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puckman77 12-02-2009 09:26 AM

Tire noise from the cold weather
 
:confused:Anybody notice a stuttering or grinding feeling when turning the car slowly at either the full right or left position?

DIGItonium 12-02-2009 09:35 AM

I get it as well, but initially as if it's TCS test kicking in.

I'll back out of the parking lot, turn the steering wheel, apply gas, and hear and feel the racketing noise from the front wheels.

TheWeatherman 12-02-2009 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by DIGItonium (Post 303801)
I get it as well, but initially as if it's TCS test kicking in.

I'll back out of the parking lot, turn the steering wheel, apply gas, and hear and feel the racketing noise from the front wheels.

I actually think with the wide contact patch in front, camber and toe angles, combined with "biting" tires, this should be expected. Mine does it too without electronannies having anything to do with it. I usually notice it more when one tires have two different surface types under them. Watch when you have a little dusting of snow... Then you really notice it. My judgement= completely normal.

Forrest 12-02-2009 10:28 AM

i have just noticed this, one week ago. Its a very hard right turn while moving slowly.

My theory was, the tires turn so far to the right that the car is literarly pushing forward and the tire on the front are probably sideways so it makes a rubber skipping on the pavement. Hope that made sense

370Zsteve 12-02-2009 10:34 AM

You should never turn the steering to full lock (where you should hear a noise). Unless you enjoy replacing your power steering pump components frequently.

Modshack 12-02-2009 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TheWeatherman (Post 303833)
I actually think with the wide contact patch in front, camber and toe angles, combined with "biting" tires, this should be expected. Mine does it too without electronannies having anything to do with it. I usually notice it more when one tires have two different surface types under them. Watch when you have a little dusting of snow... Then you really notice it. My judgement= completely normal.

Exactly correct........:iagree:

TheWeatherman 12-02-2009 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 303882)
Exactly correct........:iagree:

Yay! I've been supported by THE Modshack!

kannibul 12-02-2009 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 303861)
You should never turn the steering to full lock (where you should hear a noise). Unless you enjoy replacing your power steering pump components frequently.

I've never heard of that?

gorpie 12-02-2009 02:15 PM

I also have this tire scrubbing. It happens in both directions if you are turning tight going slow. Sounds like the front tires are scrubbing a little bit on the pavement. It kind of reminds me when you have your truck in 4WD and turn tight on drive pavement and you here that tire scrubbing. I have been meaning to go to the dealership and ask about this but haven't had time. Makes me fell a little better knowing I am not the only one having this problem. Is this normal for the Z with 19" tires?

Modshack 12-02-2009 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by gorpie (Post 304247)
Makes me fell a little better knowing I am not the only one having this problem. Is this normal for the Z with 19" tires?

It's not a problem...It is perfectly normal. You should hear the Corvette guys whine about this as it is worse on that car.

Pharmacist 12-02-2009 05:38 PM

i too get tire scrubbing at tight turns, but i always thought that was from the rear wheels because of the lsd?

m4a1mustang 12-02-2009 05:42 PM

There needs to be a TSB for this.




j/k. :)

Perfectly normal. Happens a lot when I park at work.

TheWeatherman 12-02-2009 06:49 PM

BTW, my brother's Jeep SRT8 and parent's Supercharged Rovers do the same thing with their wide tires. My last FX35 did the same once I wore off some of the tread. I'm sure my new one will too. A little more grip, a little more scrub. Awesome!

m4a1Mustang, that's an awful color you picked. I wouldn't buy that in a second! Oh wait! JK...

m4a1mustang 12-02-2009 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TheWeatherman (Post 304667)
BTW, my brother's Jeep SRT8 and parent's Supercharged Rovers do the same thing with their wide tires. My last FX35 did the same once I wore off some of the tread. I'm sure my new one will too. A little more grip, a little more scrub. Awesome!

m4a1Mustang, that's an awful color you picked. I wouldn't buy that in a second! Oh wait! JK...

Oh blow off! You Solid Red bastards really get on my nerves! :tiphat:

speedworks 12-02-2009 08:02 PM

It is definately just the tires, and should only feel it in the cold temperatures. I have recently had it come back, now that it is starting to get cold up here. Essentially the tire tread rubber gets stiff in the cold weather, less flexible and scraps, giving you that feeling. Not a real problem, and may happen in warmer temperatures, but the rubber is probably more flexible and it doesn't scrap making the noise/feeling. Now, in my opinion it is a poor design (being a former tire designer), and shouldn't be on the car - they obviously didn't do much winter testing. I won't complain, not worth the hassle, since it only happens when the temperatures are low, and the tire is cold. It doesn dissappoint me every morning as I leave my driveway and have the issue occur. Just means I look forward to my first set of replacement tires.


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