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jayl 03-03-2013 10:32 PM

Help with tires.
 
Hi,

I need to get new rear tires.. Any suggestions? I use the Z as my DD I do not drive it in the snow the winters do get cold.. and I do drive the Z in the rain..

No track at all,

My priorities for the tires is:
1. Safe
2. Life of tire
3. Not super $$

Here are the 5 that I am looking at.. I know its a mix of all season summer, i am thinking I should (?) get all season since I do drive the car when the temps' are under 40...

- Michelin-Pilot® Sport A/S Plus ( http://tires2.costco.com/product.asp...f-b2238738fc52 )

- Bridgestone-Potenza RE050A ( http://tires2.costco.com/product.asp...f-b2238738fc52 )

- BFGoodrich-g-Force™ Super Sport A/S ( http://tires2.costco.com/product.asp...f-b2238738fc52 )

- BFGoodrich-g-Force T/A™ KDW ( http://tires2.costco.com/product.asp...f-b2238738fc52 )

- Bridgestone-Potenza RE970AS Pole Position (http://tires2.costco.com/product.asp...f-b2238738fc52)


Please help I really need to buy a pair for the rear ASAP..

Thanks,

drivin blind 03-05-2013 02:08 PM

Why not look at Fuzion UHP's.

bmarcinczyk14 03-05-2013 02:16 PM

I hear nothing but great things about the pilot super sports, should check them out. If your willing to sacrifice a little bit of life for extra performance, the re-11's are the way to go, that's what I'm going with next season

DEpointfive0 03-05-2013 02:36 PM

I have the A/S+ on my ISF, GREAT tires, the grip was more than expected for an all season. And they have a 45k mile warranty (gets cut in half for the rears, so 22.5k) so if you DO get them from Costco, you can burn them up in 11k miles and get a new set for half off! Lol

jayl 03-05-2013 02:37 PM

i looked at getting the ContinentalExtremeContact DWS (from tirerack) but seems i cant get road hazard coverage on them from atleast the installer I called..

I really want to get road hazard coverage..

b1adesofcha0s 03-05-2013 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayl (Post 2197680)
i looked at getting the ContinentalExtremeContact DWS (from tirerack) but seems i cant get road hazard coverage on them from atleast the installer I called..

I really want to get road hazard coverage..

Those are the ones I had on my Z, they are great for a year round tire. I've done cruises, drag strip runs, and even a track session on them and they were pretty good (for an all season tire). I've also driven them in snow without any issues. :tiphat:

jayl 03-05-2013 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2197678)
I have the A/S+ on my ISF, GREAT tires, the grip was more than expected for an all season. And they have a 45k mile warranty (gets cut in half for the rears, so 22.5k) so if you DO get them from Costco, you can burn them up in 11k miles and get a new set for half off! Lol

LOL, I am glad atleast someone's use the A/S+ even if its not on the Z

jayl 03-05-2013 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 2197685)
Those are the ones I had on my Z, they are great for a year round tire. I've done cruises, drag strip runs, and even a track session on them and they were pretty good (for an all season tire). I've also driven them in snow without any issues. :tiphat:

Thanks Shahid, that what Ron told me.. were you able to get any type of road hazard coverage on these when you bought them from tirerack?

I dont drive the Z in snow or track it..

b1adesofcha0s 03-05-2013 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayl (Post 2197695)
Thanks Shahid, that what Ron told me.. were you able to get any type of road hazard coverage on these when you bought them from tirerack?

I dont drive the Z in snow or track it..

Well I didn't want to get road hazard coverage so I never asked.

DEpointfive0 03-05-2013 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayl (Post 2197687)
LOL, I am glad atleast someone's use the A/S+ even if its not on the Z

I'm putting them on the Z as soon as these tires are gone
Costco and the warranty on THOSE tires... I can't pass that up
Road hazard a nitrogen and a load of other things for the $15 install. Count me in

Did I mention customer service??? It's amazing

jayl 03-05-2013 02:49 PM

it looks like road hazard can be purchased from tirerack..

chrischhorn 03-05-2013 02:52 PM

I am running a set of RE970's on front of my car right now. No complaints for an all season. I had them on my rear before I bought new wheels and was very surprised with traction. They gave better grip the then OEM Advans by a fairly large margin. I was able to launch the car more easily and consistently. Hell, I pulled a 1.9 60ft time at the track on them on the base 18's with no LSD. I'm still using them on my fronts right now and I autocross on them and I'm surprised with how they handle. Plus Costco is doing $70 a set of bridgestones right now so they are going to be best bang for the buck IMO. 40k warranty for fronts and 20k for the rears.


edit: my only dislike about the A/s+ is they tend to wear in weird ways. They like to chip on the shoulders under aggressive driving but the ride quality is softer. Road noise is one of the best you can get.

jayl 03-05-2013 03:16 PM

thats awesome to know.. for my driving habits.. it seems the A/S+ might not be an issue? as I hardly do any aggressive driving..

