Enkei Raijin or has anyone heard of Verde?

[Vichtz]

Wheels and brakes are in my imminent future. I was looking at the Einkei Raijin on Tire Rack and was wondering what/if I would have to run spacers. A couple post down there is some one asking about Enkei and I know they are reputable and have a fair price. But at the bottom of the Tire Rack page there are "new" wheels called Verde Paralax. suckers are 700 for a full 19" staggered set up. That has got to be too good to be true. Anyone have any experience with them? I'm leaning toward the Raijin as it is so spacer help would be great, but I am entertaining the Paralx's cause I would have money left over to powder coat them...

[chrischhorn]

No named wheels that are probably twice the weight of enkeis? No thanks.

[raymondo510]

They don't look too bad for 700 bucks. Kind of like Vossen CV-5, but comparing these to the Enkeis Chrischhorn is probably right about the weight. I've bought wheels from Americas tires before on an older car I had but I honestly I wouldn't put them on my Z

[Vichtz]

yea like I said I am feelin the Raijin any way, but 700 bucks is kind of hard to pass up.
These are the specs on the Raijins:
Front size: 18x8.5 Offset: 38mm Backspacing: 6.25
Rear Size: 18x9.5 Offset: 15mm Backspacing: 5.78

Are these offsets ok or will there need to be extreme spacer usage? I want flush and dont mind using spacers, but flush is the key

Heres a link to the Raijin also
http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/Wheel...All&sort=Brand

[raymondo510]

Originally Posted by Vichtz

yea like I said I am feelin the Raijin any way, but 700 bucks is kind of hard to pass up.
These are the specs on the Raijins:
Front size: 18x8.5 Offset: 38mm Backspacing: 6.25
Rear Size: 18x9.5 Offset: 15mm Backspacing: 5.78

Are these offsets ok or will there need to be extreme spacer usage? I want flush and dont mind using spacers, but flush is the key

Heres a link to the Raijin also
Enkei Tuning Raijin Black Painted

Yea the Raijin look a lot better IMO and will save you weight. Im not too sure as to how the offsets would look, but I would probably go with a little lower offset in the front. Are you lowered?

[chrischhorn]

Originally Posted by Vichtz

yea like I said I am feelin the Raijin any way, but 700 bucks is kind of hard to pass up.
These are the specs on the Raijins:
Front size: 18x8.5 Offset: 38mm Backspacing: 6.25
Rear Size: 18x9.5 Offset: 15mm Backspacing: 5.78

Are these offsets ok or will there need to be extreme spacer usage? I want flush and dont mind using spacers, but flush is the key

Heres a link to the Raijin also
Enkei Tuning Raijin Black Painted

You are going to need a 20mm spacer in front and a 15mm spacer in the back give or take depending on your camber settings and ride height.

[Vichtz]

Originally Posted by chrischhorn

You are going to need a 20mm spacer in front and a 15mm spacer in the back give or take depending on your camber settings and ride height.

So this won't work with
Front size: 18x8.5 Offset: 38mm Backspacing: 6.25
Rear Size: 18x9.5 Offset: 15mm Backspacing: 5.78
Waizzz? Im not doubting Chrischhorn here but I'm welcoming all opinions

I'd like to stay 18 for the price...

[chrischhorn]

Originally Posted by Vichtz

So this won't work with
Front size: 18x8.5 Offset: 38mm Backspacing: 6.25
Rear Size: 18x9.5 Offset: 15mm Backspacing: 5.78
Waizzz? Im not doubting Chrischhorn here but I'm welcoming all opinions

I'd like to stay 18 for the price...

I'm running 255/40/18 tire on 18X9.5 +35 with a 10mm spacer up front and a 275/40/18 tire on 18X10.5 +12 with a 5mm spacer in the rear and I still rub the fender under full compression on front. Rears are perfect. You could run the 18X9.5+15 with a shorter tire but if you keep OEM diameters, you will rub the fender. You can always do a 18x9.5 +15 square set up and do the same size tires all around with a spacer only in the rear if you're willing to take the risk of rubbing the front fender.

If you are wanting to stay with staggered wheels, do 18X8.5 +35 with a 15mm spacer and 18x9.5+15 with a 10mm spacer.


Just an fyi as you seem to be a little confused about spacers. If you have a positive offset wheel, Ex +35 offset, and add a 10mm spacer. It makes it a +25 offset. It does not actually add to the offset. It subtracts it.

[Vichtz]

Originally Posted by chrischhorn

Just an fyi as you seem to be a little confused about spacers. If you have a positive offset wheel, Ex +35 offset, and add a 10mm spacer. It makes it a +25 offset. It does not actually add to the offset. It subtracts it.

Thanks for clearing that up
Yea I dont want to be rubbing too much of course

Are there any negatives to running a large spacer? I don't see why that would be an issue Waizzz? Like you say worst case scenario I'll just sell them haha

[Waiz]

Originally Posted by Vichtz

So this won't work with
Front size: 18x8.5 Offset: 38mm Backspacing: 6.25
Rear Size: 18x9.5 Offset: 15mm Backspacing: 5.78
Waizzz? Im not doubting Chrischhorn here but I'm welcoming all opinions

I'd like to stay 18 for the price...

100% will work, but will need a pretty big spacer

Worst case you can sell them

[Big J]

I've been eyeballing the Raijin's lately myself. You'll need a spacer for flush fitment but I think it's possible to make them work.

[Vichtz]

Ok thats fine. 20 and 15 is no problem . I dont have a drop and though I want one, the roads around here would literally tear my car apart I bottom out enough as it is...

[chrischhorn]

Originally Posted by Vichtz

Ok thats fine. 20 and 15 is no problem . I dont have a drop and though I want one, the roads around here would literally tear my car apart I bottom out enough as it is...

Heh, yeah. I use to go hang out at College Station all the time since I graduated in Texas.(Use to live in Dallas, now in Hawaii. Been here for 7 months) Roads are the kindest there but believe it or not, Hawaii is much worse lol.

[Mikes350z]

Never skimp on wheels just because they are cheap. The only thing about your car that touches the ground are the wheels and tires. Cheap wheels can be heavy and flimsy. Although forged is the way to go I know it can be expensive.

my .02c is to save and get something forged that is lightweight and strong. There are a lot of cracked wheels and accident pictures around.

Also PC crappy wheels make them even more vulnerable to crack when hitting potholes and bumps.

[Vichtz]

meh, for every 1 failed wheel story there are 500 success stories. Enkei is reputable and acceptably priced, and I'm not about to drop 2k for wheels and then another 1200 on tires. Not happening.

Also here is a more expansive sizing chart. I add the spacer mm to the offset right? So i want 58 in the front and 30 in the back?

http://www.enkei.com/size_chart/RAIJIN.pdf