer_110 · 08-13-2013, 09:54 PM

I know all this is about the Nismo 10.5 rear wheels but fwiw I run 18x10 +30 up front with 295/40-18 tires for AutoX.

All this "keep the stagger" crap is fine if you like understeer. I went with a square setup for autox and can say that the car is much more neutral and balanced with the square setup.

clintfocus · 08-13-2013, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by cooltoy

Not sure if you saw this.

i have to say i disagree with this as a blanket statement.

Front engine/RWD cars coming stagger from the factory is usually a case of making the car safer at the limit by making them understeer biased.

as long as the suspension is setup to run a square tire setup, the car can not only be progressive in break away characteristics, but also faster then the understeer bias stagger setup. NA 370s are not big in torque, so anything larger then a 285 in the rear is over kill in my opinion, and has trouble getting up to proper operating temp. I run 285/35/18 square, and the thermal tire behavior is much better then with the stagger setups ive run in the past.

Of course, big power additions from F/I justify a large rear tire stagger, but in NA trim, the 370 i feel does very well sqaure (275-285 all around)

cooltoy · 08-14-2013, 12:07 AM

Set nismo oem wheels and tires

takjak2 · 08-14-2013, 04:35 PM

I've done it by accident, the rears will fit on the front. Didn't go anywhere or check the fitment really but the offset wasn't bad.

The reason I keep the stagger is to fit the maximum tire possible. If you can fit 285 in front and easily 305 in back why would you put a 285 in the rear? Then tune balance in suspension. (Although if we get STU it'll be 285 all around, still maximizing rubber).

Xplicit97 · 08-14-2013, 05:03 PM

I will more than likely run 265 in front and either 295 or 305 in the rear

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bacalhau1669 · 08-14-2013, 05:39 PM

I ran a square setup in my 350z and loved it. I will more then likely go with an 18 x 10 square setup on my 370z eventually.

Hotrodz · 08-15-2013, 12:04 AM

I have 305 rear and 265 fronts. IMHO the car is much more planted and handles much better than the OEM setup.

Xplicit97 · 08-15-2013, 04:37 AM

Im hoping a 265 won't be that stretched on a 10.5

08-13-2013, 03:23 PM	#1 (permalink)
Xplicit97 Track Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Bremerton, WA Age: 45 Posts: 875 Drives: 2011 Nismo 370Z Rep Power: 300	Square OEM Nismo wheels Just curious on what peoples thoughts would be on purchasing 2 rear Nismo wheels to throw on the front for a 19X10.5 square setup. Any reccomendations? This is just a thought for now, trying to achieve the most concave look that I can. I'm dropped on Ark GTS springs, and I really don't want to run much more than stock Nismo camber settings. I know the offsets are pretty high, so I'm thinking it should work. __________________ [B]2011 Brilliant Silver Nismo 370Z # 0305, 15 Nismo wide body conversion, Motordyne E370/Art pipes, Stillen G3, Airlift suspension,20X10 /20X12 Avant Garde F111 forged wheels

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DEpointfive0 Premium Member Bitches Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,824 Drives: a lot Rep Power: 17151	There has to be ONE member with Nismo rears on the front. Ismaelz sold a set of rears to someone __________________ Do YOU want to know what/where I got my username from? ( Click to show/hide ) NSFW due to language:

08-13-2013, 09:54 PM	#8 (permalink)
gomer_110 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Perrysburg, OH Posts: 17,992 Drives: '11 Nismo #528 GM Rep Power: 36941	I know all this is about the Nismo 10.5 rear wheels but fwiw I run 18x10 +30 up front with 295/40-18 tires for AutoX. All this "keep the stagger" crap is fine if you like understeer. I went with a square setup for autox and can say that the car is much more neutral and balanced with the square setup. Mike and wrxrcr like this. __________________ '11 370Z Nismo #528 Fast Intentions \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| Uprev \| CSF \| Zspeed \| Z1 Motorsports \| AST \| Swift \| SPC \| SPL \| Whiteline \| Hotchkis \| Bride \| Schroth \| Robispec \| Cusco \| Nismo \| Volk \| Forgestar \| Hoosier \| RJM '17 Titan Bone Stock

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takjak2 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Sterling, VA Posts: 1,922 Drives: Legit Racecar 370Z Rep Power: 142	I've done it by accident, the rears will fit on the front. Didn't go anywhere or check the fitment really but the offset wasn't bad. The reason I keep the stagger is to fit the maximum tire possible. If you can fit 285 in front and easily 305 in back why would you put a 285 in the rear? Then tune balance in suspension. (Although if we get STU it'll be 285 all around, still maximizing rubber). __________________ Mods \| Stuff \| Things \| Seat Time \| Nismo facebook.com/TeamSparrowSpeed

08-14-2013, 05:03 PM	#12 (permalink)
Xplicit97 Track Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Bremerton, WA Age: 45 Posts: 875 Drives: 2011 Nismo 370Z Rep Power: 300	I will more than likely run 265 in front and either 295 or 305 in the rear Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2 __________________ [B]2011 Brilliant Silver Nismo 370Z # 0305, 15 Nismo wide body conversion, Motordyne E370/Art pipes, Stillen G3, Airlift suspension,20X10 /20X12 Avant Garde F111 forged wheels

08-13-2013, 04:10 PM	#2 (permalink)
Zbrah A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2013 Location: The370Z.com Posts: 4,956 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 5452	The only person I've seen that ran 10.5'' all around is NOFATCHX or something like that, I don't remember if he has 20's or 19's, but he had to step up his camber settings, and a slight fenders pull in order to fit 255 tires. You may want to look up his set up for more details.

08-13-2013, 04:47 PM	#5 (permalink)
cooltoy Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Calgary Posts: 13,973 Drives: 14 PW 370Z S/T MT Rep Power: 243722	And: Rear Sport Rims on Front - Will it work?

08-14-2013, 12:07 AM	#10 (permalink)
cooltoy Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Calgary Posts: 13,973 Drives: 14 PW 370Z S/T MT Rep Power: 243722	Set nismo oem wheels and tires

08-14-2013, 05:39 PM	#13 (permalink)
bacalhau1669 Base Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: palm coast Posts: 86 Drives: 2013 Base Sport Rep Power: 12	I ran a square setup in my 350z and loved it. I will more then likely go with an 18 x 10 square setup on my 370z eventually.

08-15-2013, 12:04 AM	#14 (permalink)
Hotrodz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684385	I have 305 rear and 265 fronts. IMHO the car is much more planted and handles much better than the OEM setup. __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

08-15-2013, 04:37 AM	#15 (permalink)
Xplicit97 Track Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Bremerton, WA Age: 45 Posts: 875 Drives: 2011 Nismo 370Z Rep Power: 300	Im hoping a 265 won't be that stretched on a 10.5 __________________ [B]2011 Brilliant Silver Nismo 370Z # 0305, 15 Nismo wide body conversion, Motordyne E370/Art pipes, Stillen G3, Airlift suspension,20X10 /20X12 Avant Garde F111 forged wheels

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