I am no planning on getting 4 tires rite now so I dont think i would get the 70 off...

how many miles do you have on the RE970's?

Thanks,

DEpointfive0 03-05-2013 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayl (Post 2197730)
thats awesome to know.. for my driving habits.. it seems the A/S+ might not be an issue? as I hardly do any aggressive driving..

I am no planning on getting 4 tires rite now so I dont think i would get the 70 off...

how many miles do you have on the RE970's?

Thanks,

Btw, that weird tread wear pattern is cured by either aggressive driving and/or the warranty, lol!
So mind at ease!

chrischhorn 03-05-2013 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayl (Post 2197730)
thats awesome to know.. for my driving habits.. it seems the A/S+ might not be an issue? as I hardly do any aggressive driving..

I am no planning on getting 4 tires rite now so I dont think i would get the 70 off...

how many miles do you have on the RE970's?

Thanks,


Right now, about 11k. Andrew, the irregular wear isn't covered by the warranty since its basically expected. its dependent on the warehouse too but 95% won't cover it.

jayl 03-06-2013 09:14 PM

I think now its down to the 3 below:

- Pilot® MXM4® ($288.99 Pilot MXM4 | Michelin Tires )
Speed Rating:
V
Load Index:
96

- Primacy™ MXV4® ( $244.99 Primacy MXV4 | Michelin Tires )
Speed Rating:
V
Load Index:
96

- Pilot® Sport A/S Plus ($229.99 Pilot Sport A/S Plus | Michelin Tires )
Speed Rating:
Y
Load Index:
96


any suggestions from these 3? for the rear pair.. I am liking the MXV4 from these..

since the PSS seem to be a favorite heres a comparison
http://www.michelinman.com/tire-sele...t/tire-details
Speed Rating:
(Y)
Load Index:
100

chrischhorn 03-07-2013 03:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayl (Post 2200321)
I think now its down to the 3 below:

- Pilot® MXM4® ($288.99 Pilot MXM4 | Michelin Tires )
Speed Rating:
V
Load Index:
96

- Primacy™ MXV4® ( $244.99 Primacy MXV4 | Michelin Tires )
Speed Rating:
V
Load Index:
96

- Pilot® Sport A/S Plus ($229.99 Pilot Sport A/S Plus | Michelin Tires )
Speed Rating:
Y
Load Index:
96


any suggestions from these 3? for the rear pair.. I am liking the MXV4 from these..

since the PSS seem to be a favorite heres a comparison
Pilot Super Sport | Michelin Tires
Speed Rating:
(Y)
Load Index:
100


I personally would not drop your speed rating from a W to a V. Lower speed rating in short means softer sidewalls. you're going to lose some of the sporty feel though you do have the option to do so. I wouldn't recommend the MXV4's since they are a touring passenger tire. The Primacy MXM4's are a performance luxury tire if anything.

jayl 03-07-2013 09:24 AM

thanks, that makes sense I will go with the Pilot sport A/S...

i hope that by not going with PSS i am not making a "bad" choice..

b1adesofcha0s 03-07-2013 09:34 AM

Looks like the Pilot Sport A/S 3 (I'm assuming this is new version of the A/S plus) are coming out this summer. Might be worth the wait if you can last till summer.

jayl 03-07-2013 09:40 AM

unfortunately I dont have the heart to see the Z everyday in the garage and not drive it..

bmarcinczyk14 03-07-2013 09:45 AM

Get the pilot super sports, and the RE-11's if your daring. End of story!

jayl 03-07-2013 10:09 AM

if only it was that easy for me.

bmarcinczyk14 03-07-2013 10:28 AM

It is. JUST DO IT! And you won't ever look back, trust me.

b1adesofcha0s 03-07-2013 10:35 AM

Well the PSS/RE-11 probably won't do too well driving in the winter. I've driven on my PSS in temps as low as like 20 with no issues, but I haven't driven them on snow. I don't think they'd do too well though....

bmarcinczyk14 03-07-2013 10:48 AM

He said he won't be driving in snow, so I think he'll be fine.

b1adesofcha0s 03-07-2013 10:49 AM

Then definitely PSS. They are an amazing tire :tup:

bmarcinczyk14 03-07-2013 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 2201014)
Then definitely PSS. They are an amazing tire :tup:

I agree, the PSS should be better in the cold than the RE-11's since they aren't as aggressive of a summer tires.

tiger123 03-07-2013 11:42 AM

:iagree:

The PSS is definitely the way to go, especially considering your requirements. They will take care of everything you need and then some.

