TPMS Recalibration issue

PaulZ370 · 01-05-2013, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gurneyeagle

I feel your pain Paul.

2012 TPMS should work on a 2011 Z. Nissan changed the sensor mid-2010, so when I got my Nismo rims off of a 2009 Z, the TPMS did not register. I had to purchase a set off the forum.

Good luck!

Good to know...

redline727 · 01-05-2013, 06:11 PM

I'm about to do the same thing. I have an 09 and looking to get a set of the new rays sport wheels on 2013's from a forum member wondering if ill have same issue. I hope not or ill have to get real used to seeing that light bc I'm not going to go through the trouble of breaking down 2 sets of wheels to put my sensors in haha.

PaulZ370 · 01-06-2013, 08:28 AM

After reading all the responses from the forum members and doing some research this morning, I came up with the following:

It appears that the sensors are different between Model years, but the exact break is a little ambiguous. CourtesyParts.com references two different wheel sets between model month/years 2009-Sep 2010, and another after Sept 2010, but lists TPMS for only the 2009+ model. So, I researched some more and came across CARID.com which lists two different TPMS sensors for the 370Z as follows:

2011-2012: Brand: ORO-TEK Part Number: OPA-LA0A
2009: Brand: ORO-TEK Part Number: OTI-003

Since the part numbers are different for different model years, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say this pertaining to my situation:
It seems the dealer I went to has the programming required for the previous TPM Sensors, but not the later TPM sensors, hence, the reason his handheld computer could not read the later 2012 TPM sensor codes. IF that is the case, and I strongly believe it is, then all that is required for us to do when swapping wheels with TPMS already mounted in them, is to ensure that the dealer/shop has the correct programming when we need to recalibrate/reprogram/pair up the new sensors to the vehicle.

I'll be talking to the Dealer again on Monday to see about all this - it may be as simple as him updating the program on his handheld computer. I'll keep everyone posted further as I get additional info.

DEpointfive0 · 01-06-2013, 08:31 AM

^

Thank you, thank you (taking a bow)

I told you there WAS in fact a difference... Sorry again brother, but you'll have to use your old TPMS sensors

PaulZ370 · 01-06-2013, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

^

Thank you, thank you (taking a bow)

I told you there WAS in fact a difference... Sorry again brother, but you'll have to use your old TPMS sensors

negative - I need to find a dealer with the later program on his handheld so he can read the codes and pair them up to my Z. if you recall, both wheel sets have the later TPM Sensors. I would hazard a good guess that this can also be done for wheels from previous model years to later and vice versa - all that is needed is the correct program to read the sensor...

DEpointfive0 · 01-06-2013, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulZ370

negative - I need to find a dealer with the later program on his handheld so he can read the codes and pair them up to my Z. if you recall, both wheel sets have the later TPM Sensors. I would hazard a good guess that this can also be done for wheels from previous model years to later and vice versa - all that is needed is the correct program to read the sensor...

Lol, I didn't pay attention to the years you mentioned. And I thought they were at least 2 revisions in

I know for 2013 models Nissan has that new beeping thing when the tires are at the right PSI, so I'd assume another revision that probably is more high tech and probably can't be recognized by the car

PaulZ370 · 01-06-2013, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

Lol, I didn't pay attention to the years you mentioned. And I thought they were at least 2 revisions in

I know for 2013 models Nissan has that new beeping thing when the tires are at the right PSI, so I'd assume another revision that probably is more high tech and probably can't be recognized by the car

Nope - again DE, you're missing the point. The Sensor emits a Ultra High Frequency (UHF) that needs to be read by the handheld computer. If the program on the handheld does not have the correct protocol to talk to the sensor to read its UHF, then it will come up with the "Incorrect Sensor" error, and the pairing cannot be done. It is not that my Z is not accepting the sensors - we never even got to that part at all - it is the dealer's handheld that is not able to communicate with the sensors to download the UHF codes because it does not have the latest version software (I believe).

Baer383 · 01-06-2013, 11:23 AM

I did this on my 2010 and worked great my sensors were brand new from Nissan not programmed by them at all.

Reset TPMS Warning By Yourself For FREE!!!

DEpointfive0 · 01-06-2013, 11:39 AM

Welllllllll... Keep us posted, I'm just going off the info I know to be true. And only ASSuming about the '13 part

chrischhorn · 01-06-2013, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

Welllllllll... Keep us posted, I'm just going off the info I know to be true. And only ASSuming about the '13 part

DE, I think its actually only the sensor on the vehicle itself that has changed to allow it for the beep and the warning. We had a 2013 come in for a flat-repair and the sensor looked the same as my sensors. (used the same tpms rebuild kit.) But like he said, drop by Costco and see if they can reset for you. Our handheld scanners at Costco read the 2013 sensors just fine. As our scanners, it shows information as 2009+ 370z. There is no seperate option for the 2 different sensor years as is. If not, the error is in the sensor not the car itself. Probably a dead battery. They only last 3-5 years. New sensors in the new cars are claimed to only lasting 1-3 years since the car companies arent making enough on them.

PaulZ370 · 01-06-2013, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by chrischhorn

If not, the error is in the sensor not the car itself. Probably a dead battery. They only last 3-5 years. New sensors in the new cars are claimed to only lasting 1-3 years since the car companies arent making enough on them.

