TPMS Recalibration issue

PaulZ370 · 01-05-2013, 08:23 AM

Ok, I searched, but could not find anything - actually a Kazillion TPMS posts but none with this specific issue:

I recently purchased a set of OEM wheels (19" Rays) with OEM tires (Bridgestone Potenzas) from one of the Forum Members. They are in mint condition with hardly any tread wear at all - I was told he had 3500 miles on them, and they look it. Real nice, clean, no issues... except once I put them on my Z and took it to the Dealer to Calibrate the TPMS, the handheld computer they were using to recalibrate them kept coming back with "Incorrect TPMS". The original owner's Z is a 2012 6MT Coupe, and mine is a 2011 6MT Coupe. The dealer is going to look into it some more and get back with me, but in the meantime, thought I'd check with the GURU's on the site. I also e-mailed the original owner to see if any work had been done to the TPMS - which I doubt - the wheels and Tires look untouched, but asked just to cover all bases.

I can understand maybe one sensor failing or such, but all four being the "Incorrect TPMS" is kinda strange. I am thinking it's a procedural error on the Dealer's part - not doing something correct with the handheld computer they were using. But...

Anyone with any ideas?

DEpointfive0 · 01-05-2013, 08:26 AM

You need the correct TPMS sensors...

Did you put YOUR TPMS sensors on it?

PaulZ370 · 01-05-2013, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

You need the correct TPMS sensors...

Did you put YOUR TPMS sensors on it?

No. I put the Stock Wheels as they are from the other Z on my Z. Why would they be the "wrong" TPMS sensors if they are stock (Nissan) TPMS sensors on Stock Z wheels?

DEpointfive0 · 01-05-2013, 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulZ370

No. I put the Stock Wheels as they are from the other Z on my Z. Why would they be the "wrong" TPMS sensors if they are stock (Nissan) TPMS sensors on Stock Z wheels?

They make different models and aren't interchangeable year to year, or 6 months to 6 months... Either because they are bastards and want to make more money somehow or they're just bastards

Put YOUR TPMS sensors on and you should be good to go

PaulZ370 · 01-05-2013, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

They make different models and aren't interchangeable year to year, or 6 months to 6 months... Either because they are bastards and want to make more money somehow or they're just bastards

Put YOUR TPMS sensors on and you should be good to go

Nice... so what your saying is, I have to break the tires off the rim, change out the TPMS sensors, then remount the tires on the wheels... (which also means I'd have to re-balance... I know, I know, I don't have to, but I am very a n a l, but not to change the subject...). I mean, WTF...

..oh by the way, I'd have to break the tires off the rim on TWO sets of tires, mine, and the new ones to be able to swap TPMS sensors... WTF-Squared!

DEpointfive0 · 01-05-2013, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulZ370

Nice... so what your saying is, I have to break the tires off the rim, change out the TPMS sensors, then remount the tires on the wheels... (which also means I'd have to re-balance... I know, I know, I don't have to, but I am very a n a l, but not to change the subject...). I mean, WTF...

Yes... Sorry

You don't actually have to take the tires OFF all the way, just unmount it a bit... Then you can get to the TPMS sensors...

If you don't f with the tire much, you may be able to get away without a rebalance...

If you're going through that trouble... Get the TPMS rebuild kit, new battery, valve stem and O-ring I think

Make sure they don't take you to the cleaners on that... Dealer price is like $15, COSTCO CHARGES $4/EACH

DEpointfive0 · 01-05-2013, 09:56 AM

And if we believe it will work across years...
Go to Costco or something and see if they can reprogram them for free

redline727 · 01-05-2013, 06:11 PM

I'm about to do the same thing. I have an 09 and looking to get a set of the new rays sport wheels on 2013's from a forum member wondering if ill have same issue. I hope not or ill have to get real used to seeing that light bc I'm not going to go through the trouble of breaking down 2 sets of wheels to put my sensors in haha.