Not to mention the best warranty in the business for high performance tire.

Get them..........now:tup:

jayl 03-07-2013 11:59 AM

so as long as I dont drive in snow.. I would be ok with summer tires?? I know the factory were summer tires.. but that wasnt by choice.. I was under the impression that driving below 40 F would be better with A/S tires?

Also the PSS vs PS A/S is a 30k mile vs 45k mile tire so I would get say 15k or 22.5 k right ?

bmarcinczyk14 03-07-2013 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayl (Post 2201191)
so as long as I dont drive in snow.. I would be ok with summer tires?? I know the factory were summer tires.. but that wasnt by choice.. I was under the impression that driving below 40 F would be better with A/S tires?

Also the PSS vs PS A/S is a 30k mile vs 45k mile tire so I would get say 15k or 22.5 k right ?

I'm not going to lie, summer tires do not like temps. below 40 degrees. They are still perfectly safe imo, just be prepared to spin much more than usual when temps dip below 50 degrees. As far as normal driving you will still have more than enough grip to still be considered safe.

jayl 03-07-2013 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmarcinczyk14 (Post 2201227)
I'm not going to lie, summer tires do not like temps. below 40 degrees.

see not that easy!

bmarcinczyk14 03-07-2013 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayl (Post 2201335)
see not that easy!

It would be for me because I'd choose the RE-11's regardless of the lower cold weather performance, as long as the car will NEVER see snow. But that's because I really do not want to give up overall grip during my spirited summer driving. Also, I don't plan on ever tracking my car either. Or use it during the winter, but even if I did I'd still opt for the RE-11's.

chrischhorn 03-07-2013 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayl (Post 2201335)
see not that easy!


Easy for me in Hawaii..... lol but I think the OP would like the A/S+ He's already stated he doesn't drive spiritedly and is looking for a long lasted tire that's going to be smooth and good in all weather. We all know why WE personally would choose the SS or the RE-11's but from the sounds of it, the A/s+ would be more suitable for him. Dammit, I still sound like a tire salesman even when I'm not at work lol. Not to mention, the A/S+ is probably cheaper.

bmarcinczyk14 03-07-2013 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrischhorn (Post 2201390)
Easy for me in Hawaii..... lol but I think the OP would like the A/S+ He's already stated he doesn't drive spiritedly and is looking for a long lasted tire that's going to be smooth and good in all weather. We all know why WE personally would choose the SS or the RE-11's but from the sounds of it, the A/s+ would be more suitable for him. Dammit, I still sound like a tire salesman even when I'm not at work lol. Not to mention, the A/S+ is probably cheaper.

His signature states otherwise. That's some pretty erratic driving if I do say so myself ;)

jayl 03-07-2013 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by chrischhorn (Post 2201390)
Easy for me in Hawaii..... lol but I think the OP would like the A/S+ He's already stated he doesn't drive spiritedly and is looking for a long lasted tire that's going to be smooth and good in all weather. We all know why WE personally would choose the SS or the RE-11's but from the sounds of it, the A/s+ would be more suitable for him. Dammit, I still sound like a tire salesman even when I'm not at work lol. Not to mention, the A/S+ is probably cheaper.

its a 4.00 difference between the tires so the cost is not an issue..

just want to make the best choice for my needs ..

To give an idea of how i drive heres what my factory tires look like @ 19K; I think I can get another 7-10k from them easy..

chrischhorn 03-07-2013 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayl (Post 2201397)
its a 4.00 difference between the tires so the cost is not an issue..

just want to make the best choice for my needs ..

To give an idea of how i drive heres what my factory tires look like @ 19K; I think I can get another 7-10k from them easy..


all the information is here. Your turn to make a choice :tiphat:

jayl 03-07-2013 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrischhorn (Post 2201561)
all the information is here. Your turn to make a choice :tiphat:

Thanks everyone for your input.. just seems the A/S might endup being a better tire for my erratic driving :rofl2:

order placed!

unfortunately Costco doesnt have them in stock so seems the Z will be in the garage a few more days..

jayl 03-13-2013 01:54 PM

Yay!
 
Tires installed now back to :driving: and :happydance:


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