Tire noise from the cold weather

puckman77 · 12-02-2009, 10:26 AM

Anybody notice a stuttering or grinding feeling when turning the car slowly at either the full right or left position?

DIGItonium · 12-02-2009, 10:35 AM

I get it as well, but initially as if it's TCS test kicking in.

I'll back out of the parking lot, turn the steering wheel, apply gas, and hear and feel the racketing noise from the front wheels.

TheWeatherman · 12-02-2009, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by DIGItonium

I get it as well, but initially as if it's TCS test kicking in.

I'll back out of the parking lot, turn the steering wheel, apply gas, and hear and feel the racketing noise from the front wheels.

I actually think with the wide contact patch in front, camber and toe angles, combined with "biting" tires, this should be expected. Mine does it too without electronannies having anything to do with it. I usually notice it more when one tires have two different surface types under them. Watch when you have a little dusting of snow... Then you really notice it. My judgement= completely normal.

Forrest · 12-02-2009, 11:28 AM

i have just noticed this, one week ago. Its a very hard right turn while moving slowly.

My theory was, the tires turn so far to the right that the car is literarly pushing forward and the tire on the front are probably sideways so it makes a rubber skipping on the pavement. Hope that made sense

370Zsteve · 12-02-2009, 11:34 AM

You should never turn the steering to full lock (where you should hear a noise). Unless you enjoy replacing your power steering pump components frequently.

Modshack · 12-02-2009, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TheWeatherman

I actually think with the wide contact patch in front, camber and toe angles, combined with "biting" tires, this should be expected. Mine does it too without electronannies having anything to do with it. I usually notice it more when one tires have two different surface types under them. Watch when you have a little dusting of snow... Then you really notice it. My judgement= completely normal.

Exactly correct........

TheWeatherman · 12-02-2009, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack

Exactly correct........

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kannibul · 12-02-2009, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

You should never turn the steering to full lock (where you should hear a noise). Unless you enjoy replacing your power steering pump components frequently.

I've never heard of that?

gorpie · 12-02-2009, 03:15 PM

I also have this tire scrubbing. It happens in both directions if you are turning tight going slow. Sounds like the front tires are scrubbing a little bit on the pavement. It kind of reminds me when you have your truck in 4WD and turn tight on drive pavement and you here that tire scrubbing. I have been meaning to go to the dealership and ask about this but haven't had time. Makes me fell a little better knowing I am not the only one having this problem. Is this normal for the Z with 19" tires?

Modshack · 12-02-2009, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by gorpie

Makes me fell a little better knowing I am not the only one having this problem. Is this normal for the Z with 19" tires?

It's not a problem...It is perfectly normal. You should hear the Corvette guys whine about this as it is worse on that car.

Pharmacist · 12-02-2009, 06:38 PM

i too get tire scrubbing at tight turns, but i always thought that was from the rear wheels because of the lsd?

m4a1mustang · 12-02-2009, 06:42 PM

There needs to be a TSB for this.

j/k.

Perfectly normal. Happens a lot when I park at work.

TheWeatherman · 12-02-2009, 07:49 PM

BTW, my brother's Jeep SRT8 and parent's Supercharged Rovers do the same thing with their wide tires. My last FX35 did the same once I wore off some of the tread. I'm sure my new one will too. A little more grip, a little more scrub. Awesome!

m4a1Mustang, that's an awful color you picked. I wouldn't buy that in a second! Oh wait! JK...

m4a1mustang · 12-02-2009, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TheWeatherman

BTW, my brother's Jeep SRT8 and parent's Supercharged Rovers do the same thing with their wide tires. My last FX35 did the same once I wore off some of the tread. I'm sure my new one will too. A little more grip, a little more scrub. Awesome!

m4a1Mustang, that's an awful color you picked. I wouldn't buy that in a second! Oh wait! JK...

Oh blow off! You Solid Red bastards really get on my nerves!

speedworks · 12-02-2009, 09:02 PM

It is definately just the tires, and should only feel it in the cold temperatures. I have recently had it come back, now that it is starting to get cold up here. Essentially the tire tread rubber gets stiff in the cold weather, less flexible and scraps, giving you that feeling. Not a real problem, and may happen in warmer temperatures, but the rubber is probably more flexible and it doesn't scrap making the noise/feeling. Now, in my opinion it is a poor design (being a former tire designer), and shouldn't be on the car - they obviously didn't do much winter testing. I won't complain, not worth the hassle, since it only happens when the temperatures are low, and the tire is cold. It doesn dissappoint me every morning as I leave my driveway and have the issue occur. Just means I look forward to my first set of replacement tires.