PaulZ370 · 01-06-2013, 08:28 AM

After reading all the responses from the forum members and doing some research this morning, I came up with the following:

It appears that the sensors are different between Model years, but the exact break is a little ambiguous. CourtesyParts.com references two different wheel sets between model month/years 2009-Sep 2010, and another after Sept 2010, but lists TPMS for only the 2009+ model. So, I researched some more and came across CARID.com which lists two different TPMS sensors for the 370Z as follows:

2011-2012: Brand: ORO-TEK Part Number: OPA-LA0A
2009: Brand: ORO-TEK Part Number: OTI-003

Since the part numbers are different for different model years, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say this pertaining to my situation:
It seems the dealer I went to has the programming required for the previous TPM Sensors, but not the later TPM sensors, hence, the reason his handheld computer could not read the later 2012 TPM sensor codes. IF that is the case, and I strongly believe it is, then all that is required for us to do when swapping wheels with TPMS already mounted in them, is to ensure that the dealer/shop has the correct programming when we need to recalibrate/reprogram/pair up the new sensors to the vehicle.

I'll be talking to the Dealer again on Monday to see about all this - it may be as simple as him updating the program on his handheld computer. I'll keep everyone posted further as I get additional info.

DEpointfive0 · 01-06-2013, 08:31 AM

^

Thank you, thank you (taking a bow)

I told you there WAS in fact a difference... Sorry again brother, but you'll have to use your old TPMS sensors

PaulZ370 · 01-06-2013, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

^

Thank you, thank you (taking a bow)

I told you there WAS in fact a difference... Sorry again brother, but you'll have to use your old TPMS sensors

negative - I need to find a dealer with the later program on his handheld so he can read the codes and pair them up to my Z. if you recall, both wheel sets have the later TPM Sensors. I would hazard a good guess that this can also be done for wheels from previous model years to later and vice versa - all that is needed is the correct program to read the sensor...

DEpointfive0 · 01-06-2013, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulZ370

negative - I need to find a dealer with the later program on his handheld so he can read the codes and pair them up to my Z. if you recall, both wheel sets have the later TPM Sensors. I would hazard a good guess that this can also be done for wheels from previous model years to later and vice versa - all that is needed is the correct program to read the sensor...

Lol, I didn't pay attention to the years you mentioned. And I thought they were at least 2 revisions in

I know for 2013 models Nissan has that new beeping thing when the tires are at the right PSI, so I'd assume another revision that probably is more high tech and probably can't be recognized by the car

PaulZ370 · 01-06-2013, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

Lol, I didn't pay attention to the years you mentioned. And I thought they were at least 2 revisions in

I know for 2013 models Nissan has that new beeping thing when the tires are at the right PSI, so I'd assume another revision that probably is more high tech and probably can't be recognized by the car

Nope - again DE, you're missing the point. The Sensor emits a Ultra High Frequency (UHF) that needs to be read by the handheld computer. If the program on the handheld does not have the correct protocol to talk to the sensor to read its UHF, then it will come up with the "Incorrect Sensor" error, and the pairing cannot be done. It is not that my Z is not accepting the sensors - we never even got to that part at all - it is the dealer's handheld that is not able to communicate with the sensors to download the UHF codes because it does not have the latest version software (I believe).

Baer383 · 01-06-2013, 11:23 AM

I did this on my 2010 and worked great my sensors were brand new from Nissan not programmed by them at all.

Reset TPMS Warning By Yourself For FREE!!!

DEpointfive0 · 01-06-2013, 11:39 AM

Welllllllll... Keep us posted, I'm just going off the info I know to be true. And only ASSuming about the '13 part

01-05-2013, 08:23 AM	#1 (permalink)
PaulZ370 Track Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Covington, LA Posts: 956 Drives: 011 370 BSM/T/SP/6MT Rep Power: 16	TPMS Recalibration issue Ok, I searched, but could not find anything - actually a Kazillion TPMS posts but none with this specific issue: I recently purchased a set of OEM wheels (19" Rays) with OEM tires (Bridgestone Potenzas) from one of the Forum Members. They are in mint condition with hardly any tread wear at all - I was told he had 3500 miles on them, and they look it. Real nice, clean, no issues... except once I put them on my Z and took it to the Dealer to Calibrate the TPMS, the handheld computer they were using to recalibrate them kept coming back with "Incorrect TPMS". The original owner's Z is a 2012 6MT Coupe, and mine is a 2011 6MT Coupe. The dealer is going to look into it some more and get back with me, but in the meantime, thought I'd check with the GURU's on the site. I also e-mailed the original owner to see if any work had been done to the TPMS - which I doubt - the wheels and Tires look untouched, but asked just to cover all bases. I can understand maybe one sensor failing or such, but all four being the "Incorrect TPMS" is kinda strange. I am thinking it's a procedural error on the Dealer's part - not doing something correct with the handheld computer they were using. But... Anyone with any ideas? __________________ *BD2ZBN :: 2011 BSM/TRG/SP/6MT/Stillen Oil Cooler/K&N CAI/Michelin PSS/Brake Light/EIBACH Sway Bars/FI Res. HFC+18" Res. CBE/Morimoto XB LED/DRLs/10mm Spacers*