The Wheels just came off a 2012, and all four batteries can't be dead at the same time. The odds are pretty astronomical.

Redglare · 01-06-2013, 05:25 PM

Had the same issue, the dealer calibration tool can pick up the "ID'S" of the new tpms sensors and then upload said id's into your ecu so your car can register them, not sure why your dealership is having trouble with this.

batteries are good for 7-15 years (depending on climate etc etc)

chrischhorn · 01-06-2013, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redglare

Had the same issue, the dealer calibration tool can pick up the "ID'S" of the new tpms sensors and then upload said id's into your ecu so your car can register them, not sure why your dealership is having trouble with this.

batteries are good for 7-15 years (depending on climate etc etc)

off a'12 then yes not likely.
Redglare- we got an article for the tire shop that said car companies will be having the battieries fail sooner as they are not making any profit on the sensors themselves. The sensors battieries are not replaceable so thr whole sensor has to be replaced. Thats the reason we are now stocking up on multiple sensors for many makes and models at Costco. Call me a liar if you want and ill be glad to upload the article but we'll just see what happens.

DEpointfive0 · 01-06-2013, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrischhorn

off a'12 then yes not likely.
Redglare- we got an article for the tire shop that said car companies will be having the battieries fail sooner as they are not making any profit on the sensors themselves. The sensors battieries are not replaceable so thr whole sensor has to be replaced. Thats the reason we are now stocking up on multiple sensors for many makes and models at Costco. Call me a liar if you want and ill be glad to upload the article but we'll just see what happens.

He's not a liar

Redglare · 01-06-2013, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrischhorn

off a'12 then yes not likely.
Redglare- we got an article for the tire shop that said car companies will be having the battieries fail sooner as they are not making any profit on the sensors themselves. The sensors battieries are not replaceable so thr whole sensor has to be replaced. Thats the reason we are now stocking up on multiple sensors for many makes and models at Costco. Call me a liar if you want and ill be glad to upload the article but we'll just see what happens.

That's actually believable, I'd love to read the article though, it's ridiculous that they would make them last less...
That would be ridiculous if you had to replace sensors with every tire change.... I hope the car manufacturers will step in and develop in-house sensors that will last as long as they do right now.

I can see an aftermarket company developing sensors with longer lasting batteries.

01-05-2013, 06:11 PM	#17 (permalink)
redline727 Base Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: RVA Posts: 203 Drives: '13 MUSTANG GT 6MT Rep Power: 14	I'm about to do the same thing. I have an 09 and looking to get a set of the new rays sport wheels on 2013's from a forum member wondering if ill have same issue. I hope not or ill have to get real used to seeing that light bc I'm not going to go through the trouble of breaking down 2 sets of wheels to put my sensors in haha. __________________ 2013 Ford Mustang GT 5.0 6MT ROUSH intake \| ROUSH axle back \| ROUSH shift knob \| ROUSH coil covers 2009 NISSAN 370Z SOLD

01-06-2013, 08:28 AM	#18 (permalink)
PaulZ370 Track Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Covington, LA Posts: 956 Drives: 011 370 BSM/T/SP/6MT Rep Power: 16	Bingo..? After reading all the responses from the forum members and doing some research this morning, I came up with the following: It appears that the sensors are different between Model years, but the exact break is a little ambiguous. CourtesyParts.com references two different wheel sets between model month/years 2009-Sep 2010, and another after Sept 2010, but lists TPMS for only the 2009+ model. So, I researched some more and came across CARID.com which lists two different TPMS sensors for the 370Z as follows: 2011-2012: Brand: ORO-TEK Part Number: OPA-LA0A 2009: Brand: ORO-TEK Part Number: OTI-003 Since the part numbers are different for different model years, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say this pertaining to my situation: It seems the dealer I went to has the programming required for the previous TPM Sensors, but not the later TPM sensors, hence, the reason his handheld computer could not read the later 2012 TPM sensor codes. IF that is the case, and I strongly believe it is, then all that is required for us to do when swapping wheels with TPMS already mounted in them, is to ensure that the dealer/shop has the correct programming when we need to recalibrate/reprogram/pair up the new sensors to the vehicle. I'll be talking to the Dealer again on Monday to see about all this - it may be as simple as him updating the program on his handheld computer. I'll keep everyone posted further as I get additional info. __________________ *BD2ZBN :: 2011 BSM/TRG/SP/6MT/Stillen Oil Cooler/K&N CAI/Michelin PSS/Brake Light/EIBACH Sway Bars/FI Res. HFC+18" Res. CBE/Morimoto XB LED/DRLs/10mm Spacers*

01-06-2013, 11:23 AM	#23 (permalink)
Baer383 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Lawrenceville,Ga Posts: 4,293 Drives: My foot up your azz Rep Power: 30	I did this on my 2010 and worked great my sensors were brand new from Nissan not programmed by them at all. Reset TPMS Warning By Yourself For FREE!!! __________________ 2013 ZL1 754 rwhp 747 rwtq

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Redglare Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: FL Posts: 387 Drives: C172 Skyhawk GIII Rep Power: 175	Had the same issue, the dealer calibration tool can pick up the "ID'S" of the new tpms sensors and then upload said id's into your ecu so your car can register them, not sure why your dealership is having trouble with this. batteries are good for 7-15 years (depending on climate etc etc)