18"x10" and 18"x10.5" Track Wheels Options?

scruffydog

I didn't realize that it's that difficult once I go down from 19" to 18" for some track wheels. Currently I am interested in upping my width from 19"x9" and 19"x10" from my Sport Rays to 10" and 10.5" in width.

Currently I run 265/285 and someday like to have the possibility to run 285 all around. Unfortunately, my options are super limited when it came to styles.

Volks TE37 (SL) are wayyy out of my price range. I'm open to see what you guys can help me with. Also interested to know what Offsets I should go with, currently run -2.9 Camber Front/-1.8 camber Rear.

I'm looking to spend ~$1500 and hopefully the wheel weight isn't heavy either. < 20-21 lb would be ideal. So ideally I would like something that's Forged or similar fab techniques to cut the weight down.

Recap to why I want new wheels:
1) Run 18" wheels so I have better wheels selection
2) Lighter
3) To run Wider tires


The styles I like are:
Enkei Raijin - Largest width for 18"x9.5"


TSW Nurburgring - They only have 9.5" or 10.5", I wonder if 10.5" will fit in front.


BBS CH-R - I love too, but don't come in 18" Diameter, I'm sure it's expensive too


Enkei PF01 - I'm so-so with the style and seems like everyone has them

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chrischhorn

Whats your budget? I got my set of WEDS SportsTC105-N's for around 2k. I'm running 18X9.5 +35, 18x10.5+12 on the rear. Are you specifically wanting to stay sqaure? The 10.5 rear won't fit on the front without fender rolling or excessive camber. The 18x9.5 +35 clears the akebono's no problem but I'm running a 15mm spacer on front just to make it flush. Not to mention some of the lightest you can get in this size. Front's weigh 17.6lbs each. Rears weigh18.4lbs each.

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scruffydog

Wow thanks for the option. I am def more incline with the weight of these over the other ones I've been seeing! Of course ideally I would prefer to spend only $1500 for the set, but $2000 is probably like my max, I also need to save up longer for them. My current set of RE-11's are pretty much shot.

As for square setup, I could go without, but it's nice to know I have the option to go with all 285 even if I stagger the wheels to be 18x10 & 18x10.5 vs. 18x9.5 & 18x10.5. I don't know if a 285 would be good for a 9.5" (Although I know someone who have fitted a 285 for a 9" wheel)

I'll keep looking but 17-18 lbs for a 10 width rim, that's really really awesome. People pay $4K+ for volks TE 37s and don't even get that much weight savings.

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martin82

Here you go: Enkei nt03. 18x10.5+30, and I use a 15-20mm spacer in the rear. I am running 285/35/18 Hankook Rs3. I will have pictures this weekend, mounting wheels/tires this sunday and tracking on Sunday!!

Mike

I do run 18s, but I don't really think its ideal, as tire size is very limited in race compounds. If you are lowered and run a 275/35-18, you may bottom out under braking. I did and wore the edge of the bottom of my bumper and undertray. Now I'm running 295/40-18 Hoosiers, which look like tank tires, but work and in NT01s, 275/40-18, but Nitto and R888s are the only ones that come in that size.

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scruffydog

So you were able to fit 18x10.5 in front? that's crazy awesome! haha

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martin82

Tires will be mounted tomorrow.. I'll show u no problem!

scruffydog

Thanks for sharing. I currently track my car with it set up at a ride height as high as possibly on my KW V3 due to me needing to drive it on street as well as allowing travel for track bumps, (i.e. Corkscrew at Laguna Seca) I wonder if 35 aspect ratio would be an issue over 40.

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scruffydog

Martin, so you have no issues tracking with rear spacers? How come you didn't just get the right offset for the rear wheels? Did you do spacers because you want to rotate your tires?

Also, how much does spacers weight? I wonder what the trade offs are considering it does add width so your stance wider but then you're battling with more rotating mass even if you didn't face any issues tracking with spacers.

I ask because I'm not knowledgable. I just though spacers were primarily used for the flush look.

Thanks for sharing btw.

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martin82

I like to run square wheels and tires... one because kills a lot of understeer up front, two because I can rotate while at the track... not killing my tires. Anyone that knows me, I can kill my brand new Rs3 in 1 day and chunk them out.

Nt03 do not come in +15, so I need to run +30 to clear front brakes and right offset to run 285's. Running a rear spacer is fine, the one I have is a bolt on so I will be later replacing it with a regular spacer and add extended ARP studs. Just no time to do it at the moment. I don't worry much about weight of spacers, Ideally yes u want wheels with no spacers but for me square wheels and tires is more important.

scruffydog

Thanks again for the knowledge. Man, I really wanna try RS-3 w/ 18" over my 19" with RE-11. I hear them being grippier. Currently I still have 245 and 285 rears and gets a lot of understeer. Maybe I should invest in a set of 18's.

Have you had any issues with 285/35 (instead of 285/45) bottoming out under hard braking like Mike?
Also, do u need to roll your front fender for 10.5" width with 285 in front?

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Mike

I've got over 15000 track miles on my car with spacers, they are fine.

If your car is not lowered then a 35 will be perfectly fine.

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chrischhorn

FYI, the bridgestone RE-11's max width for 18's is 275/40. Even though my wheels are staggered, I am actually going to still run a square 275/40 with the RE-11. Hopefully RE-11a's come out in that size. The effect wont be as good as a true square setup but i work in a tire shop so i can dismount and remount to technically rotate em.

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clintfocus

i run 18x10.5 sqaure also. 285/35/18 sqaure

Enkei PF01, et38 front with a 10mm spacer so et28 effective(to clear the inside suspension arm, et30 is the limit for 18x10.5=enkei NT03 like martin LOL), and et15 rear

-3 front camber, -2 rear. KW V3s. no rubbing what so ever on track

Mike

yeah, and the min width for the hoosier 295/40s is 10, but I run them on 9.5s just fine.

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