01-05-2013, 06:11 PM	#8 (permalink)
redline727 Base Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: RVA Posts: 203 Drives: '13 MUSTANG GT 6MT Rep Power: 14	I'm about to do the same thing. I have an 09 and looking to get a set of the new rays sport wheels on 2013's from a forum member wondering if ill have same issue. I hope not or ill have to get real used to seeing that light bc I'm not going to go through the trouble of breaking down 2 sets of wheels to put my sensors in haha. __________________ 2013 Ford Mustang GT 5.0 6MT ROUSH intake \| ROUSH axle back \| ROUSH shift knob \| ROUSH coil covers 2009 NISSAN 370Z SOLD

01-06-2013, 08:28 AM	#9 (permalink)
PaulZ370 Track Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Covington, LA Posts: 956 Drives: 011 370 BSM/T/SP/6MT Rep Power: 16	Bingo..? After reading all the responses from the forum members and doing some research this morning, I came up with the following: It appears that the sensors are different between Model years, but the exact break is a little ambiguous. CourtesyParts.com references two different wheel sets between model month/years 2009-Sep 2010, and another after Sept 2010, but lists TPMS for only the 2009+ model. So, I researched some more and came across CARID.com which lists two different TPMS sensors for the 370Z as follows: 2011-2012: Brand: ORO-TEK Part Number: OPA-LA0A 2009: Brand: ORO-TEK Part Number: OTI-003 Since the part numbers are different for different model years, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say this pertaining to my situation: It seems the dealer I went to has the programming required for the previous TPM Sensors, but not the later TPM sensors, hence, the reason his handheld computer could not read the later 2012 TPM sensor codes. IF that is the case, and I strongly believe it is, then all that is required for us to do when swapping wheels with TPMS already mounted in them, is to ensure that the dealer/shop has the correct programming when we need to recalibrate/reprogram/pair up the new sensors to the vehicle. I'll be talking to the Dealer again on Monday to see about all this - it may be as simple as him updating the program on his handheld computer. I'll keep everyone posted further as I get additional info. __________________ *BD2ZBN :: 2011 BSM/TRG/SP/6MT/Stillen Oil Cooler/K&N CAI/Michelin PSS/Brake Light/EIBACH Sway Bars/FI Res. HFC+18" Res. CBE/Morimoto XB LED/DRLs/10mm Spacers*

01-06-2013, 11:23 AM	#14 (permalink)
Baer383 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Lawrenceville,Ga Posts: 4,293 Drives: My foot up your azz Rep Power: 30	I did this on my 2010 and worked great my sensors were brand new from Nissan not programmed by them at all. Reset TPMS Warning By Yourself For FREE!!! __________________ 2013 ZL1 754 rwhp 747 rwtq

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01-05-2013, 08:26 AM	#2 (permalink)
DEpointfive0 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,824 Drives: a lot Rep Power: 17152	You need the correct TPMS sensors... Did you put YOUR TPMS sensors on it?

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DEpointfive0 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,824 Drives: a lot Rep Power: 17152	And if we believe it will work across years... Go to Costco or something and see if they can reprogram them for free

01-06-2013, 08:31 AM	#10 (permalink)
DEpointfive0 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,824 Drives: a lot Rep Power: 17152	^ Thank you, thank you (taking a bow) I told you there WAS in fact a difference... Sorry again brother, but you'll have to use your old TPMS sensors

01-06-2013, 11:39 AM	#15 (permalink)
DEpointfive0 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,824 Drives: a lot Rep Power: 17152	Welllllllll... Keep us posted, I'm just going off the info I know to be true. And only ASSuming about the '13 part