Sports package Potenza tires...
 

So since we can't rotate the tires how many miles you guys think these tires will hold up for, assuming proper inflation.

You can rotate side to side but not front to back... and length of life will really depend on how you drive and your alignment settings.

I have 6k on mine and TONS of tread left and that is with a track day! I also drive really aggressive on the street with late braking and proper race lines through certain turns in my area.

:iagree: I also have 6000 miles and I'm not as aggressive driver as you. Almost brand new thread still.

These tires are directional
 

Remember that these tires are directional. The only way that you can rotate from side to side is to dismount the tires and remount them on the other side. In this manner they are able to stay pointed in the correct direction.

On the subject of the OP, about 20K is all.
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uh, yeah ... i know :happydance:

No, they are not. Go out and look at them - you wont find the rotation direction indicator on them.

There are no directional arrows, but they are labled "outside" on the tires.

So can it be rotate side to side without dismounting the tires or not?

Yes, you can.

I was looking at my tires today and I don't think I will get any more than 12k out of them. So far I am liking the Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec for replacements.

Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec

I had those on my old car and they are great tires. Problem is for the Z they don't come in 19" sizes.

Was just about to post that heh. Yeah, those are right on top of my list if they make them in 19's eventually.

is it just me or are the stock potenzas really loud?

Not just you.