12-02-2009, 10:26 AM	#1 (permalink)
puckman77 Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Connecticut Posts: 22 Drives: 09 Z Blue AT T/S/NAV Rep Power: 16	Tire noise from the cold weather Anybody notice a stuttering or grinding feeling when turning the car slowly at either the full right or left position?

12-02-2009, 10:35 AM	#2 (permalink)
DIGItonium A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Kansas Posts: 3,800 Drives: 09 Z34-TT 6MT Rep Power: 42	I get it as well, but initially as if it's TCS test kicking in. I'll back out of the parking lot, turn the steering wheel, apply gas, and hear and feel the racketing noise from the front wheels. __________________

12-02-2009, 11:28 AM	#4 (permalink)
Forrest Track Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: california 707! Posts: 677 Drives: 09 370z Blk 6mt sprt Rep Power: 258	i have just noticed this, one week ago. Its a very hard right turn while moving slowly. My theory was, the tires turn so far to the right that the car is literarly pushing forward and the tire on the front are probably sideways so it makes a rubber skipping on the pavement. Hope that made sense __________________ my pictures http://www.the370z.com/members/forrest-albums-370z.html

12-02-2009, 11:34 AM	#5 (permalink)
370Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Gold Coast CT Posts: 10,599 Drives: 2019 Corvette G.S. Rep Power: 43	You should never turn the steering to full lock (where you should hear a noise). Unless you enjoy replacing your power steering pump components frequently. __________________ SOLD MY Z MARCH 2018 - another Core OG moves on - new ride 2019 Z Corvette Grand Sport - no mods necessary but already have eyes on HFC and intakes LOL IT NEVER ENDS.

12-02-2009, 06:42 PM	#12 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	There needs to be a TSB for this. j/k. Perfectly normal. Happens a lot when I park at work. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

12-02-2009, 03:15 PM	#9 (permalink)
gorpie Base Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 16 Drives: 09 370z 6MT Loaded Rep Power: 16	I also have this tire scrubbing. It happens in both directions if you are turning tight going slow. Sounds like the front tires are scrubbing a little bit on the pavement. It kind of reminds me when you have your truck in 4WD and turn tight on drive pavement and you here that tire scrubbing. I have been meaning to go to the dealership and ask about this but haven't had time. Makes me fell a little better knowing I am not the only one having this problem. Is this normal for the Z with 19" tires?

12-02-2009, 06:38 PM	#11 (permalink)
Pharmacist A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 1,249 Drives: 09 370z Sport 6MT Rep Power: 18	i too get tire scrubbing at tight turns, but i always thought that was from the rear wheels because of the lsd?

12-02-2009, 07:49 PM	#13 (permalink)
TheWeatherman Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 265 Drives: 2009 370Z 6MTw/Sport Rep Power: 16	BTW, my brother's Jeep SRT8 and parent's Supercharged Rovers do the same thing with their wide tires. My last FX35 did the same once I wore off some of the tread. I'm sure my new one will too. A little more grip, a little more scrub. Awesome! m4a1Mustang, that's an awful color you picked. I wouldn't buy that in a second! Oh wait! JK... Last edited by TheWeatherman; 12-02-2009 at 07:51 PM. Reason: For M4A1Mustang...

12-02-2009, 09:02 PM	#15 (permalink)
speedworks Track Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 550 Drives: PW purchased 01/09 Rep Power: 17	It is definately just the tires, and should only feel it in the cold temperatures. I have recently had it come back, now that it is starting to get cold up here. Essentially the tire tread rubber gets stiff in the cold weather, less flexible and scraps, giving you that feeling. Not a real problem, and may happen in warmer temperatures, but the rubber is probably more flexible and it doesn't scrap making the noise/feeling. Now, in my opinion it is a poor design (being a former tire designer), and shouldn't be on the car - they obviously didn't do much winter testing. I won't complain, not worth the hassle, since it only happens when the temperatures are low, and the tire is cold. It doesn dissappoint me every morning as I leave my driveway and have the issue occur. Just means I look forward to my first set of replacement tires.

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